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Author Topic: howling durring the day TrapperDan Knows what it's all about Member # 124 posted February 24, 2003 04:34 AM                   Is this something that you do or is it only done at nite . Posts: 15 | From: Mi. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Wiley E Knows what it's all about Member # 108 posted February 24, 2003 05:36 AM                    It's something that I do. ~SH~ Posts: 853 | From: Kadoka, S.D | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted February 24, 2003 09:33 AM              It's something I do. It's something the coyotes here sometimes do. IP: Logged Silverfox PAKMAN Member # 118 posted February 24, 2003 12:38 PM                    I don't hunt at night. But I do use howling during my daytime hunting. I don't always expect to get a vocal response from any coyotes within earshot, especially in the middle of the day. Over the years that I have used howling I have had vocal responses at just about every daylight hour. Most of the vocal responses, however, come in early morning or the last couple of hours before dark. -------------------- Silverfox Posts: 9 | From: Williston, ND USA | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged UTcaller NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER Member # 8 posted February 24, 2003 01:59 PM                    It's definitely something I do. Posts: 1708 | From: Utah | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted February 24, 2003 02:14 PM                   It's something I've started doing. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Greenside seems to know what he is talking about Member # 10 posted February 24, 2003 07:35 PM                   I howl on most but not all of my daytime stands. I'm not real fond of howling in the late morning to early afternoon time frame. For mid-day hunting I prefer to walk in deeper and just use distress sounds. Seems to work better for me. Dennis Posts: 719 | From: IA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged TrapperDan Knows what it's all about Member # 124 posted February 25, 2003 05:50 AM                   Thanks for all the replies , I will try that too . I never even seen a yote yet while calling so I dont know if Im doin something wrong or if thet just not interested . Posts: 15 | From: Mi. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged 20t-n-t Knows what it's all about Member # 46 posted March 03, 2003 12:19 AM                    TrapperDan, I have to agree with Greenside for the mostpart, untill about this time of year when the breedin season hits then I work on the territorial aspect. they may not sound off but they will come to see who's in their rompin grounds. Of corse I like it better when i know that they are commin but if you get anyware inside of their core area they will come for sure so be at the ready. Smote the Yote slydog -------------------- Teach a kid to hunt and fish and feed them for a lifetime...... Posts: 245 | From: Boise Idaho USA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Az-Hunter Hi, I'm Vic WELCOME TO THE U.S. Free baloney sandwiches here Member # 17 posted March 03, 2003 04:31 PM                   It's something I seldom do. ~AzHunter~ ---------------------- "Most coyotes act the same" Posts: 1670 | From: 5 miles west of Tim | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted March 03, 2003 05:35 PM                       AZ, I nearly fell off my chair reading your "signature". You have one of those dry sense of humor. I hope I am not the only one that "gets" it? I could list a couple times when howling helped me in southern Arizona, but I don't do it a whole lot, either. When they are running good, it's hard to see where it could help, they are already eagar. But, I have seen the day when the coyotes turn spooky, for whatever reason. I know they are there, I can sometimes see a flash of color, but they are not showing; no matter what I try. On those infrequent occasions, I have had coyotes bust out of cover with howling. It's one more trick, and you certainly don't need many in that area, if you know where to go, right? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 03, 2003 05:47 PM                   Howlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss and a yep yep. Waits five min. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Did anything happen yet?....Anybody see a coyote yet?.... Man this ain't working,....I give up, Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Az-Hunter Hi, I'm Vic WELCOME TO THE U.S. Free baloney sandwiches here Member # 17 posted March 03, 2003 09:04 PM                   Absolutely correct Leonard, it can be a valuable tool, and obviously there are more than a few guys who use it as their "primary" calling tool, I don't. The familar old qualifier of " in your particular area" fits my situation I suppose? I have tremendous response to my use of distress sounds, and "most of the time", can't imagine what more I'd want from a stand. There are times I utilize howling, this time of year as a matter of fact, but for most of my season as it were, distress sounds are very effective. I'd like to tag along with one of the guys that uses only howling to call and kill coyotes, Im sure it's interesting as hell, two divergent methods, that are by some accounts equally productive? Id like to see that. Lots of tools out there for us to utilize, howling happens to be the one in vogue now,an old technique, but its time has come again.....we will see much about it on video soon Im sure. Posts: 1670 | From: 5 miles west of Tim | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged 20t-n-t Knows what it's all about Member # 46 posted March 03, 2003 09:22 PM                    Well said AZ-hunter and I'll bet you are right on the money about seeing more on howling, seems to be the trend. I to like that Broken Wabbit! Smote the Yote Slydog -------------------- Teach a kid to hunt and fish and feed them for a lifetime...... Posts: 245 | From: Boise Idaho USA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 03, 2003 10:38 PM                   I know howling works because I did it a couple times. But you are not going to tell me you can howl in more coyotes then I can call in. I think we may have to have a contest and if we do, you well lose. Good Hunting -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich 2,000th post PAKMAN Member # 112 posted March 04, 2003 09:27 AM                       A good howler is a special use tool, nothing more. Here in the mid-west we have a lot of spooky coyotes and coyote population is not as high as most people think. Here in my part of Iowa for instance, there is a public road every mile and a lot of people traffic. Most of the coyotes are wise to the normal "screaming rabbit" routine. The howler helps call some of those coyotes that would not come to normal calling routine. I don't use just howling though. I use a mixture of howls and prey distress. It helps me kill some coyotes that I would never see otherwise. I think that most of us know that there is no real substitute for area's with high coyote population and very few people to screw things up. Life goes on, and we don't give up. [ March 04, 2003, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: Rich ] -------------------- If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder. Posts: 2854 | From: Iowa | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Rich Higgins unknown comic posted March 04, 2003 09:52 AM              Danny, I accept. BTW, I agree with Rich's post. IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 04, 2003 10:03 AM                   Rich, I understand what you're saying. I bet if you came out here you'd knock em dead with the method you use. I forgot about areas and density, things like that happen when you get old ya know, Good Hunting. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged coyotebuster Knows what it's all about Member # 131 posted March 04, 2003 10:47 AM                   hey thats pretty cool. rich higgins made onecoyote back down! Posts: 21 | From: Rolling on the floor, laughing at PETA'S ignorance | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 04, 2003 01:26 PM                   He did not, I was just being nice, so there. -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged UTcaller NEVADA NIGHT FIGHTER Member # 8 posted March 04, 2003 01:48 PM                    Howling for coyotes is VERY effective year around,especially when mixed with regular distress calls.I guess the way I look at it is that if you use howling in combination with a rabbit call,you will call in all of those EAGER coyotes that would come in with just a plain ol'rabbit call anyway plus if you have those COYOTES that are a little reluctant to come in, they will be more likely to come in with added confidence because of the Howling.Kill two birds,I mean coyotes with one stone. GOOD HUNTING Chad....... Posts: 1708 | From: Utah | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted March 04, 2003 04:14 PM                       Maybe Danny should start a thread about special techniques for hunting areas with a coyote density of six per acre? Step one, find it. Maybe a valid question would be, if you had to use just one, would you use a howler or a rabbit call? I know, I know. Both, right? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32361 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged onecoyote Knows what it's all about Member # 129 posted March 04, 2003 07:14 PM                   I have no idea how many coyotes can live in any given area. I do know not to many can live in an acre? -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas.....Average minds discuss events.....Small minds discuss people.....Eleanor Roosevelt. Posts: 893 | From: Walker Lake Nevada. | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged Az-Hunter Hi, I'm Vic WELCOME TO THE U.S. Free baloney sandwiches here Member # 17 posted March 04, 2003 07:20 PM                   See Leonard; thats why Im skeptical on some of the arguements concerning howling. If done in conjunction with prey distress, how can one assume it was the addition of the howl, that turned the worm?when the howl might have been ignored, and the response was due primarily to the distress sound. Did the coyote come, in SPITE of the howling, or because of it? I propose, that I could play "home on the range" with my harmonica, prior to beginning my "continuous" series of cottontail distress, and I would call coyotes. Back when I used to use only mouth calls, I remember well the unfortunate moments when a coughing jag was the prelude to my distress calls, and sure as hell coyotes would come. Now, Im not so ignorant to suggest that howling is not a usefull tool, to many guys have used it successfully, as I have occasionally. I just don't think it's the silver bullet some wish it to be. The theory of using a howl and a bark or two, prior to using the rabbit distress sounds is a hard one to substantiate. You can rub a rabbits foot, toss a penny over your shoulder, or use a myriad of other "techniques", and coyotes will come in....but was it "because" of what you did before using the distress sound? Tough to know for sure, given the choice between a howler or my distress makers, gimme the distress every time. Posts: 1670 | From: 5 miles west of Tim | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged coyotebuster Knows what it's all about Member # 131 posted March 05, 2003 05:17 AM                   yeah okay onecoyte but it sure looked like you were backing down from your own chalenge. Posts: 21 | From: Rolling on the floor, laughing at PETA'S ignorance | Registered: Feb 2003  |  IP: Logged

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