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Paul Melching
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posted August 10, 2016 05:38 AM
It's been a long haul but I thru the switch on the solar elec. yesterday and viola it works,Huston we have power off the grid. We camped in our little trailer for a couple of months while things were getting done I hired a contractor to grade the pad and do the septic and another contractor to set and level the house. Everything else was done by myself with help from my son on his weekends he's great with electronic stuff. We have solar power ,propane gas ,hauled water in 2500 gal tank,it's amazing everything works just like it should but no power bill. We are finally on our place no mortgage . Still cancer free and loving life.we will be getting hughesnet Internet and I will be able to be back on the board without using up precious data the new scam lol. Be well talk to you soon.
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Leonard
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posted August 10, 2016 07:12 AM
That's great, Paul. Thanks for the pics. Looks like you have been very busy.
You might be giving koko ideas, who knows? He might like to get off the grid too?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted August 10, 2016 07:56 AM
Off the grid ????
I live in SAFFORD.
Our local Elect. Co-Op is fired by corn cobs and last year's cotton plants.
I have an archery range for a yard. 100 yd. max.
There's quail in my cactus and coyotes up on the hill.
Did I mention that I really like it here ????
Good to hear that Paul's doing well !!!!
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Leonard
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posted August 10, 2016 09:23 AM
Get a grip, koko. I didn't say you have to, I just suggested that you might be tempted.
Safford may well be God's Country, don't know? I think I have never been there, but sounds like I should make it a point to check it out, one day?
I just had a sudden thought; there cannot be a town in AZ that I haven't at least passed through once or twice? Including a few villages, BTW.
What is the population, while I'm pondering this? And, how much would they take for it, in U.S. currency, or Pesos?
That's no shit; corn cobs & last year's cotton plants? Is that legal?
Archery range in the front yard? So the bowling alley is out back, right?
How did you decide, anyway? A dart thrown on the map of the Grand canyon State, blindfolded? Now that I think of it, that might be a good way for me to decide!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted August 10, 2016 11:45 AM
Out back I have a frying pan lid set up as a pellet pistol gong at 40 yards. I can get in a few shots for form while bbq-ing.
Been coming here since the Jan. '84 Javelina season. Liked the area. Liked the town. Liked the locals.
Not sure what the asking price would be for the whole town............a lot of places even have indoor plumbing !!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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DAA
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posted August 10, 2016 01:32 PM
Man... That is GOOD to hear Paul!
Don't hear enough these days that is good to hear.
Thanks for the update!
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Aznative
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posted August 10, 2016 01:50 PM
That sound s real nice Paul, and it is nice to hear from you. I've always wanted to live in the country. Being off the grid would be even better.
How do you get along with all the Mormons? You are an infidel who doesn't know better so they are nice to you because they wish to save your soul. Being raised in the Church, I believe they wouldn't treat me as good as they do you because I should know better. I'm sure they would get pissed seeing me buy liquor at WalMart.
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DAA
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posted August 10, 2016 02:43 PM
Hell... I'm a fucking atheist living in the center of their stronghold. And they treat me pretty decent for the most part.
There are definitely a few quirks, downsides. But overall it's worth it. They keep it pretty nice around here. I'm willing to put up with a few snobby fukwads here and there for the overall quality of life in a heavily Mormon community.
It ain't like living under the rule of any other Christian power would be any better? They all think they know what's best for everyone. Very much like liberals in that respect,.
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Dave Allen
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posted August 10, 2016 05:56 PM
Very good Paul !! I'm happy for ya dude !!
Koko, I need to google Safford sounds good to me !!
Life is short my friends. Do what ya gotta' do & don't look back.
I just had a beer out my back door. Looked @ my borrowed horses swishing their tails. Goats need to be let out for awhile. I'll go play Pokémon-Goat..Lol
There's a Deere tractor with a hay rake hooked up, about a 125 yards from my house. About a 100 acres of windrowed hay down, waiting to be raked.
In my little world, New Plymouth Idaho. Works for me.
DAA- I deal with Mormon farmers every day. I have no problem with those guys.
[ August 10, 2016, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
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DAA
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posted August 11, 2016 04:30 AM
Yup. They make good neighbors, for the most part, in my experience.
Have a few in my neighborhood that just love to surprise me with baked stuff. I'm a total sucker for fresh baked cookies or brownies and the like. Usually a couple times a month I answer the door and a neighbor just hands me a plate ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) .
- DAA
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Az-Hunter
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posted August 11, 2016 06:41 AM
You done good Paul! Hope you and your wife enjoy the solitude and peace of country life. I know I do, and couldn't hack living in a big city, like rats in a maze every time I hit a mall with the grand kids.
What is the situation on water on your place? to deep or just to high a cost to punch a hole?
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Leonard
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posted August 11, 2016 07:49 AM
Yeah, I wondered about that, myself? Maybe the cost of having water trucked in, versus the drilling, versus what his actual consumption is, maybe that makes it low priority, right now? Could be the water table is way down there? I know a guy that drilled and wound up with water that looked like weak tea, only suitable for flushing toilets. But, I'm betting ol' Paul has it doped out, he's a take charge kind of guy. You might want to put up some cheery curtains for the guest room in my favorite color.
You got guts, Paul! Hope it all works out for you! You certainly deserve a few breaks after all the medical.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted August 11, 2016 08:19 AM
Thanks guys for all the replies and well wishes. Victor the water situation is this we are the flagstone capital of the world watched a guy go thru 330 k of investors money on three separate holes the broke off bits on all three never got thru the stone there is water jus tha nobody's made it yet all our water is pumped from abou 5 miles south of us.
I don't care about any religious affiliation treat me right you will get the Same. I have many Mormon friends and some family members good folks all.
Going into town like Prescott of Flagstaff is a pain in the ass and let's me see clearly why I chose to live out hear. Still have to go to the valley to the Cancer center on ocassion can't fucking wait. All the folks in the city have me first attitude about everything from the highway to the market isle sheesh life to short for that shit. Hughesnet coming tomorrow. Wi fi woo hoo!
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Leonard
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posted August 11, 2016 08:53 AM
Be careful walking around, don't be bumping into flagpoles!
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Aznative
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posted August 11, 2016 11:27 AM
Don't get me wrong, I get along with most Mormons. The ones that I have the most trouble with I'm related to.
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posted August 11, 2016 11:45 AM
Let us know how that hughes net works for you Paul.
Considering it for our place in Nevada. If it worked well enough there, I could actually move over there when my kids are done with school.
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Leonard
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posted August 11, 2016 01:19 PM
That Caliente house on the hill is pretty nice, Dave. Some great hunting country and it's an awesome little town.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted August 11, 2016 01:54 PM
Dave Allen;
I brag up Safford a lot but in truth it's just a small town............. but it's MY small town and I really like it for a lot of the same reasons that Paul just covered.
Paul;
Quit gloating over access to inter-net porn and go cut some firewood.
You gonna need it !!!!
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Dave Allen
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posted August 11, 2016 07:38 PM
Koko-Mojo
Finally got around to Safford. Looks like a fine area to me !! some of the google photos had snow on the mountains & stuff. Very nice !!
In the meantime. I'll keep mixing it up with Mormons & Mennonites in my town..
Also, It's not like, I live in the middle of nowhere. It's nice though. My place of work is outside of town & I live outside of town.
I can easily go a week without being in city limits any where.
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Leonard
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posted August 12, 2016 08:10 AM
First, I apologize if a Mormon reads what I have to say and is offended. My CPA is Mormon and I always say, if you can't find a jew, a Mormon also is sure to know the ins and outs of money.
Other than that, I always thought their religion seemed illogical? Generally, if you find somebody that is talking to God, well, you figure they are probably a little nuts. It's different when the principles are walking around in robes and sandals, for some reason?
What I find a little off-putting is the household inspections, you know, to make sure that you have stored enough water, Postum and Rykrisp. From my angle, it seems like you can't sluff off and get away with anything, you must conform. There is also some odd things about old ladies in the church services that will wash another woman's body for some unknown reason? Then there is the stand in baptisms for the folks that died a hundred years ago. The other thing people always wonder about is the "Magic Underwear".
They have never been able to explain that ambush and killing (like) a hundred people that were passing through the area and the coverup that is still ongoing and the recent opening of the faith to black people. And, all those "Polygamists" that will tell you that they are Mormon but the mainstream people have cleaned up their act. And, explain Colorado City to me? It sounds like a cult....you know?
Okay, nothing serious, but a few of those issues can cause a reasonable man to wonder? You know?
Other than that, they seem decent upstanding citizens, except for the secret rituals and the rules. Oh, and forget unemployment. They will get you a job. I have never understood how the Polygamists manage to feed 6 wives and 20 children?
All in all, it's a little difficult to understand who they are and what they do. My old girlfriend, who lived in Idaho around a lot of Mormons claimed the were extreme clannish and deceitful. She never explained what she meant, but she was very negative, said that non believers never get a fair shake. That's all rumor, but the whole thing is a bit weird.
The General Manager of the business where I worked sponsored a guy at the plant who had declined to go on a "Mission" which is actually unheard of. I think you never recover from the stigma?
Anyway, if it sounds like I'm anti-Mormon, I'm really not, but I am curious about their closed society and they are not very accommodating on that issue. Like, you will never actually get into their church and the men are all "bishops" or something? I have the impression that females occupy a lower rung on the status ladder?
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted August 12, 2016 08:42 AM
I got hughes net several years back on a deal for rural areas that can't get high speed.
Only problems I've had is heavy rains or snow on the dish.
I pay $39.00 a month. Never had it shut off for over usage. They may have slowed it down but doesn't seem to bother me.
Composting toilet will help cut water usage down.
Living on a lookout for 30 some odd seasons and being in a hunting camp most of the time. We've learned to cut water usage big time.
Good luck Paul sounds like a nice area.
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Dave Allen
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posted August 13, 2016 09:48 AM
Those are fair questions Leonard. I've wondered the same myself & don't know ? Maybe there is secret weird shit ?
I have heard about the clannish clicky stuff also. Hear about it all the time in the nearby Fruitland school system. My wife went to school there, that's part of why we didn't move here years ago.
Maybe my comments are & have been based on dealing with another breed of Mormons ?
These guys are fair to me. Understand in farming, I need them & they need me.
The company I work for is owned by a Mormon family. When I moved & began working @ this store, Fruitland. I was warned the store manager is Mormon & about all the Mormons around here.
Nine months in, no problem. The store manager, from what I hear, used to be a Bishop. His ex-son in law, yeah that's right is a salesman here. Both two of the nicest guys, I've worked around.
When I moved the deal was same pay benefits ect. I had to take on some extra debt to finance my country estate..Lol
Well, I'll be damned my Mormon boss gave me a raise three weeks ago, then gave me another last week. Go figure ?
I don't make big money doing what I do. But, several thousand more a year. I'll take it.
I'll say again. I have no problem with 'em.
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Leonard
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posted August 13, 2016 10:17 AM
Really, I don't have a problem, either. Except all the obvious weirdities. (spell checker says that's not a word)
But, as I said, my CPA is a Mormon and we talk all the time, or at least once a year. He's been ding my taxes for about twenty some years and his uncle ddi before him another 30 years. Maybe the split is 25/25 I don't know?
But, he never cuts me any slack at all, if I can't document something, I don't get it. Period.
He's actually a good guy. What more can you say/ But he's a Mormon and they are a little different. He and his wife were at my wife's funeral. They always used to make little comments about Upland being high rent district since they are in Ontario. I was a little disappointed that they didn't come to the house after the funeral, but never mentioned it. Virtually everybody else did. That's kind of a "tell" right there, you know? No doubt, you aren't one of them.
They are really decent people, hard to find fault, except...
Then there's Dave. Boy is he probably on the radar screen. There is a word that escapes me right now, for folks that deny the faith, kinda like a jack mormon. I have no doubt he knows all the secret handshakes. Then again, they say there are no atheists on their deathbed.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Dave Allen
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posted August 13, 2016 11:05 AM
I understand what you're saying Leonard.
It's interesting my neighbor across the road, with the horses. Is a staunch Mormon. I'll talk to him 2-3 times a week & then not for a month, just depends. He's 74 & keeps talking about going on a mission.
I think that's why he keeps hinting about me getting some of his horses. His wife tells my wife she wants to go on a mission also.
They have talked about renting their place for a year. Guess the kids, ain't interested in taking care of 10 acres..Lol
They have invited us to a camp fire up in the mountains with the church & even to the church on the 4th of July morning for a breakfast. We passed. I don't know ? maybe we'll attend one of these for the hell of it ? Were just not one of them, I guess ?
On the other hand, my other neighbors across the pasture, are Mennonites. We get along great, the kids come over to visit the goats & such.
I notice when they all gather up over there, the ones, I don't know. Wont give me the time of day ? I wave @ 'em & they just stare.
I'm not big into organized religion. Maybe these groups are just good to me, is just because of AG & they kinda sorta need me ?
Whatever though. I'm good..
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Leonard
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posted August 13, 2016 11:40 AM
Looks like you are being evaluated? Fitted for that apron? New blood in town. Float the idea that you are thinking of joining that new swingers club down in Boise. That should do it. lol
Good hunting. El Bee
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