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Topic: No Nose Coyotes
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R.Shaw
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posted February 04, 2003 02:27 PM
A friend and I just got back from a coyote/cat calling trip in south Texas. A huge ranch, right on the Mexican border. Several coyotes and cats called and lots of fun. All daytime calling because night calling was not allowed. A couple of things were unusual which I would like to talk about. Most of you probablly have experienced it, but it was new to me.
The coyotes we called never used the wind. They would approach the caller from any direction.There was always a slight breeze and even the coyotes that came from down wind, did so with tongues hanging out. It was simply point A to point B. A straight line from where they were to the caller. Never swinging to get downwind.
Their eyes were a different story. I usually hunt in MO with carharts and a jacket and I kinda know what you can and cannot get away with as far as movement is concerned. Their eyesight was gobbler-like. The slightest movement caused the old right angle. Sometimes you didn't have to move. Even in full camo and facenet. It just had to be something that looked out of place. One coyote came at a run from over a quarter mile away down a road. When he spotted a dead coyote laying on a slight bank, it was off to the cactus. Just looked like it did't belong. Even the caller had to completely hidden off to the side of the road.
I would like to say thanks to Steve Craig my teacher and friend. How you been doing Steve?
Randy
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Leonard
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posted February 04, 2003 04:27 PM
Well, I don't see anything unusual, in your experience. I've hunted along the border, in Texas, not a whole lot different than some sections along the AZ and CA border area.
There are days when they come straight in, there are days when they are all spooky, won't even show, and there are days when every last one circles downwind.
What sort of sounds were you using?
Your questions show why we always have a wide divergence of opinion about camo and movement; even dead animals lying around. For instance, I have seen them walk up and sniff, check up and stare, and flare off and get lost. You can't put a coyote in a box, they do what they want, but it sounds to me like you were into a fairly unexploited population.
Good hunting. LB
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R.Shaw
Peanut Butter Man, da da da da DAH!
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posted February 04, 2003 06:10 PM
Leonard,
I agree, the coyotes had not been called much. Especially during the day. However, we only killed 1 pup, the rest were worn gummed and few teeth. This ranch catered mostly to deer hunting and after a day of hunting we noticed they would not approach any roads that had been traveled a lot. There were few trucks moving around during the day. We only saw 2 in 3 days of hunting. Of course these traveled roads had the deer stands on them. Just get off the main road 100 or so yards on a side road and you were set.
I own a WT and tried sounds from the snowshoe to birds. Only one they liked was the cottontail. I used howls quite a bit and not 1 taker. Sometimes a howl in return, but none approached that we saw. They would howl back, but not move afer 10 minutes or so of talk.
Medium volume for 2 or 3 minutes, then wide open for 10 more. The first coyotes would show in 30 seconds to 2 minutes. The second half of the stand produced coyotes in about 8 minutes. One stand had 3 coyotes and 2 cats show up. Another 1 coyote and 2 cats. I believe some coyotes overran the caller on more than one occasion. Seemed like they had a hard time pinpointing the sound in that thick brush. Just based on their body language.
Randy
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22-250
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posted February 04, 2003 06:59 PM
Leonard,
With the WT caller, I having been getting the same response as Randy. The animals (coyotes, bobcats and gray foxes) all are running in at full speed. The heck with the wind. The last cat I shot ran down a dirt road for most of half mile to the call. The cat before that did the same thing. Last weekend, I got four gray foxes, my only double, came from downwind to the call and were going to leave upwind, before I put them down.
Last week had a pair of coyotes running side by side to within 20 yards of the callers. I only got one of them.
All of the response came within 10 minutes most within 2 minutes. No takers on howls.
[ February 04, 2003, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: 22-250 ]
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