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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 10, 2018, 01:27 PM:
I'm going to order a cleaning rod and I am wondering who has what, and why?
I have one for shotgun and 10 for rifle, lengths from 30" to 41" and none for 17 caliber. I don't have any dedicated to 7mm to 30 and above; I make due with a 22 caliber rod.
So, most of these rods will run between $25 and $50, am I poor or average or what? How many do you have? What type or brand do you prefer?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 11, 2018, 02:47 AM:
About the same. Except I do have .17, .20, 6mm and a few bigger bore rods. But most of them are .22's.
Most of them are Dewey. Which are fine. I like the few Boretech and Tipton ones better though.
Tipton CF is the only way to go for a .17, IMO.
- DAA
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 11, 2018, 04:35 AM:
What's a cleaning rod?
JK, I have a 17 cal Dewey, unimpressed for the most part. I have a couple of no name (Shooters Choice?) 22 cal rods and that's it
Following this thread cause I could use better.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 11, 2018, 11:05 AM:
I agree with Dave, The BoreTech and Tipton, (both are 43") are probably the better quality. However, those generic ones work good enough when you consider the BoreTech has a high quality bearing that spins like crazy, but I think it was very close to fifty bucks? The J Dewey you can get from Natchez for less than $21. I have two others that are 41" long, and the rest are 36" but two are just 30". I'm getting another 36" Dewey just so I don't have to switch the brush and the patch.
Good hunting. El Bee
[ June 11, 2018, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 11, 2018, 04:55 PM:
One piece Tipton carbon fiber, one for .17 cal and a .22cal for everything else. And, Lucas bore guides!!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 12, 2018, 05:53 AM:
Image shattered!
I figured Fred to be categorized by length and caliber and carried by a spare golf club bag, perhaps on wheels?
I probably mentioned once or twice, a man I know who has killed a lot more coyotes than I have and I have learned a few things from him. For example, he said every time he kills a coyote, he adds ten minutes to the stand. Considering some of the coyote rich environments he is known to haunt, that could be some very LONG stands!
But, I'm wandering. No, what he said was; (and it boggled my mind) that he NEVER cleans his barrel, literally never! Can you imagine the copper fouling in that barrel? I know he shot a Model 700, chambered in 6mmRemington for decades. And I also know that he achieved his goal, his quest of killing two coyotes with one shot, just to say he done it. I'd guess he let a few get away, lining up that perfect shot? Anyway, different strokes, but this Dude doesn't waste time cleaning a barrel, but he did use those cleaning bullets that were popular, (relatively speaking) at one time.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on June 12, 2018, 08:03 AM:
Couple Deweys and a Tipton that i prefer.17 and 22 plus a Dewey 30 cal that 'peels'leaving little black chunks.Annoying as hell.Good bore guides that were made 30 yrs ago or so by a friend are key for me.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on June 12, 2018, 08:47 AM:
Tiptons and a couple other no names. I have a steel .30 cal WW2 rod with wood handle in original cloth carrying case, with accessories, stamped US MARINES that my gramps gave me. I still use it.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2018, 06:27 AM:
They don't give away those Tipton's either. However, it's the only one I know of that has a hole in the handle for hanging; either a nice touch, or worthless, depending on your point of view? And, the handle is either "man sized" or way too bulky for my tastes. The color ain't particularly attractive, but I'm getting picky, I guess?
And, by the way, that second from the top, red handle is a Parker Hale, pretty sure it was my "first" one piece cleaning rod.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: also, of note. The black grooved handle below the J Dewey. You can see that it's rusted, because, on a trip, that's the one I stick under carpeting in the back of the camper shell. I can't remember how many times a cleaning rod came in handy, but they are nice to have along. Ever stick a bullet in the lands? LB
PS that bottom handle is Ironwood.
[ June 13, 2018, 06:39 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 15, 2018, 07:00 PM:
I'm not so much a 'rifle guy' but for some reason I saved this article by Petzal a few years ago. Nice young man. Seems to know what he's talking about.
THE RIGHT ROD.
If you want to shoot straight, you had better watch what you stick down your barrel. By David E. Petzal.
A bad cleaning rod used in any manner, or a good cleaning rod used improperly, can wreck a barrel in a surprisingly short time. So, start with a good rod ---- one that either doesn't bend at all or flexes a little but always snaps back straight. An example of the unbending type would be one made by J. Dewey Rods (deweyrods.com). It's nylon-coated stainless steel with a ball-bearing handle.An example of the latter --- and what I use --- would be the rods made by Neil Jones (neiljones.com). They're made of uncoated spring steel, and though they will flex if you use a lot of muscle, they snap back dead straight. Because they're not stainless they will rust on you, so don't keep them in your damp garage.
RODS TO AVOID
Steer clear of anything made of aluminum or brass. Jointed rods, of any construction fall into this category; they're simply too flimsy, and if the joints don't fit together precisely (many don't), little edges can stick out and cause all kinds of mayhem in the bore. (They do make a handy tool to punch out mud or snow that clogs the muzzle.)
GUIDING HAND
Bore guides are nothing more than tubes that lock into the receiver and keep the rod centered on it's trip down the barrel. They can range from simple, inexpensive plastic models to the very elegant ones made by Neil Jones. Either way, it's no accident that they're held as sacred objects by knowledgeable shooters, since they make it nearly impossible to do anything bad to your barrel --- provided you have a decent rod.
TIP TIPS
Rods have two types of tips: slotted and pointed (jag). Slotted tips don't give you as good a patch-to-bore fit as jags, and they invite you to drag a dirty patch back and forth through the barrel. That is not going to do your rifling any good. With a jag, you impale the patch on it's point and shove it down the barrel. When you pull the rod back, the patch falls off. Don't bother with stainless-steel brushes; they are an abomination. Use phosphor-bronze bristles instead.
The best thing you can do to a cleaning rod is wipe it off a lot. I keep a roll of paper towels over my workbench and wipe my rod every time it comes out of the bore.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 16, 2018, 05:41 AM:
That's good useful information, ko ko. I certainly assumed that people here would know better than to be using segmented, screwed together cleaning rods and at least to avoid aluminum and brass. Yeah, and stainless steel brushes. Otherwise, those are words to live by. Thanks. LB
Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on June 16, 2018, 12:24 PM:
I use Bore tech
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on June 17, 2018, 10:23 AM:
Tipton.Tipton also makes bronze brushed with a bronze core that won't damage the bore.
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