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Aznative
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posted June 15, 2016 05:40 PM
Just heard this on the Michael Savage radio show. BTW: ISA means Internal Security Act which means it could be used against us. This is some scary stuff:
I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, hereby
order:
Section 1. (a) When the President, or the Secretary of State or the Secretary
of the Treasury pursuant to authority delegated by the President and in
accordance with the terms of such delegation, has determined that sanctions
shall be imposed on a person pursuant to ISA, CISADA, or ITRSHRA and
has, in accordance with those authorities, selected one or more of the sanctions
set forth in section 6 of ISA to impose on that person, the Secretary
of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall take the
following actions with respect to the sanctions selected and maintained
by the President, the Secretary of State, or the Secretary of the Treasury:
(i) with respect to section 6(a)(3) of ISA, prohibit any United States financial
institution from making loans or providing credits to the sanctioned person
consistent with that section;
(ii) with respect to section 6(a)(6) of ISA, prohibit any transactions in
foreign exchange that are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
and in which the sanctioned person has any interest;
(iii) with respect to section 6(a)(7) of ISA, prohibit any transfers of credit
or payments between financial institutions or by, through, or to any financial
institution, to the extent that such transfers or payments are subject
to the jurisdiction of the United States and involve any interest of the
sanctioned person;
(iv) with respect to section 6(a)(8) of ISA, block all property and interests
in property that are in the United States, that come within the United
States, or that are or come within the possession or control of any United
States person, including any foreign branch, of the sanctioned person,
and provide that such property and interests in property may not be
transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in;
(v) with respect to section 6(a)(9) of ISA, prohibit any United States
person from investing in or purchasing significant amounts of equity or
debt instruments of a sanctioned person;
(vi) with respect to section 6(a)(11) of ISA, impose on the principal executive
officer or officers, or persons performing similar functions and with
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similar authorities, of a sanctioned person the sanctions described in
sections 6(a)(3), 6(a)(6), (6)(a)(7), 6(a)(8), 6(a)(9), or 6(a)(12) of ISA, as
selected by the President, Secretary of State, or Secretary of the Treasury,
as appropriate; or
(vii) with respect to section 6(a)(12) of ISA, restrict or prohibit imports
of goods, technology, or services, directly or indirectly, into the United
States from the sanctioned person.
There is a whole lot more to it. I just pasted 1 page out of 7. I haven't read the whole thing yet either.
You can go directly to the order at this link:
https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/Documents/2012iranthrea t_eo.pdf
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Cdog911
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posted June 17, 2016 11:45 AM
Is this a the order he is aiming at gun manufacturers and financiers?
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Aznative
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posted June 18, 2016 05:25 AM
No. It is an order that allows the Government to take away everything from a "Sanctioned Person". They can take your money from your bank account, property, stop anyone from doing business with you, and stop anyone from lending you money. The one thing I don't understand is they didn't define a sanctioned person, how a person becomes sanctioned, or the due process involved.
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Cdog911
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posted June 18, 2016 06:25 AM
Because "due process is what's killing us." My question directed their efforts specifically at people within the gun industry. Your explanation pretty much establishes a shotgun approach to that concept, allowing them to go after anyone, for any reason. No due process. No constitutional limitations. No recourse.
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Leonard
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posted June 18, 2016 07:35 AM
Which is similar to the Star Chamber approach to the "No Fly List". Nobody knows the process of how one gets on the list and no one knows if they are on the list until they try to exercise a constitutional right. But, the way to get off the list seems to be murky, as well? A normal American can languish for years trying to get answers, but a Afghani/American is carelessly deleted from a suspicious list almost immediately, despite two trips to Saudi which is a normal thing before one becomes a martyr. Another case where official Washington bends over backwards for Muslims and continues to view with suspicion, devout Christian Chic-fil-A.
This Obama has fucked up the country so bad I wonder if we will ever dig out?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Frank
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posted June 18, 2016 08:03 PM
obama is a muslim nigger. He destabilized the entire middle east so now Europe is being flooded by muslims. It's the end of Europe. And the muslim nigger is trying to do the same with the US.
He is fast tracking Syrian muslims for entry into the US with little background checks. Seems to me he doesn't care much about Americans. Look, obama is a muslim nigger, the biggest piece of shit ever to be president.
I mean, he has to know that some of these refugees are going to commit jihad against Americans. I think if one of these muslims commits jihad against an American then the politicians who let them into this country ought to be charged as complicit to murder - hey, they know dammed well one of these muslims is going to kill an American in the name of Jihad.
We need to vote for Trump because if we don't we'll get Hillary and that means a 550% increase in muslim immigration/refugees coming to America. That is traitorous and complicit to the murder of Americans.
Bottom line is obama is a muslim nigger that don't care about America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hMKRcajYPA
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Aznative
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posted June 19, 2016 03:48 AM
Obama is a smart SOB.He wants chaos and mayhem. This is how he will persuade the American people to give up or guns and liberty in exchange the government will protect us. There will be no privacy in our communications and banking. It wouldn't surprise me if building codes are enacted that required both audio and video recording equipment to be installed every where including our bedrooms. How else can they expect to protect us against muslims, oops Christians.
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Leonard
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posted June 19, 2016 07:03 AM
Doesn't look good, does it?
edit: biggest fuck up in a long time: giving 18 year olds the vote. They are dumb as shit, know nothing, have nothing.
I'm a firm believer in, You should have some skin in the game; and 18 yo are still dependent on their parents for everything. They don't own property, don't pay taxes and most probably don't have a job. They understand nothing except what Liberal teachers spoon feed them about socialism.
Repeal that law!
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Kokopelli
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posted June 19, 2016 08:03 AM
Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but.......
Didn't the Founding Fathers originally set things up so that to be eligible to vote one had to be invested in land or business and have a bit of education ??
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Dave Allen
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posted June 19, 2016 08:23 AM
Frank is right. He says what others are afraid to say. Fuck that shit.
God help us in the up coming months. Barry can free wheel, I'm afraid. Who's gonna' stop him ?
The dipshit Republicans we keep electing ?
Kinda seems like this game is rigged ?
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Leonard
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posted June 19, 2016 09:55 AM
Yes, koko. The problem is being a voter requires some responsibility. How can an 18 year old know a damned thing about really deep stuff like Obamacare or social security. They can vote on an issue without knowing what it is about, and particularly, that they aren't affected by their vote. If they (for instance) owned a house, they might understand something about property taxes. If they were affected by high prescription drug costs, other than medical marijuana, they might understand the issues, other than free stuff.
Even the legality of signing a CONTRACT, I don't know if this has actually changed, but at one time, forget 18, unless a citizen was 25, they actually weren't able to enter into a financially binding contract. That stuff has been watered down, so I'm not sure of how accountable they actually are, legally.
But, my point is, the age of 21 is usually considered as a legal adulthood. I'm not even sure if the credit card companies can even recover from a deadbeat 18 year old? In which case, how smart is it to offer them a line of credit? There are so many things in a teenagers world that limit their perceptions. Like I have said before they know nothing about history; did we ever go to war with France and Germany and Japan? I wouldn't bet the farm that the average teenager cold answer those questions correctly. Therefore, why should they be allowed to vote for a candidate that has a policy favoring one of those countries. Can they correctly identify Paris as one of the countries we fought in the Korean war? I'm telling ya, it is pathertic, how little the average 18 year old actually knows. But they think they know everything, hey, they elected Obama didn't they? I rest my case!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Aznative
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posted June 19, 2016 10:21 AM
The Liberals have gone to great lenghts to dumb down the classroom. The last thing Liberals want is a smart thinking voter right out of high school.
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Dave Allen
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posted June 22, 2016 05:39 AM
Oh, I guess they're not from Syria ? BFD..
These young assholes are from Sudan & Iraq.
http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/families-of-child-assault-suspects-to-be-evicted/25157 0129
(edit) Ship their fuckin' asses back, families & all.
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Frank
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posted June 22, 2016 04:44 PM
The Catholic Ted Kennedy championed the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
This act is what opened the doors of America to muslims.
And now the Pope is at it again telling Europe and America to open our doors even wider.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/22/accompanied-migrants-pope-francis-says-christian-lets-everybody-come/
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posted June 23, 2016 12:17 PM
By Patrick J. Buchanan
If the cliches hold — nothing succeeds like success, the past is prologue — this generation will not likely see an end to the jihadist terror that was on display at Pulse in Orlando on Sunday.
For terrorism has proven to be among the most cost-effective and successful strategies of war that the world has ever seen.
Consider. The 9/11 attacks involved 19 hijackers willing to crash airliners into four buildings: the World Trade Center towers, the Pentagon and the Capitol.
So doing, those 19 altered the foreign policy of the United States.
They drew the world’s last superpower into wars that have bled and almost bankrupted us, broken a president, and left us mired in half a dozen civil and sectarian conflicts with no exit or end in sight.
As a political terrorist, Osama bin Laden rivals Gavrilo Princip, whose assassination of the Austrian archduke set in train the events that led to the Great War that brought on the downfall of the West.
Consider the success of Islamist terror since 9/11.
As Gerry Seib of The Wall Street Journal notes, in the 15 years since then, just 95 Americans have died in jihadist attacks in the U.S.
Yet, one atrocity in Orlando, where 49 were slaughtered, polarized the nation, brought the presidential candidates to savaging one another, and held a national TV audience spellbound for a week.
The whole world is talking about Orlando.
And what did this victory cost the Islamic State?
Zero. What Omar Mateen did suicide bombers do every day in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan, kill dozens of innocent people while shouting “Allahu Akbar!”
Yet compare the returns from this act of Islamist terror in Orlando, to those from similar attacks in Kabul, Baghdad or Damascus.
Any wonder ISIS would implore its followers to strike where they are, inside the U.S., inside Europe, and not come to Syria to die anonymously?
Under siege in Raqqa, Mosul and Fallujah, being bombed and bled as it surrenders the conquered lands of its caliphate, ISIS’ shift in strategy and targeting makes perfect sense.
Consider, now, the triumphs of Islamist terrorism in Europe.
The 2004 Madrid train bombings led to the defeat of a centrist government and rise of a socialist regime that pulled Spanish troops out of Iraq.
The Paris attacks on Charlie Hebdo and the Bataclan theater strengthened the National Front of Marine Le Pen.
The Beslan massacre of school children in North Ossetia in 2004 led to a consolidation of power by Russian strongman Vladimir Putin.
Across Europe, the political impact of Islamist terrorism, though the numbers of dead and wounded have been, measured against the casualties of conventional war, relatively few, has been extraordinary.
Islamist terrorism has helped spawn anti-immigrant parties and “illiberal” regimes. The association of Islamic terror with Muslim immigration and refugees from Syria’s war has helped to drive “Brexit,” the British campaign to secede from the EU.
Islamist attacks have helped propel anti-EU movements and to incite nationalist demands for a recapture of state control of borders and security policy from Brussels.
Obama explains his reluctance to use the term “radical Islamic terror” on his not wishing to validate ISIS’ claim to be the spear point, the fighting arm of the world’s largest religion in fulfilling the mission given to it by Allah — to make the whole world Islamic.
And this is exactly what ISIS has in mind.
By the frequency and ferocity of its attacks, it seeks to displace al-Qaida and other Islamic resistance movements in the eyes of the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, and to be seen by the young as the great liberator of the Islamic world and future conqueror of the West.
The crushing of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria is a necessary but not a sufficient condition of victory in this war, for ISIS is not just an organization but a cause, a movement, an idea.
ISIS believes that by repeatedly wounding and provoking the West, it can reignite a war of civilizations. And though the West is vastly superior in nuclear weapons and conventional arms, economic power and technology, ISIS believes it can gradually drive the West out of the Middle East, as it has already helped to drive the Christians out.
Then, ISIS believes, through mass Muslim migration into a West whose native-born are dying out, Muslims can reoccupy these lands they had almost wholly conquered, until stopped by Charles Martel 14 centuries ago.
For some few Muslims, as we saw at Fort Hood, San Bernardino and Orlando, ISIS offers a dream worth dying for. And as they kill and die for ISIS, they will push America where they are pushing Europe — to the right.
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Leonard
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posted June 23, 2016 08:41 PM
Brexit wins.
Maybe people are waking up. Near as I can tell, Britain voted to leave the European Union mainly because of uncontrolled Muslim immigration. I had a hunch this would happen. Kind of like the Trump situation, people are getting fed up with Liberal solutions.
Good hunting. El Bee
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JP
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posted June 23, 2016 08:54 PM
Not sure if they will leave. It's up to Parliament to actually make the decision. They may act like our congress, doesn't matter what the people want,it's what the politicians want.
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