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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 17, 2018, 05:32 PM:
Since we don't seem to be having a camp-out this year and another thread seems to indicate that we're shutting down in Oct. I thought that I'd mention that I have a Rigor Rabbit decoy that I may part with if the offer's good.
I plan on taking it to the 'North of Willcox' site on Sat. 5 Jan. '19 and Sun. 6 Jan. '19 if anybody would care to drop by and look it over.
The dates or the location are not up for debate.
As long as I'm there, I'll probably set up my tent trailer and awning. Might as well put a package of Brats on the bbq, too. A bottle of mead would go well with the brats. And some music; gotta have a Willy Jack cd playing. [Cool]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 18, 2018, 07:04 AM:
Well, the way I read the chatter, if someone comes up with $25,000, the site will close down. BUT. This will give me the opportunity to do the remake and the reincarnation of
The New HuntmastersBBS 2.0

Everything would be transferred, membership rolls, archives, and all your sage pronouncements.

PS the phrase Rigor Rabbit rings some kind of bell? Was it a decoy of some type?

You know, back in the dark ages, before camo, I invented a decoy using string and rubber bands and a stuffed puppy. While it was pretty useless to yank on the string most of the stand, when a coyote was spotted, I could have used an assistant to keep up the motion, so I could unlimber the machine gun. Incidentally, this was also before C cell batteries were invented.

Well, I'm kidding about that, but not about camo. At one time, it was totally unavailable. If lucky, you might score a WWII surplus HBT, but commercial camouflage clothing had not been invented yet.
El Bee

edit: HBT, you might ask? I was in the Army for a year and a half, filling out my laundry slips and never knew what the hell HBT meant. "Herring Bone Twill" (don't ask, that's all I know)

[ September 18, 2018, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 18, 2018, 08:05 AM:
Yeah, it's a paranoid looking rabbit that shakes & shimmies.
I'll be at the old camp-out site for two days if anybody wants to look at it.

Actually, I may get there Friday afternoon to get set up and pull out Sunday afternoon.
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on September 18, 2018, 03:44 PM:
I will be there Koko. Drove past it couple months ago, when hauling my dog to the vet there in Safford. Sure looked like it was locked up to my eye? Maybe I wasn't paying close attention? Looked like the rancher had improved to site, corrals, water etc?
I plan on being in the area from mid December for a couple four weeks or so, I'll sure plan on dropping by and shooting the shit with you, don't know about the Meade?, never had a swig of the stuff.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 18, 2018, 05:27 PM:
The two track goes past the corrals & tank. Actually, we have the option of either east or west of the Hwy. I'll get down there and figure out which side would be more better.
Mead is what the Vikings in Valhalla drank. A bit on the sweet side but I like it now & then.
You know Dr. Debbie ??? Invite her to stop by, too. Amazon Women always welcome !!!!
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on September 18, 2018, 07:33 PM:
Dr. Debbie is a good one for sure. In 2003, I worked for a ranch east of my place about 15 miles. One day we had about 25 head of new angus herd bulls that had to be semen tested, Deb was the vet who took care of this place. I had the unsavory job of punching the ass of each bull with an electrode about the size of a caulking gun, when fully inserted, the juice was turned on, the bull stiffens like hit with a tazer, immediately gains an erection, while Dr Deb hold the member in question and lets it squirt a load in a dixie cup.
That sample is put under a microscope and the bull is given a heads up for a good sample, or a thumbs down. One young cowboy took an obvious shine to Deb and her deft handling of bull pricks.
The next bull in line, when achieving an erection had obvious problems with warts, which looked somewhat like half a dozen small concord grapes along the shaft, Dr. Deb popped those things between her thumb and forefinger and shot blood two feet, this occurred just as the hand mentioned he wished he could be a bull. Without missing a stroke, she said step up cowboy and you can be next in line!
She's a good one Koko, hell, I saved over $150 bucks even after driving all the way to Safford, to get my dog neutered compared to the cheapest in Cochise county, they run a tight ship there at Desert Cross.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2018, 07:03 AM:
Wow! We need pics! I need Dr Debbie as my next screen saver. I think it best that Dorthee tags along on these neutering trips, next time. (just kidding)
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 19, 2018, 07:20 AM:
El Bee; Screen saver sent. [Smile]

Vic, it'll be good to se you again.
Ariel mentioned that he'll stop by, too.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2018, 12:40 PM:
If we let it drop that you are providing free root beer, we might see a reincarnation of the famous campouts of the past.

BTW, what's the reason for the date and the non negotiating? Not that I care, somebody's got to step up.

But for me, when certain people backed out of a commitment at the last minute, I had the feeling like herding cats, in organizing these events and getting people to turn out. None of the annual campouts were for my personal benefit, I just always felt that this was a worthy thing, to meet and greet. I sometimes felt that they might like to be paid to be there, anyway, if we can have a little bs session and reacquaint I'm all for it.

I think if we headline up in Member's Forum that the original Coyote God, Victor Carlson is going to attend, we might exceed expectations. LB
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 19, 2018, 01:04 PM:
The reason the place & date are not open to debate is because for the last few years we pissed around over details trying to please everybody until the wheels fell off of the train.

I have a small supply of Henry's Root Beer. First come first served.

Hope that you liked that screen saver. Never get tired of that one.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 19, 2018, 01:08 PM:
I can't open it? if you could send it in the body of the text as a link instead of an attachment?
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 23, 2018, 06:50 PM:
The subtle approach to a camp-out doesn't seem to be getting much attention.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 24, 2018, 03:50 AM:
It's because nobody looks at anything past Member Forum. If you, I or we want to get information out, it pretty much needs to be posted in Member's Forum at the top of the page.

So, are you beginning to understand the frustration involved in organizing just about anything when strong independent minded men are concerned?

Don't give up yet. Not quite yet.

Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 24, 2018, 04:47 AM:
Yeah, that's why this is going to pretty much be a low keyed thing.
Well aware that in most cases if ten people say that they'll attend, setting the table for five would be about right.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 24, 2018, 03:06 PM:
The way I have felt about these things, ever since the first one, I guess it was 2003? I just never wanted to jazz it up and try to "enhance" the turnout. I have always felt that if they want to come, that's great. But I don't want anybody to feel like they are doing me a favor. If these guys don't see the value in getting to know each other on a personal level, as opposed to writing a post on a message board. Big difference.

Sometimes, you feel exactly how you expected towards the particular member. Rarely, they aren't quite as you expected. Mostly, they come across in person as they do on the boards.

Still, (oh) one thing that's different is they sometimes don't look like you expected. Sometimes they have a snow white beard, which is a surprise; stuff like that.

Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 24, 2018, 04:56 PM:
[Big Grin]
Should'a seen it when it was the color of a new copper penny.
And long. People used to cringe when I pulled the bowstring back into it. Never got tangled, though.

Edit 2 spel.

[ September 24, 2018, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: Kokopelli ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 25, 2018, 06:48 AM:
Interesting. That entanglement would concern me, kinda like I feel wearing a ghilli suit and working a bolt action. I'd be scared that those strings would get jammed up in the action.

I also wonder how best to keep the frosting of the cake from being smeared all over my face? I assume it requires decisions, what to, and what not?

My apologies, as you can guess, I'm not a big fan of that stuff. Seriously, I don't get what is the satisfaction? Nothing feels better, after a week in the woods than to get the itchy stubble shaved off. I'd be as white as you; and at one time, my beard was a dark reddish color.

Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 25, 2018, 08:46 AM:
[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I razor burnt my chin once too often about four decades ago. Hasn't happened since.

Cake frosting's no big deal.
Bbq-ed ribs, on the other hand, it ain't pretty.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 25, 2018, 09:42 AM:
The mental picture is gruesome
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 28, 2018, 04:49 PM:
I’ll be there Koko, let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

I second the motion that we should invite Dr Debbie, she is easy to look at.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 28, 2018, 06:29 PM:
Yeah, and if we have an arm wrestling contest she could hand us all our asses.

Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 28, 2018, 09:26 PM:
That’s a fact!!

Seriously let me know if I can do anything to help. I have a rotisserie I could bring out and we could cook us up a little pig (lechon style). There is a guy in Pima who i buy my pigs from and his prices are good.

If the location doesn’t workout there are plenty of options. Stockton pass has a nice camping area, high creek, sunset loop, plenty of good areas.
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 01, 2018, 03:17 PM:
How would a outstate member like myself get the directions to this campout? Is this an invite only deal or open invite?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 01, 2018, 07:49 PM:
If you are a member, you are invited, Amigo!
Directions will be forthcoming, it's described as north of Wilcox, but ko ko is local and he can nail it down in plenty of time. LB
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 02, 2018, 04:53 AM:
That's good news. Looking at a map of Arizona, Wilcox is about 10 hour drive for me. Not to bad at all. If I read the earlier post correct the dates are Jan 5th and 6th 2019.
Being this would be the first get together I have attended, what would one expect from this campout?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 02, 2018, 08:53 AM:
the usual, group hugs, etc.

No, that's dedication! 10 hour drive! For me, it's like probably 7 hours. ko ko can walk it.

The ambience is casual, dress is hunter chick. Some are up and at 'em. And some wait awhile before heading out to slay a few critters. It's all freestyle, if anybody might know a couple of areas to try, ko ko?

It's not seminars and that kind of stuff, it's mostly getting to know people that you previously only knew in print.

Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 02, 2018, 09:15 AM:
Sounds like a good time!
Shoot 10 hrs drive ain't to bad. Hell I can take off from here nd drive 10 hours and still be in Texas!
What type of hunting license would I need to purchase? Don't know the rules for as predator hunting in Arizona.
Looking forward to meeting y'all and having a great weekend.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 02, 2018, 12:38 PM:
That’s a good question! Arizona loves to stick it to non res.

The last I paid was $160 for an annual small game. If they come up a little short funding illegal welcoming committee, I’m sure non resident hunters will be the first they ask to contribute.
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 02, 2018, 01:24 PM:
Wow, I better start saving for my hunting license and fuel. Yea, I always get bent over when going out of state hunting....
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 02, 2018, 02:37 PM:
The way that I'm reading the Regs, you can get a one day combo hunt / fish license for $20 a day. Even three days would be cheaper than the yearly cost.
It would be prudent to call Game & Fish to confirm that and cover Hunter Safety requirements, etc.
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 02, 2018, 03:10 PM:
Thank you Ko Ko for the information. I am happy to hear the price for one day hunt/fish is only 20$. I have sent a email out to Arizona fish and game inquire about non-resident hunting licenses and requirements.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 03, 2018, 05:51 AM:
OK, one thing on the license; since this is going to happen in Jan. if you do buy the yearly license, it would still be good should you decide to return in the fall.

Bring clothing; It's not unlikely to see temps of 20* to 80* …………………. the same day. Wind is optional and rain is always a possibility.

Tim Behle's not here to cook for us so bring your own vittles.

Hopefully, we can keep this whole thing simple and have a good time.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 03, 2018, 07:55 AM:
That's one of thee only benefits that non res ever got was a couple years ago they changed to an annual license. If you purchase the annual license in (say) June, it's good until the following June. Before, I'd buy a license in the fall, and it would only be good until December 31. Of course, it wasn't too long ago that the Arizona non resident small game annual license was $40. Which, for shooting coyotes, other states like Nevada and Wyoming, you don't need a license at all. Arizona has always reamed the non Resident, but the good part is the resident license is dirt cheap....wonder why?

Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 03, 2018, 09:30 AM:
It's a vast right wing conspiracy to attract armed red-necks to this state. We have a western boarder to defend against hippies from Calif. and the southern boarder against migrant drug smugglers.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 03, 2018, 11:55 AM:
No, I'll tell you what it is. And has always been, a distinct prejudice against foreigners, especially California residents. Arizonans think they are pretty hot shit. The truth is, they copy every little trend emanating from the Golden State, almost as quickly as Japs, where it is well known that the latest California fad is 10 hours from Tokyo via Jumbo Jet. It's almost funny to see those Nip hipsters with their Rad styles and dance moves, straight from Hollywood. Even funnier is the Arizona Cowboy version, all hat, no cattle; but they follow California styles two weeks after it's passé from Santa Monica to San Francisco. They are just discovering Hula Hoops and In N Out Hamburgers.
But, like puppies, they're cute when they are little.

(just kidding)

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: PS besides, I seem to recall, ko ko is an immigrant himself. As is Paul. But, I ain't bragging, no room to talk, until I get off my ass and buy me a double wide somewhere across the river.

[ November 03, 2018, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 03, 2018, 12:13 PM:
HA !!!!!
When I moved to Arizona I was welcomed by damn near everyone that I met.
Contrast that with moving from Calif. to Wash. I lived up in that corner of Hell that's too wet to burn for 13 years. The locals never forgave me for being Californian with only one exception; Krusty.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 03, 2018, 02:50 PM:
I gotta admit, that's probably true, all of it.

Good hunting. El Bee

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