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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2018 04:16 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
As the new moderator of the night hunting forum , and having never hunted at night feel free to ask me anything! LOL

We actually have some experts here ! I'm sure they will step up.....

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2018 06:35 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
What time does it get dark ???

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2018 11:56 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Just realize that you are only playing with half the deck.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2018 02:01 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Playing with half the deck 'cause I got the other half up my sleeve, in my boots & under my hat.
Ante up .......... Jacks or better to open !!!!

Hey, we don't mess with the clocks here in the Promised Land so what time it gets dark is a relevant question. [Big Grin]

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Paul Melching
Moderator-Night Hunting Forum & can't get it up! This matter is in dispute resolution!
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Icon 1 posted March 17, 2018 04:36 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
To answer your question KOKO it gets dark at night !One for One on the questions so far !

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 17, 2018 05:53 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Astute appointment, Leonard!

You are to be commended!

Also, that "sage adviser" is really clicking!

I otter be in government!

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 17, 2018 06:55 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Ha !!!!

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Paul Melching
Moderator-Night Hunting Forum & can't get it up! This matter is in dispute resolution!
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 02:34 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Hey KoKo how is night hunting with a trad bow can you legally , ethically use night vision? just need to know if I'm going to run this forum.

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NVWalt
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 02:44 AM      Profile for NVWalt           Edit/Delete Post 
No night vision for a traditional bow. Candle light to be proper.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 07:15 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I don't claim to know squat about night hunting. I'm waiting for Leonard to write a book on the subject to get all knowed up on it.
First problem that I can see would be shooting a bow (any bow) with the device on one's head. Anchor point, string clearance, dominate eye, depth perception, etc.
However, Walt might be on to something with a very low candle-power light.
Again, I'm just thinking out loud with little actual experience but setting a deke up next to a light that doesn't burn the fur off of the coyote might pull one all of the way in for a shot without any other light.
I do know that with a bow the shot would need to be close and that judging distance in the dark is a whole different world.
I would also suggest that anyone who tries it with night vision or regular lights put some reflective tape on the arrow if you want any hope of ever finding it again.

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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 07:32 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Luminock !

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 08:40 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
ko ko, you are talking about a very difficult proposition. In the first place, you won't get them close enough before they head downwind, but out of range. Consider those arrows as throwaways, BTW.

There is so much to comment on. Where to start?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 12:22 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, the whole 'very difficult proposition' is what makes a coyote with a bow a Hell of a trophy.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 12, 2018 03:32 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I can see you are a man that appreciates a challenge. Do it blindfolded. That should be a hell of a trophy!

We had one guy who took quite a few coyotes and grays with a bow.

Moe, might even know him, I think he was once in Pasadena chapter? Swede Swenson.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Moe
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Icon 1 posted April 24, 2018 07:25 AM      Profile for Moe           Edit/Delete Post 
I remember the name but I never knew the guy.

Since a lot of the members of the Pasadena chapter hung out at the Kittridge Bow Hut quite a few of them hunted with bows. I even tried it once.

I bought a Bear Polar model and practiced in the basement of an archery shop in Whittier. The first time I took it to the field I called in a bobcat to about 25 yards. I let an arrow fly and it glanced off the back of the cat without removing a hair. A few more failures and I was back on my Sako.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 24, 2018 07:45 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
All of Swede's pins had the moon colored in orange if taken with a bow. I've never seen anybody else with those modified pins?

But, I'm like you, day after day, flinging arrows at moving coyotes, a bobcat would be child's play. The real hunt starts when you retrieve those arrows.

Oh, in reviewing Swede's kill reports, most of them stated the location as Whitewater! Must have been Swedish humor?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Eddie
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Icon 1 posted May 02, 2018 03:02 PM      Profile for Eddie   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Back when I was younger, me and my hunting buddy would hunt squirrels with flu flu arrows and a old bear whitetail bow. We took turns hunting arrows while the other did the shooting. I had a rat terrier that would tree them, then the hunt was on. Back then we would hunt anything with bows. First coyote I shot with a bow I climb up a tree and called it in for a shot. Armadillos were the hardest thing on arrows, they could take a four blade broadhead dead center and still run 30 yards.
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Icon 1 posted May 29, 2018 07:38 AM      Profile for Semp           Edit/Delete Post 
I don't night hunt but we do have night hunting in Kaintuckee, shotgun only and no lights (except Feb 1-May31). We also have people advocating the use of center fire rifles. Center fire and moonlight, what could possibly go wrong?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2018 09:15 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That attitude stems from being unfamiliar with the whole concept.

In point of fact, hunting at night, with a light, with a partner is safer than day stands.

First of all, there is nobody around. Second, you see every house and vehicle and you know where everything is. I know that's a hard concept to understand unless you have done it. For a lot of people, it defies logic and they refuse to believe it. Nevertheless, it's true.

Hunting in the dark sounds so scary that people opposed to it don't need justification. And, believe me, it aint easy! The skill involved is way beyond day stands, where anybody can play. But, to hunt at night requires skill and planning and knowledge.

I know I'm wasting my breath because everybody knows it's cheating, and dangerous, easy and unsporting, etc. Yeah, that's what you think.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Semp
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Icon 1 posted May 30, 2018 10:09 AM      Profile for Semp           Edit/Delete Post 
If I implied I was against night hunting, that wasn't my intention. I voted for night hunting when KDFWR was asking for input. We can use shotguns only, no lights or night vision scopes except between Feb-May. The rest of the time it is hunting by moonlight only.

My objection was to the use of centerfire rifles for the moonlight phase. In Kentucky, we don't have the wide open spaces of the west. Woodlands, hills and hollows with lots of houses is the norm. Some have also argued that deer poaching will be harder to curtail when centerfires are legal at night. Whether that would be true or not I don't know.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 31, 2018 05:56 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm sorry, didn't mean to imply that you were doing that stuff, it's me that's a little overly sensitive.

You just brought up another excuse that the regulators aways bring up, we can't allow spotlighting because it will encourage poaching. The poachers will be there anyway. I get a little peeved at the people that give in and then want to tie one arm behind your back. I think it would be good if they relaxed the rules for dealing with depredation, but that's wishful thinking.

Good hunting. El Bee

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