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Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 25, 2016, 01:57 PM:

Spent a few days out west calling Coyotes. We usually don't go out there this early in the year but with work schedules and such we had to push it up. Seems to be a few coyotes out and about.

Well I give up the pictures won't post. We ended up killing 33 coyote though. Plus its probably good Leonard can't see the skyline. Lol

Good Hunting Chad

[ September 25, 2016, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 25, 2016, 02:08 PM:

Hey! Where's the pics?

I was hoping they would show a little skyline so I can guess, (figure out) where you were? [Smile]

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 25, 2016, 03:29 PM:

I really don't know why these damn pictures won't post I've done it before.

[ September 26, 2016, 04:05 AM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 25, 2016, 05:22 PM:

RATS!

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 26, 2016, 12:26 AM:

UTDUDE;
As long as you blur out the sign in the background that says "DONNA'S RANCH - WELLS NEV." El Bee won't have a clue as to where you were at.

[Big Grin]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 01:26 AM:

Lol. KoKo that's funny you mention that. My brothers and I had a good laugh about that when we stopped there to get gas. Remember the line by Robert Duvall in Lonesome Dove when he's talking about getting a poke. We joked that we could stop at Donna's for a poke.lol

[ September 26, 2016, 01:30 AM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 26, 2016, 04:40 AM:

Sounds like a great time! The coyotes, not Donna's [Big Grin]

.

Does seem to be a few coyote about. Me and Tim went out last weekend and killed 17 in a day and a half. But, only ONE pup, out of that 17 coyotes. Could be a fluke. But about 7, 8 years ago, something like that, we went a whole season and only killed 2 YoY for the whole year. Coyote numbers were way down the next year and took a couple years after that to come back.

Hope I'm not seeing the same thing again.

But, a few weeks ago in a completely different area, we saw plenty of pups. So, even if it is bad news, maybe it's not going to be as widespread as it seemed to be last time?

- DAA

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on September 26, 2016, 05:20 AM:

maybe a bumper crop, this year?
Heck, I'm gettin' more cool coyote pics on my trail cam. Looks like there's definitely a couple around to get whacked! This one looks like a burly mofo:

And a couple others, scrappin' n the dark:

Nice hunts, guys! Those #s are nuthin' to shake a stick at!!!
Chad, which rifle did ya grab?

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 05:22 AM:

We shot about 10 yoy... But most were adults. Should of killed over 40 coyotes. Missed a few easy shots shaking off the rust I guess.lol I did shoot a whopper that had to weigh over 40 lbs. It really was a great time, hell anymore just getting away is worth it, killing a few Coyotes is just bonus. It wasn't to bad though for 4 1/2 days of calling.

Good Hunting Chad

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 05:28 AM:

Believe it or not, I'm not very familiar with Wells. Too many Utes, for one thing.

But, as I recall, there was a street, kind of a dead end. and there was a bunch of pastel high fences around the parking which prevented the casual observer from monitoring the comings and goings. I was never a customer, so I can't remember why I happened to be there? Just my little idiosyncrasy, I never believed in paying for pussy.

When last I was in the area, on the Ute side by Wendover, was treated to several interesting "things". First, came across an open area where somebody had butchered a steer, always figured it was rustling. Second, I marveled at the brown UPS vans negotiating those back roads. Third, we were treated to an ariel display of B1 bombers flying some interesting low level maneuvers, you know, following the terrain?

Figure out how to post those pics. Hey Fred!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 05:44 AM:

Hell I have tried everything and it won't work. Sorry

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 26, 2016, 05:46 AM:

I saw Chad's pic tags, they were properly formed. He was doing that part right.

Only thing I can think, the pictures aren't actually hosted? Looked like the url was pointing to a storage share or something.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 06:05 AM:

That's not good enough! Get off your blankity blank blank and finger it out! [Smile]

edit; but Dave might be right.

[ September 26, 2016, 06:06 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 06:27 AM:

Why don't I just email them to you Leonard and you can post them?

Edit: Leonard Email sent

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 07:25 AM:

Hope this works?
titled: day 2 & 3

titled: day 4

titled: day 1

titled: also day 1

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 07:27 AM:

So, how many of those were taken after dark?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: PS that trailer looks like what those Basque sheperds live in?

[ September 26, 2016, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 07:35 AM:

Zero..... Didn't even take a spotlight...All day stands mostly daylight until around noon-2pm each day the wind really blew the first 3 days. 5 taken with the shotgun the rest were taken with .204 Rugers. Didn't that big Male picture show up.

Yeah that sheep camp is the way to go. Wood burning stove, queen and double size bed. Not roughing it by any means.lol

edit: yeah, I overlooked the big dog. Sorry

[ September 26, 2016, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 08:48 AM:

Were those hides blue?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: did you see many jacks, just driving around?

[ September 26, 2016, 08:52 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 09:03 AM:

They're still about a month away from being skinable I'd guess. That big one looked pretty good though. And yes my gawd there are ALOT of rabbits out there this year. And lots and lots of Chukars too.

Oh and I forgot we called in a BIG Bobcat too. Came in to about 75 yards. Really pretty one.

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 26, 2016, 11:25 AM:

Chad, don't get me started on those cats! You know how I feel about chickenshit regulations prejudicial towards non residents.

<sigh> The Good Old Days!

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: that is the single reason why I might consider moving to Nevada rather than Arizona. The cats up there are far better, and more of them than AZ.

edit: PS on the big cat. Did he lope in? Rather than sneak in from bush to bush?

[ September 26, 2016, 11:29 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 01:12 PM:

Yeah I agree about that bullshit law. Actually kind of funny we had just called and missed a coyote when it came sneaking through the brush, at first I thought it was another coyote until it hit a clearing then I knew right away it was a cat. Just kind of slinked away like it thought nobody had see it.lol

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 26, 2016, 01:47 PM:

Hell yeah you had a good time! Glad to see it.

My Dad was a resident to the west there and just started to trap bobcat right before he got sick.

Pretty simple explanation for the non resident hate. Not a satisfactory explanation. But simpl...

- DAA

Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on September 26, 2016, 04:47 PM:

Good going.

That is one big male for sure! Anymore, I like getting one big-old-male more than a double of yoy's.

Edit;I need to learn to spell "good" sheesh

[ September 26, 2016, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: Lonny ]

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on September 26, 2016, 07:25 PM:

Good job !!

PS: I LOVE THE CAMO !! Right on !!

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 26, 2016, 10:45 PM:

Thanks Dave, yeah it really was a good week not just killing the Coyotes, spending some time with my brothers. Don't get to do that as often as we used to.

Lonny yeah those big Coyote are nice except dragging them back to the truck.lol

Yeah Dave don't wear much camo anymore. I do have alittle Sitka camo that I bought for hunting ducks and geese that doubles for Coyote Camo when its Wet or Cold, that and a couple Camo hoodies but that's about it.lol

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Posted by Brent Parker (Member # 4354) on September 27, 2016, 05:37 AM:

UTcaller,

Is that a Timberline sheep camp? If so I have been looking at one of those for a while? Look like a great set up. How is staying in one?

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 27, 2016, 05:52 AM:

Brent, No its a Wilson made in Midway Utah. They are great. Have stayed in it in below zero weather and it will stay as warm as you like it. And it stays relatively cool when its hot out. Its pretty basic but very efficient. Has a queen sized upper bed and a double sized slide out bed. A small refrigerator/freezer, a small stove/oven ran off propane, a wood burning stove, a slide out table with bench seats on each side. Has 110 and 12 volt plugs. Solar panels that recharge the batteries. Definitely a sweet setup.

http://www.wilsoncamps.com/camps.html

Good Hunting Chad

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 27, 2016, 07:32 AM:

That rig seems very efficient, and you cannot discount the nostalgia angle, at least for me? I have seen those things for many years and never given them a second thought, who makes them, where do you get them, etc.

How about a ballpark $ figure, moderately equipped?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 27, 2016, 07:51 AM:

Ours was about $18-19,000. But that was about 7 or 8 years ago.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on September 27, 2016, 08:05 AM:

This is the type I see a lot of...

Have always thought though, that a modern one like Chad's, would be "the" way to go, if a fella was going to drag a trailer around for this kind of stuff.

- DAA

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 27, 2016, 08:13 AM:

That is really cool Dave. [Smile]

We don't really take it into really rough places although it is definitely designed to. With the Chassis the way it is. But you can't back it up with a truck to save your ass.lol

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 27, 2016, 09:26 AM:

Yes, that certainly occurred to me; bet that's a bitch to back up?

As far as seeing them out on the prairie, if you ask me, they are more common along the western edge of Nevada.

But, for me, always incognito, I bet you could park this rig anywhere out on the flats and it would never get a second look.

The last thing anyone would think of would be a hunter.

Really cool!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 27, 2016, 09:35 AM:

That's totally true Leonard. Where it gets really funny is when you stop to get fuel EVERYBODY and I do mean EVERYBODY stares at you when you pull in. You can almost read there minds. " What in Gods name is that contraption". lol We do have alot of people come over and ask us about it. Lots of Big Game hunters look at it and think they want one until you tell them how much the cost.

Good Hunting Chad

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 27, 2016, 10:09 AM:

By the way, those hero shots, if I didn't know better, every face seemed to be in deep shadows, like to prevent recognition. Except for the big dog. Is that Chad?

Seems like the axle setup is primarily for stability and independence, such as when having tandem axles and then you need to jack up the tongue so it won't rock and roll.

Funny thought. You say everybody stares at you pulling into a gas station. I bet you have to be extremely careful not to embarrass yourself getting out of tight quarters by backing out.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 27, 2016, 10:22 AM:

That's just my ugly mug......But yes it can be embarrassing and alittle stressful at times when pulling into a gas station especially when there are alot of people getting gas too. [Roll Eyes]

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 27, 2016, 10:39 AM:

By the way, if you click on that link to Wilson, also click on the one called history, up at the top. Explains the evolution of sheep wagon s and sheep camps. At least I thought it was interesting.

Also the info about the sheep dog trials at Soldiers Hollow.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Brent Parker (Member # 4354) on September 30, 2016, 03:54 AM:

Chad,

Thanks, I have been looking at Timberlines and will take a good look at Wilson from here on out. The wife and I have been considering getting one for awhile. They look to be far better built than anything else on the market and excellent for hunting and trapping out of.

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on September 30, 2016, 04:15 AM:

Yeah they are pretty nice. You can easily drive 70 mph on the freeway with them, and they are designed to go through some pretty rugged washes and gullies. We don't beat it by any means but I know a few sheep men here that do and they hold up very well.

Good Hunting Chad

Posted by WhiteMtnCur (Member # 5) on February 10, 2017, 12:04 PM:

I have two sheep camps, I keep one on each sheep trail I work. One is a Wilson and one is an old Timberline. Between the two I’m sleeping in a sheep camp over 200 nights a year for the last six years. I can highly recommend them for those wanting to get their camp off the beaten path. In my opinion the Wilson is a little better rig than the Timberline.

At the Trailing of the Sheep Festival a couple years ago I climbed in a brand new Timberline, not one of their fancy ones, a base model “Legend” and was a bit underwhelmed. Many of the features that made these things so rugged and last so long on sheep operations is no longer incorporated, instead its mostly mass produced RV parts in a sheep camp frame. You can’t be on any rural highway in the Great Basin during hunting season without seeing these things behind hunter’s rigs and Timberline has really catered to that market. It seems construction is now more geared to the weekender than the sheepherder. The Wilson line is a lot more impressive for hard use.

I have one with a highway chassis and one with a wagon chassis, I hate pulling the wagon chassis on asphalt. It’s smooth and straight right up until it’s not. I haven’t had a wreck yet, but most every sheepman I know seems to have a good story about pulling a wagon chassis camp a little too fast. I hate pulling the highway chassis rig up mountain switchbacks so pick your poison for your use.

For you guys wanting one but not wanting to pay the exorbitant price these things are selling for, watch the northern California sheep outfits. Liberal ideology about grazing is killing what’s left of all those historic sheep trails and those guys are selling out all too often. If the camps go to auction, it seems they sell for more than double what they’re worth because people are stupid over them these days. But generally they can be bought right off the ranch for a fair price.

Posted by 3 Toes (Member # 1327) on February 15, 2017, 08:42 AM:

If any of you guys happen to run across a used camp, I have been looking for one for years. I would drive a long ways for the right deal.

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on October 11, 2018, 01:09 AM:

Here ya go Loco.......

Posted by Brent Parker (Member # 4354) on October 23, 2018, 07:47 AM:

Hey Chad I know we talked about your Wilson Camp once before and looked at them and almost pulled the trigger on one. Was concerned with their hay wagon pulling arrangement. How does it pull at interstate speeds? I was concerned about it fish tailing bad?
Great job on the coyotes.

Thank Brent

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2018, 10:39 AM:

I have a comment about auctions, in general. People are stupid, too competitive, unwilling to lose, unwilling to allow someone a good deal. I have never been to an auction where bidders behaved intelligently. One time, my stupid brother in law bid against me. I never forgot it. But that's auctions, people got to have it, won't give up. These guys think they are victorious, while paying way over what the item is worth, which is the definition of stupidity.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on October 23, 2018, 11:10 AM:

Brent,
Yeah it’s definitely designed to go into some rougher places like washes and such. But it does very well on the interstate, doesn’t have any problems with fishtailing. Usually pull it with a Cummins Diesel and we drive 65-70 mph. Only thing is it likes to push the truck alittle when it’s a steeper grade. Ask my brother though and he wishes it had a tandem axle. You can’t back the damn thing to save your ass. I think You can have it made either way though.

Good Hunting Chad

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 23, 2018, 06:09 PM:

He who shall not be named wrote, complaining that Chad has been wearing that "lucky" blue plaid shirt for years. See, that's why he's banned.

Good hunting. El Bee

that's a hell of a nice dog coyote

edit:

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Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on October 23, 2018, 08:08 PM:

[Wink]

Shot one just a bit smaller than that one last year in the World Contest that Won Big Coyote weighing right at 45 lbs......

Good Hunting Chad

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