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Topic: Listen to the Children: Ban guns
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Leonard
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posted March 14, 2018 05:32 PM
It's amazing the nerve of the Left! Organizing a demonstration and the Mainstream Media plays along with it.
We are supposed to believe that this is a spontaneous reaction to that shooting in Florida. Adults are more or less divided on the gun control issue but the friggin' Media is telling us that the children are 100% in favor of banning guns. Yeah right.
Like I just watched on Tucker Carlson tonight, he argued that if taxpayer money was used to organize in favor of the NRA, the Left would have a heart attack!
Anyway, kids can't vote, why the hell should we be influenced by what children think about this or any other issue.
When they are responsible and earning a living and paying taxes, then they can tell us what to do. It's so obvious that the Left is using the kids for their own purpose and it's pathetic.
These politicians had better pay attention to mainstream America or they are in trouble. I am sick and tired of Liberals that want to take away my rights. We give in on every harebrained proposal advanced by the damned Liberals. It's time to stand our ground and call bullshit on children dictating political policy!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted March 14, 2018 06:29 PM
The liberal left probably figures that they ended the war in 'Nam with college students so why not ban guns with high school students.
....................and then there's that blithering idiot Bloomberg removing armed officers from the schools.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot !!!!!!
Am I missing something or did somebody have a big bowl of stupid for breakfast ??????
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posted March 14, 2018 06:33 PM
I can't wrap my mind around these "walk-outs" the kids are doing. At my high school, any such idea would have been met with the principal at the gate telling us to get our ass back to class, end up at the end of the paddle, or a suspension or all three.
At 15 or 16, they don't even have the basics of readin', writin' and rithmatic down at an elementary level, much less having a grasp on "critical thinking". You've nailed it Leonard, this is progressive left adults, using children to assist in their agenda.
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Leonard
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posted March 15, 2018 10:52 AM
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Here is more unbelievable, highly sophisticated coordination at the highest levels of Liberal Brain Trust.
You just can't get children to appreciate the symbolism involved. Nationwide? It smacks of ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA, if you ask me?
Children know their phones and Facebook and a few things about the world, (damned little) but politically, they are complete infants! And yet, we are expected to believe this Nationwide protest, is a grass roots effort? A band on a football field spelling out words of protest? This is Progressive group think, not 16 year old children! They are being manipulated: listen to the children.
It's so shameful I want to scream! How can the Media allow itself to be manipulated so blatantly?
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted March 15, 2018 05:36 PM
These staged protests are nothing more than a way to further indoctrinate the impressionable kids into being good little socialists that cannot think for themselves.
I wonder how many of these "concerned protesters" went home after school, picked up their video game and resumed killing people.
It has been reported on the news here that since the staged walkout day, there have been 4 new threats by students at local schools in the area. The protesters sure are concerned about school safety, aren't they?
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Paul Melching
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posted March 16, 2018 02:37 AM
I wonder how many would show up if these protests were held after school ! ROFLMAO
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NeilA
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posted March 17, 2018 08:32 AM
Very good point Paul!
Also, Utilizing fear is probably an effective tactic, children and teens ar easy targets for them to manipulate, but yeah, hold the demonstrations after school !
I think the Fla. killer has received enough publicity, but the left has to milk it through these protests. I sure hope they are not simply promoting another deadly incident, but fear they are. Of course they have the NRA to absorb all of the blame.
When I was in high school the left (most of the teachers)seemed confident that Reagan was an aberation and we would all mold into obedient socialists soon. That was 38 years ago.
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Moe
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posted March 17, 2018 12:12 PM
Brits lost their guns over a horrific school shooting in Scotland. Aussies lost their guns over a horrific shooting also. And now we have a long string of school shootings in the US.
IMO the majority of these shootings have been staged in order to get the same results. The difference is that we have a Constitution and the right to bear arms is listed as a God given right
One thing is for sure, every time the Democrats have pushed this hard for gun control they've paid heavily at the polls.
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Leonard
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posted March 17, 2018 01:31 PM
Moe, maybe I wasn't paying attention or something? Did you say the Democrats? The Media tells me its spontaneous urging from the mouths of babes. I'm pretty sure that's the message?
Listen to the Children!
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Kokopelli
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posted March 17, 2018 01:34 PM
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the Crusades led by children ??? Pure & without sin and all of that.
Pretty sure it didn't end well.
Bad idea then ........... Bad idea now.
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Leonard
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posted March 17, 2018 01:44 PM
That must have been in the Carter Administration? Nothing worked during that miserable four years!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted March 18, 2018 03:20 AM
Sure it did LB don't you remember the 'Whip inflation now' buttons ? LOL
Under Carter I had a mortgage with a 17.5 % interest rate and was happy I could qualify to move my young family where there was no GRAFITI He was a miserable pos !
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Leonard
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posted March 18, 2018 09:44 AM
Damn! And I thought I had it bad with a 12.5% Variable!
We had the teenage boys "drive" our cars in the line, up to the pumps. They loved playing big shot. Odd, Even days?
Be on the lookout for dangerous Attack rabbits!
And, that asshole used to command a nuclear submarine!
When you think about it, our citizens have elected a sorry bunch of Presidents! And, the press couldn't even leave Reagan alone, one of the greatest Presidents of the last century.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: say what you will about FOX NEWS, but can you imagine where we would be without even that much of a counter weight to the Liberal Networks? Just think about the sand being pumped up our asses by the usual suspects! Imagine that we had nowhere to go for the stuff that the networks don't want us to know! Give thanks for small favors.
Look, I have said it before. When the news readers tell us those outrageous lies, there should be actual TRUTH POLICE SQUADRON. They shouldn't be able to get away reporting on a news conference featuring Adam Schiff and his outright lies! And, not a reporter in the bunch questions his truthfulness! Instead, they eat it up and breathlessly regurgitate it on the six o clock news! I saw Nunes interviewed yesterday and he said there have been 100 leaks out of his committee and he knows for a fact that none of that have come from any Republican member. That implicates that slime bag, Schiff and his smug little face. That bastard is evil! Okay, end of rant.
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posted March 19, 2018 04:06 PM
Just had a random thought............
I wonder if these caring children would be as enthusiastic about banning violent video games as they are guns ???
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Leonard
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posted March 20, 2018 07:05 AM
ko ko, there is no logic, man. It's like a fear of spiders or snakes. Liberals hate guns. And, for some reason, they are beyond stupid when it comes to guns. So, the Stupids control the dialogue. How did that happen? I mean they own the label, Assault Weapon and it's impossible to talk them out of it. Same thing with automatic and semi auto, which is just like I said; SAME THING. They don't care to split hairs on something so trivial as semi, and full semi auto. How can we talk to people that flagrantly use dishonestly, wholesale? A very few know the difference but the rest don't know and don't care to know.
Supposed to be a big demonstration this weekend designed to move the emotional fence sitters in the ban direction. These same people that invent infringements on the First Amendment, think that bare minimum, there is no need for the Second Amendment, whatsoever. The way our Lefties think, these days; a little socialism and communism wouldn't hurt us at all. The European model looks better every day now that the Muslims have moved in en masse. How nice, Swedish Police look the other way when blond girls get gang raped and if the newspapers report it, they don't mention who did it. I mean, these people are friggin' nuts! And our Liberals adore the whole thing. They don't need guns over there, so why do we need them here?
One more time, THANK GOD HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Leonard
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posted March 20, 2018 09:11 AM
Hey Dave, what did Claude Dallas have to say?
Inquiring minds want to know. LB
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posted March 20, 2018 09:46 AM
You know, I never heard anything ?
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Wiley E
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posted March 25, 2018 09:33 AM
What disturbs me the most about this rally is that these kids, their supporters, and the liberal media all think they care more about school shootings than anyone who supports the second amendment. How is it that they can be portrayed as caring more about children being killed by guns than those who own guns??
It is going to take some real leadership on our side to rise above the NRA stereotypes and criticisms towards gun defense to find real solutions to ending school shootings.
The obvious first step is going to be tightened security. Our airlines figured that out a long time ago. It is just going to have to be another inconvenience we endure for a greater good.
Why is it that the gun grabbers do not want to disarm the police and/or military because there might be a Timothy McVeigh among them??
So if cops, security guards and our military can be trusted by gun critics to have and use weapons to protect themselves and others from those who would harm our children, why can't those gun critics support armed and trained citizens to protect themselves and our children from school shootings??? Training is training whether it is achieved by the police, by the military, or by a private citizen.
I can't understand the logic that supports guns being used for self protection by certain entities and not by others.
What better weapon to defend yourself from a school shooter who obtained a gun illegally, than a responsible citizen with the same weapon??
As if nobody will ever obtain a weapon illegally.
In a nutshell, their argument is, by default, we don't think citizens can be trusted with guns but cops and our military can be. As if a cop or veteran has never went off the deep end.
I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I can't believe the arguments for gun protection as a means of self defense are so lost within the argument to ban guns.
Where is the protest to support the ability to protect ourselves against those who would threaten our lives with an illegally obtained weapon??
Why can't these gun grabbers realize that you don't need a gun to kill lots of innocent people? Disarming law abiding gun owners only leaves them vulnerable to violence.
The whole argument defies logic and portraying these legitimately concerned children as idiots is not the answer either. They have every right to be concerned but how can they be shown that gun bans are not the solution to the problem but will add to the problem by disarming responsible citizens.
Again, it will take some real leadership here to seize the moral high ground without discrediting people who are hurting and also looking for solutions.
~SH~
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Paul Melching
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posted March 25, 2018 10:37 AM
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These kids are puppets nothing more if one rally was held after school no one would show up! These children are being manipulated by the left who care about nothing but limiting your right to protect yourself! It may take more leadership than we have. You are right about that ! Not to put too fine a point on , it these children were not killed by guns but killed by a lunatic with a gun ! could have been a car or a bomb its not a gun issue!
They want it to be a gun issue if we let them direct the narrative were screwed!
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posted March 25, 2018 10:53 AM
Paul: "They want it to be a gun issue if we let them direct the narrative were screwed!"
Exactly! You summed up my feelings in a single sentence.
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posted March 25, 2018 11:04 AM
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Leonard
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posted March 25, 2018 12:03 PM
The problem is that rational, honest discussion is overwhelmed by illogical emotion. Oh, and BALDFACED LIES.
Every single time we are asked to enter into a dialogue about solutions to the "GUN PROBLEM", we are sucked in and wind up negotiating away our rights, and always it is some solution that has no guarantee that it will work. I call it feel good solutions. On the other hand, good solutions are refuted out of hand with zero proof. Example: arming teachers is a bad idea, because they are untrained and will just increase the number of guns and add to the problem. They offer no proof for their speculating, and of course, virtually all of the Media fail to ask about proof for their claims. However, there are thousands of examples where merely the presence of a firearm stops or prevents violence, robbery, and or murder. You can read about it every month in American Rifleman. Somehow, this message does not get past the folks in the choir?
So, there isn't any pushback on the evil gun. Why is that? Guns should be a positive, not a negative. I don't have an answer to that, but by God, somebody had better come up with the answer! We cannot afford to wring our hands and try to talk sensibly. The radical Left is outshouting us and we had better grow some balls. Dana Loach should not be the only voice and the only one with balls to speak up. It sure as hell isn't Mario Rubio. That idiot freezes up, just like during the debates.. Accuse him of murder because he accepted NRA money and the asshole can't defend himself and he looks guilty. Better if he finds something else to do. I never realized what a cheap suit he actually is.
This question won't go away. We need brainstorming and workable solutions or we are in a lot of trouble.
Good hunting. El Bee
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