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Topic: Did you have a Mentor?
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Krustyklimber
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posted February 17, 2003 09:04 PM
There's been some talk about how a guy learns this stuff.
Many things are best learned by word of mouth, and "hands on training". I think hunting is like this...
Very very little of my outdoor skills came to me through reading, most are skills I was taught in person... and there are none I hold to, that I know came from the internet.
I can't think of a single thing I've used on a stand that wasn't covered in Gerry Blair's book. The basics are just that, quite basic (still hard to master though).
What makes this so hard then?
If it's not rocket science, why does it take a rocket scientist to be good at it?
Nobody has "natural talent" for it do they? Where they walked on the first stand, killed a coyote, and have done so at will forever after that?
How many of you guys, who would be considered good at this, not experts, have never ever been in the field with a more experienced hunter?
How many with experience have never taken a hunter with less than you into the field?
I have hunted with my Dad less than ten times in the field, with about eight of them being duck hunting and a few chukkar hunts...
I have never been in the field as an adult with anyone who had more outdoor skills than myself... Red has different (valuable) skills than I do but not more.
Am I alone on this? Did any of you guys teach yourself to do this without ever having been taken out and "shown the ropes"?
If so, how long did it take to become proficient at it?
What kept you going until you were good at it?
For those of you who did have someone teach you, what was the #1 best piece of advice or wisdom bestowed upon you? And what was the biggest mistake you'd been making 'til they taught you better?
How long did you and that person hunt together, one day or much longer?
If anyone would like to shout out a thanks to those who have taught you this could be a good place for it too... my Grandfathers, one of whom is no longer with us, are the ones who taught me most of what I know about the woods.
Thanks Gramps and Pop! ![[Wink]](wink.gif) And Uncle Paul!
I am a Taurus, and stubborn as two days are long... so I aint gonna throw in the towel no matter how frustrated I am at not knowing what I am doing...
Ignorance has never stopped me before, it ain't gonna now!
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20t-n-t
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posted February 17, 2003 10:54 PM
Jeff,
You just put us all into shock with all them ??? in one, How to cover it all and be brief is the next ???
My thoughts on this matter are as follows: Very few learn only by themselves, meaning that every one learns from someone who has more skill in the field. I was lucky in that I had many good mentors, all taught me things that they knew and also, one thing to remember is that the student must be willing to listen and remember what the mentor is teaching.
My list of mentors: Howard J. Johnson and Doc Thomas Gipson, my two Grandfathers,Fred Barnes,Elmer Keith,John Eisenheart,Carl Trece, Wayne Carlton, Howard Speer, Gene Rhorick and Gabe Lucero. All of the men above spent time with me and taught me many things but ultimatly, Just like the makeing of a good horse takes many wet saddle blankets, the makeing of a good hunter takes lots of experiance. No one learns much from success but every one learns from failure.
I still learn from 1st time hunters because I'm looking to learn all the time and it does'nt have to be MY failures that I learn from or my successes. As long as your learning and not thinking you know it all you will gain the tools that will make you a better hunter/ outdoorsman.
I also thank the good Lord for giving me the desire to learn the hunt and the ability to exicute what I've learned.
Thats my 2 bits
Slydog
By the way that is a good question Jeff, It makes you think.
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posted February 18, 2003 08:19 AM
Krusty,
The best calling investment I ever made was the paid instructions I took from Bill Austin 20 years ago. Since that time I have been in circles where I continually exchange calling information with guys that are doing it for a living on a year round basis.
There is no greater incentive to learn to kill INDIVIDUAL STOCK KILLING COYOTES than when your job depends on it. If you screw up, you can't go somewhere else. You have to stay and try something new until the killing stops. You have no choice but to learn.
There is so much to this calling game that has absolutely nothing to do with the sounds you make.
Here's the short list:
1. Being properly equipped
2. Understanding various calling conditions and how it affects coyote behavior.
3. Knowing what the coyotes are doing in your areas, knowing when they are doing it, and knowing why they are doing it.
The best coyote callers out there are students of their behavior.
4. Locating coyotes prior to calling
5. Approaching the stand
6. Stand selection to best handle coyotes
7. The sounds to make - important but not as important as some of these other factors.
8. How to call and when to call
9. Spotting coyotes before they spot you
10. HANDLING COYOTES PROPERLY
11. Knowing when to hold them and when to fold them. In other words, when you need to go to them when they don't come to you.
12. UNDERSTANDING THAT FAILURE IS NOT ALWAYS YOUR FAULT.
Every one of these factors is important in reaching the highest degree of success.
~SH~
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posted February 18, 2003 10:18 AM
Krustyklimber-
My mentor was my grandfather that passed away last year. He started calling as a kid in central Texas. He took away my call and taught me to lip squeak and sent me out with a 243 that he had custom built. When I had called one in with just lip squeaking and variances thereof, he gave me a call and taught me some sequences and sounds to use with it. HE spent long hours teaching me set ups and what to look for.
I will always remember him and give him the credit for my love of varmint hunting, and the basics of coyote hunting.
Of late I have been inspired by some of the new and controversal concepts of Rich Higgins. I have been challlenged to try and use some of these in field when I can. One is leave the gun in the truck and just run the camera. Although I can't do this ever place I hunt as some of the ranchers need the population controlled.
later pup
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Leonard
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posted February 18, 2003 06:41 PM
Krusty, perhaps you are taking some of the statements to broadly? I take new guys hunting, but I don't have the time to do it as often as I'm asked. I don't take them to a place where I need to swear them to secrecy becuase it's too much of a burden. Instead, I take them where he will get a coyote, and basically, I'm giving up on the spot forever. It's just being realistic.
If I taught you how to play Hold'em, would I tell you how to beat me at my own game and take my money? Maybe if I were a fool? But, I'll give you enough information to get you started, and when you come up against a situation, you are goingto have an intelligent question and you will be ready for the answer. More so than me dictating the whole curriculum in one bite to someone that can't grasp all the answers dumped on them in a pile.
I'm sorry to hear that you have a health problem. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) I would have guessed that you were particularly fit, to be climbing rocks with bare hands, like Sly Stalone. I hope you recover soon.
Good hunting. LB
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Barry
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posted February 18, 2003 08:56 PM
Wow,A person sometimes forgets the ones that meant so much to him until someone asks him to remember.
My dad was in the merchant marines and worked for Exxon[no he wasn't on the Valdez]so he was gone for 7 months at a time.My grandfather,uncle and brother graciously gave me their time teaching me the general skills of woodsmanship.Walking softly,no movement,noiselessness[is that a word]and the wisdom that no kill doesn't mean a bad hunt.You know,the things we now take for granit.And the knowledge that good things come to those who wait,patience.[just dont wait too long]
Growing up in North Carolina was great,but moving here to Colorado in the early 80's was awsome.We didnt have coyotes there so I had no experience.The yodeldogs[dont ban me Leonard]were going for 65 or 75 on the hoof back then.We road hunted them for beer money.Being a gunsmithing student at Trinidad State we were well armed but not well funded.Those Starret machining instruments are expensive.My first mule deer was a 5/4 and I thought it was a beast,280 dead weight.Then I busted my first bull elk and I found out what packing out an animal meant.If you've ever killed one 4 miles from nowhere without horses you know what I mean,espically at treeline.
Then one day I got a call from a college buddy asking if I wanted to go to Pinion Canyon calling coyotes.It involved guns so what the heck.The first stand a coyote ran across my feet on the way to his rabbit distress and I 've been hooked ever since.If you ask me,this is the best kept secret in the hunting world today.
I guess I'd have to say I'm mostly self taught.Trial and error,I still dont know alot but keep going and trying diffrent things.I read alot here but applicitation is always another matter.With that said this forum has helped me I belie
ve.I've doubled my take this year from last.
Ive hunted with a couple of guys from this forum and its great to get a new prespective on how things are done.You also have to remember we all live in diffrent regions,the coyotes seem to react a little diffrent accordingly.
Wiley E makes alot of good points,stand selection influenced by wind direction and other varibles was my first problem I believe.Although they do show up behind me alot still.
If you have general outdoor skills and love for the game you can be successful,sometimes just being there is a success.I take my 6 year old grandson from time to time and he loves it.I sometimes wonder will he have the opportunity to be a mentor to his grandson.One things for sure,it won't be because its a shortage of coyotes.
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Krustyklimber
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posted February 18, 2003 09:46 PM
Obviously I asked to many rhetorical questions, along with my real ones...
Because few of them have been answered.
20t-n-t says, "No one learns much from success but every one learns from failure."
After he lists his mentors like the "who's who" of shooting... LOL
I say "No one learns from failure, until they know why they failed!"
And that "Everything is learned from success..." at least everything about what does work.
We don't learn to walk by falling down... we learn to walk by staying up.
Yes, I could take it like one of Sherlock Holmes' problems... eliminating all the possibilities one by one, trying something on a stand, and dismissing it as "not worthy" and never using it again... because it had "no result".
But that would take a long time to systematically go through each call, stand location, scent... etc. eliminating one by one...
If you like to learn from the failures of others, me and Red are a gold mine! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I definitely know we don't know it all, I am begining to doubt we know anything. And we don't appear to be learning, but it's impossible to tell... It's hard to tell how much better zero success is than zero success. lol
Scott,
You did good on the answers you did give.
You said who taught you most and how you hooked up with him.
What kept you going until you were good at it?
There is no greater incentive to learn to kill INDIVIDUAL STOCK KILLING COYOTES than when your job depends on it.
That's a good way to cover that question, but I'm not sure I'd be willing to take that big of a leap of faith. And I'm really glad I didn't do that last year... I'd have starved to death by now! LOL
Then you go on to a big list of generalities, many of which seem to be eluding me...
1. Being properly equipped
I believe we have this so much more than covered... but I have no clue what your idea of proper is.
2. Understanding various calling conditions and how it affects coyote behavior.
You can learn that on your own?
3. Knowing what the coyotes are doing in your areas, knowing when they are doing it, and knowing why they are doing it. Link me? LOL
The best coyote callers out there are students of their behavior.
Coyotes in my area are eating cats, off the porch, day and night, because they're hungry... this should be like shooting fish in a barrel, but I know I'm missing something here.
4. Locating coyotes prior to calling
Coyotes here are known to be very close mouthed, and most often do not sing on their own, they even more rarely are said to respond to howling.
I have only once ever had a coyote respond to my howl... that was six hours from home, not where we usually can hunt (couldn't get back to that spot with a snowmobile now).
5. Approaching the stand
I wouldn't know if we were doing this right or not... I've never seen it done properly.
6. Stand selection to best handle coyotes
See #5
7. The sounds to make - important but not as important as some of these other factors
Now this I know... Mr. Cronk says it best "sit down with something at your back, and blow the call, they will come", you just gotta sound like food.
Too bad this hasn't been the case.
8. How to call and when to call
This seems to be the most difficult part to figure out. I can blow the call... but I don't know if my calling is any good or not, judging by results I'd say "no"... but we leave a stand and Red says "that sounded good..." Shaking his head in the same wonderment I am. Same for Red's callin'. And if my tape of Mr Cronk lipsqueeking isn't the sound of someone who knows how to call I don't have one.
I often play the recorded sound of a successful caller.
9. Spotting coyotes before they spot you
This too should not be a huge problem... I have excellent vision and am often the one who first sees a critter. Red is also very good at finding "that deer shaped stump" that's actually a deer.
10. HANDLING COYOTES PROPERLY
This one is so general I don't even know what you mean? Handling the fur after the kill? Handling the exitement (buck fever?)? Handling them in the sense of getting them to do just what you want?
11. Knowing when to hold them and when to fold them. In other words, when you need to go to them when they don't come to you.
Once again... quite cryptic... Is this like where dude had 'em stuck up on the wooded hill and heard their response to his howling? And because they would not cross an invisible property line he needed to go in after them?
12. UNDERSTANDING THAT FAILURE IS NOT ALWAYS YOUR FAULT
But I also understand that much of it is.
Pup,
That was a straight answer! I am sorry to hear of your loss.
Leonard,
Did you mean to post that in the other thread?
This one is not about honey holes it's about how to find out what I'm doing wrong by myself... well with me and Red.
Like I said before I know I'm not doing it right, I'm not seeing any coyotes... I just don't know how many or what those things are.
I didn't mention my health in this thread, but thanks for your concern.
My health problem, and most of the reason I no longer climb, is permantent. Well it'll only last as long as I do.
Without going into a bunch of details, I have a pronounced limp, which can vary with the weather... some days I can walk miles, others barely across the house, and I cannot carry heavy loads at all.
Now let's just narrow it down to one questin at a time...
First lets do the one most important to me.
What was the #1 biggest mistake you'd been making, 'til someone set you straight?
Jeff
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WolverineAtWork
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posted February 19, 2003 07:58 AM
I've learned a great deal from reading articles and forums on the internet. Then I have had the fortune of seeing that learning put into action by experienced hunters/callers.
I haven't been at this game all that long and my primary mentor is still my main calling buddy. I have also been fortunate enough to be mentored "remotely" by some great callers who I still have to find the time to get afield with.
To toss out a few names and my gratitude for putting up w/ my questions and corny (and not so corny) ideas, I give my thanks to Robb, Rich and Jay.
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Lone Howl
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posted February 19, 2003 09:48 AM
Intresting topic cause I think on this occasionaly.
Im a loner by nature, I like to learn things on my own and I will read, research, dig and try everything till I settle on a style of my own.I mainly taught myself back in the day from articles and videos but before that I just went out and did it cause I had a LOT of free time( NO JOB)some people considered me a bum cause all I did was hunt or shoot all the time.I learned a lot and then when you come across an article or something describing a hunt or techniques to use I would be suprised because thats what I was doing or thought I "invented"the technique.I do think some people have more talent than others, Im NOT saying I do but some people just have a natural intrest or relate better to certain things and it makes it easier for em.
The more I think about my start as a caller I keep remembering things that I havnt thought of in years that have started me on my way.
My grandpa and dad were always into hunting and I was raised that way thank god.But they were into "standard" animals, deer,doves etc,whicj is cool, I hunted the hell out of em growing up.But one day I came across some old calls in my GREATgrandfathers hunting stuff he had left me when he passed on.There were two calls one wood and one black marble like plastic.The plastic one came aprt and had different wood capsules that held different reeds labled "jackrabbit" and "cottontail".I had no idea what they were.He was from Nevada but had lived and worked in Canada and all over.He lived in Battle Creek NV in the middle of nowhere for the last 20 years of his life.I went there a couple of times and thought how crappy it was, I was very young.Wish I lived out there now. Come to find out he was a very good caller in his day and all that stuck in the back of my mind for years untill I decided I wanted to try it and I was on my way.I think hunting is in the blood for some people.
On the subject of taking someone to all your prime areas; I hate doing it too but one of my things in the past several years is to get people into hunting.A lot of people I know would love to get into it but are not raised around it or are afraid to shoot a rifle or whatever.And they NEVER believe you can actually call an animal to you, even when they see it on a hunting show on tv.These people are the ones I take out.I know we all think theres to many hunters around and they are crawling all over our areas but we NEED more people hooked on it like us.We NEED more hunting licenses sold and more people getting out to vote in our intrests.
When you call a coyote right up to someone who has never seen it before it leaves quite an impression, they are hooked for the most part.I have been in a bit of trouble running around in my younger years and the love of hunting pulled me from the streets and Ive seen it do the same for a couple teens I know.I will gladly share an area or two for this trade off, it only spurs me on to seek out new territory,I hate calling the same old places every year anyway.
Well Ive probably gotton way off track and dont make sense but at least I got a lot of typing practice today. 
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Leonard
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posted February 19, 2003 05:25 PM
Lone Howl, are you sure you don't mean Battle Mountain? I've hunted up there often. LB
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Bryan J
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posted February 19, 2003 09:03 PM
I didn’t grow up hunting coyotes, my dad or my grandpa never blew a call. However, the first coyote I saw killed was by my dad on a deer hunt. (running at 200 yards) I have been where you are now, in the not so distant past. At one point I thought those calls on the wall at the sporting goods store was a scam to get my hard earned money. I got discouraged and began road hunting exclusively. I moved to Southern Utah and happened to end up working with a guy that hunted coyotes. I bombarded him with questions, until he decided it would be easier to just show me. Thank you Tom for your patience, trust and teaching me a few basic tricks.
Tom taught me basic stuff. Hide the truck. Stay off the skyline. Stay put for twenty minutes or longer. (Area specific) Tom called in a series. Tom listened to me call, and told me I needed more emotion, and volume. I know these mistakes sound trivial but I was doing them all wrong, and any one of them could lead to an unproductive stand.
Krusty, you mentioned that the coyotes were eating cats. Have you tried sounding like one? I have found if you get a diaphragm call going you can move your lips just like you are saying meeeoow and sound pretty close, with practice very close. The foxes around here don’t think much of it, maybe the coyotes in your area will.
I hope I answered your question.
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Lone Howl
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posted February 19, 2003 09:17 PM
YES! Thank you Leonard, I got mixed up.Whats it like around there nowdays anyway?
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Krustyklimber
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posted February 19, 2003 10:45 PM
Thanks Brian!!!
Now we're getting somewhere!
Tom listened to me call, and told me I needed more emotion, and volume.
Ok guys, this is the kind of thing I wanna hear...
I know these mistakes sound trivial but I was doing them all wrong, and any one of them could lead to an unproductive stand.
None of these are trivial to me! This is the nuts and bolts of it all... but you gotta have the right nut with the right bolt. I think you understand my thinking here. Whew, finally.
We have tried a little bit of cat distress, Red just got it down not long ago, with the diaphram call, enough volume was hard to master for a while though.
I can't put a diaphram call in my mouth, though the gagging and puking might attract something... lol So for me it's the e-caller for cat distress.
Thanks so much!
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Leonard
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posted February 20, 2003 09:44 AM
I think I have shared this before, somewhere? I got lucky and called a coyote on the first stand I ever made, and several years went by, for one reason or another I was focused on quail and deer. But this was because I never had any contact with someone that had any experience with predators, at all.
So, I went to a club meeting and joined, and found out there were others with the fever. One hunt with an experienced "mentor" if that is an accurate description(?) and it was as if a veil was lifted from my eyes. That was all I needed; from that point on, I'm self taught.
I will mention that you are sometimes a lot more successful than you are aware. You need to know what to look for. And, no. I can't describe what it is that you look for, you just have to be a keen observer.
Good hunting. LB
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posted February 20, 2003 11:45 AM
You need to know what to look for.
It wouldn't be...coyotes would it? hehe..
I'll throw out another question that follows Krusty's line:
What took you the longest to finally get the hang of? ie. calling, lip squeaks, stand selection, etc.
For me, my ongoing battle is keeping wind direction in mind. The wind around here shifts so often that many times a stand setup changes between the time you get to your stand and the time you sit down.
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posted February 20, 2003 11:52 AM
My introduction to predator calling is quite similar to Leonards, although I had no personal mentor to hunt with.No one I knew was interested in, or had been actively predator hunting. I have always been an avid reader of outdoor publications, but steered towards the specialty magazines rather than Outdoor Life or Sports Afield. My taste were more Guns and Ammo,Shooting Times, Fur,Fish and Game etc... Always fascinated me the pic of the Burnham Bros squatting behind a prickly pear clump, with a coyote or bobcat 15 feet in front of them....I just had to do that. Bought a Circe jackrabbit call, and went to work, looking for that "just right" prickly pear clump:) I did in fact call a coyote on my first stand, sitting in an old wooden cotton trailer that had been hauled out into our lower cattle pasture, that was Dec of 1968. Everything else was self taught, until I was maybe in my mid thirties, and developed some friendships with other guys who called.Conversely, most of the guys I have hunted with over the last ten years, those who have not called predators, I have willingly taken out hunting to show them how to get a start.It's been a fun ride.
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posted February 20, 2003 09:53 PM
Lone Howl
According to the Washington Post (DC), Battle Mountain is the "armpit of america." One of their reporters happened to go through there 6-8 months ago and did not get recognized as a god, so tried to trash the town. It sort of backfired. There are now billboards up on I80 advertising it's new status.
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posted February 21, 2003 12:33 AM
Hi ya Jack, the Washington post has a lot of nerve calling Battle Mt. the armpit of America. When Washington is one of the.....if not the worst big city in America, Good Hunting.
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Lone Howl
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posted February 21, 2003 10:28 AM
Ha! Id like to get back thru there one of these days and try some calling,I pulled some old pics out and it looks like a coyote infested area although Im sure it gets hit hard.
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posted February 21, 2003 10:45 AM
When I first started calling, I took information that I read on the subject and went with that. I had pretty good luck for a few years because hardly anyone else was calling at the time. When the coyotes wised up and quit coming so well, I got on the phone and called Murray Burnham. Murray became my mentor, and helped me all he could over the phone and through short letters by mail. Then one day the phone rang and it was Murray Burnham. He said "let's go huntin'" and I said "OK". I ended up going on a four day hunt down in texas with the great Murray Burnham. Did I have a mentor? Dang right I did!!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted February 21, 2003 12:34 PM
Did I have a mentor? Yes, indeed, the great A.E. Mashburn himself taught this young lad a thing or two about knocking down coyotes back in the day!
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posted February 21, 2003 12:59 PM
Hey, Krustyklimer, can I be your mentor? i see you post on this board and another board (the best board!) I think that anyone who has not called in and shot a coyote should do more reading and less posting most guys here have a couple hundred under there belts. you might learn something other than running your keyboard warmer. like i used to do a lot of yapping, but i';m not doing much of that anymroe except about stuff i really know about which is shooting deer and shooting crows, but as far as coytoes go i just sit back and listen now. You should do the same.
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Greenside
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posted February 21, 2003 01:24 PM
Holy Smoley! We got people coming out of the woodwork. Welcome Bruce! Never post there, but I do stop over at the Shade Tree on ocassion just to see what's up with you.
My mentor was and is my current calling partner. Started me out by howling in a coyote on the very first two stands of the day. He even let me shoot them. That was about fifteen years ago. Been hooked ever since.
Dennis
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Krustyklimber
prefers the bunny hugger pronunciation: ky o tee
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posted February 21, 2003 02:12 PM
Now let's just narrow it down to one question at a time...
First lets do the one most important to me.
What was the #1 biggest mistake you'd been making, 'til someone set you straight?
Jeff
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Rich
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posted February 21, 2003 02:35 PM
Krusty,
Going back to call the same place too often was my biggest mistake. If a man had enough country lined up so that he could call the same place only once or twice a year, well he would educate a lot less coyotes.
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If you call the coyotes in close, you won't NEED a high dollar range finder.
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