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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 10:24 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
Since this site seems to have more than it's far share of mature peoples on it.
Any have a torn labrum?
If so what have you done to keep the pain down?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 12:09 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
No clue what that is, but I take morphine sulphate for my spinal stenosis. Hard to find a better solution.

Good hunting. El Bee

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 03:02 PM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, torn cartliege(sp?) of the hip.
I may get there yet but need to keep a clear head, still to young to retire(just tired all the time).
I've also have spine problems. It was all the P.T. training to build the core muscles up that caused the torn labrum(sp?)

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 04:42 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
What's the doctor say ? or is he stingy about dishing out meds ?
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 05:22 PM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
Don't know exactly what it is but when I tore the ligament's in my ankle, rest, ice, compression and elevation (rice) was the only prescription I got. Took about 2 weeks before I could stand on it unsupported but the ice and rest helped more than anything. It can't heal while you're trying to live like it never happened, you'll just keep tearing it as it tries to heal.

6 weeks later I was running again.

You might also look at a sports medicine doc, fancy chiropractors but they might help.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted July 09, 2015 05:59 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
A good orthopedic specialist that works on athletes has been a good help for me on my knee issues and foot issues. "My guy" was referred to me by several people and he's the main doc for the K-State football team so I thought WTF. He's been great. The tear may not heal as a lot of those cartilage injuries simply don't. What I like about my doc is he doesn't like to do surgery until it's the last option, but he's straight up with me about which treatments are going to get me going fastest and with the least amount of disruption to my work and life.

For example, the second time I tore the cartilage ion my left knee, the first dr I had gave me a shot, did an MRI and told me he didn't see anything. I was in excruciating pain and my knee would not support weight. He told me to learn to live with it because "that's just your knee".

Bullshit!

Went to my current guy. HE did an MRI that day. Nothing remarkable. Gave me a shot and told me to call him within 3 days if I wasn't feeling better. At three days, I wasn't, so I did. He asked me to come in so I drove the hour to his office. he checked me out and said that since my knee wasn't supposed to hurt like that, he thought he should get inside and take a look around. Found the cartilage on BOTH SIDES torn to hell. Cleaned it up and it hasn't bothered me in nearly 3 years.

My wife fell and injured her shoulder on the ice. Her dr sent her to my first orthopod. Same thing with her as with me. MRI didn't show anything so he assumed there wasn't an injury. Called my guy. he got her in, did an MRi and it didn't show anything. He gave her a shot, same deal. Three days later she was still in a lot of pain and still all swelled up. Called him and he told her to come in. Said same thing, you shouldn't hurt this much and we should get in there and look around. Post-op we learned that two MRI's missed a torn ligament, damaged bursa, torn rotator cuff and a small muscle tear.

Moral to the story? Treat the patient, not the technology.

I would start there. If a good orthopod says steroid shots or physical therapy or bed rest or surgery, he's probably steering you the right direction.

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 10, 2015 08:08 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
I've seen a specialist. They did do a nerve block and it lasted a month, felt great while it worked.
Now I eat tramadol pain pills like candy and use a lot of ice. But kind of hard to get the ice into the crease of the hip/groin area. It's also shooting pain into the top of the buttocks and down the to the knee and into the shin. It's the pain that never quits that is wearing me down. Can only sit for so long and stand for so long and can never get comfortable at work(fire lookout).
My regular MD is working on possible another MRI with the dye. I had also pulled the groin muscles into the inner thigh in May. Maybe I should just wack everything off and grow another body.lol
Already have a new knee 5 years ago and it went great. Just need back surgery and shoulder surgery and now hip surgery. Waiting on a new doctor to arrive that just does aurthorscopic (sp?) surgery he's suppose to arrive in Aug/Sept into Boise. Just going to be a long couple of months.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted July 10, 2015 05:44 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
I've had everything fixed arthroscopically for some time now. Much better than going all in. Tramadol doesn't do much for me but for those it helps, it helps a lot.

My orthopod is just keeping me together to put off that total knee. I'm hoping I can keep it working until stem cell therapy becomes affordable for regular people. A bunch of years ago, they developed a new treatment where they can repair damaged cartilage and synovial tissue by drawing out bone marrow and using that to cultivate your own stem cells in a lab. When that's ready to go, they go in with a scope and clean up any torn and feathered cartilage, followed by injecting the stem cell cultures into the area of the damage. Those stem cells then go in, recognize the trauma and damage and go to work rebuilding what was removed until you end up with a normal cartilage, just like new. used to have to go to KC to even talk to anyone about that. Now they have a privately owned center in Manhattan, Ks - less than an hour away - that does this, but insurance doesn't cover it yet.

Good luck with all that, earthwalker. Sounds like you are one tough hombre.

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 04:43 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
I use to be tough. Think I'm losing ground now a days. Doc says I'm fairly tough to endure this kind of pain.
My husband likes to tease me and calls me a wimp but he knows better.
Have a great day gents.

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 11:32 AM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
You're a gal ? EW..Doesn't make any difference to me.

What kinda rifle do ya shoot ?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 12:00 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
If I changed her custom title, to something gender specific, would that help, Dave?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: wouldn't that be a cool job, fire lookout in some tower miles off the road?

[ July 11, 2015, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 12:18 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Boy, you know more than me LB.

Yeah that indeed might be a cool job ? Two years ago we climbed up to the top, of a lookout tower. I think it's called Carey Dome ? Rode our 4-wheelers up there. (edit) got a tour actually from a real nice guy. His wife had just got there when we did. Fantastic views of the Seven Devils Mountains and such. Really cool !!

It was out of Burgdorf Idaho.

[ July 11, 2015, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 12:37 PM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
What kind of rifle? What ya want me to shoot?
Deer use to use a Weatherby .270, now shoot a Tikka T3 .243. Elk the .270 or a 308. Coyotes 22.250, Tikka T3 .204,R-15 .204, .223. Bears I like my old 30.30 lever action. Shotguns .20 ga,12 ga. going backwards now getting back into .410s.

I wish I was miles away from the world. Urban lookout.
My cousin worked Carey Dome many many moons ago.
Family is from Warren came there in the 30's.

And yes I'm a gal, LB new that.

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 01:00 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Very Impressive !!

Can you give us a first name to call you by ?

I wish, I could get my gal's into hunting and shooting. Yeah, I've tried. I'll tell ya though they get pretty damn feisty when it comes to anti hunters though. They will get up into somebody's grille real quick !!

I'm normally a desert guy. Owyhee-Malheur-Harney county. We rode into Warren as kinda mentioned two years ago, and went down to the north fork ? I think of the Salmon river.

Had a beer and burger in Warren. 1st time, I'd been there.

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 02:59 PM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
How about Dee or Blondie.

I've spent the last 33 years on the ION desert.
You've probably cussed the trapper down there as we've cussed the callers. lol

It's the South Fork of the Salmon. Spent a lot of summers on the Hettenger(Sp?) ranch. Friends use to operate the ranch and their daughter and I paled around together. They were like my second family. Sure miss those days. The family and friends are all gone now, just the memories remain.

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 07:55 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Nice to meet ya, Dee. Love the ION.
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Icon 1 posted July 11, 2015 08:45 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
"Bears I like my 30-30 lever action."

Obviously a person of skill, experience & sophistication.

EarthBabe; Did you ever longline with a fur buyer around French Glenn ??
I think his name was Driscol ?? Drove a white pick-up.

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 04:25 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
Not with Driscol or Fenchglen
From ID border to McDermit 3 corners to almost the Steens.
Other half is on another lookout out in the Owyhees he is yet to see a coyote in his travels coming and going. Local came up yesterday from JV and he's out and about on the ODOT crew he's yet to see a coyote pup out in the hay fields. Also his wife is saying the same thing. Been 10 years now since the coyote population crash and it isn't getting better. Another very lean year.

White truck? We've drove a lot of different white pickup over the years.

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 06:47 AM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Interesting. I've been whining about the coyote population here for years now.

Yeah your right it's been lean about 10 years now. A guy on another board from Mountain Home say's parvo went thru 'em.

I used to see coyotes in the fields just right down the road from my house here in town.

Dee do you think the Wolves moving in have anything to do with it ?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 06:52 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines; to describe somebody based on their driving a white pick up?

You know what I have always called Phoenix? "The Land of the White Pick Up" but it applies basically to the entire state of Arizona.....and they don't know how to drive. (I just made that part up)

But really, it's like a twist on Henry Ford's comment, they can have any color they want, as long as it's WHITE.

Okay, I'm done.

Good hunting. El Bee

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DanS
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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 08:27 AM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
What is wrong with white LB, I have had several. You're such a hater. I'm just gonna shake it off, shake it off. As far as drivers, I won't mention LA traffic, or driving through OK City.

Corrected my spelling mistake, because I know that kind of stuff is important here.

[ July 12, 2015, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]

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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 08:38 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
My wife picks the vehicle colors with my only input being that mine can't be black. But even that I don't fight too much so my daily driver is black.

But if it were up to me they would all be white.

Had a small tear in shoulder labrum many years ago still acts up if I push it too hard. Hurts like hell.

- DAA

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 10:38 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
WHITE TRUCKS are COOL!

It isn't parvo. It was something that killed the old and young and left the 3-5 yr old's or the core of the population. It's some kind of a parasite but no one has really figured it out.
No wolves in that corner YET. It's all diease (sp?) related on top of 1.5 million acres burnt 10 years ago. Drought prolonged, major loss of prey animals. The perfect storm down there actually all over the west is seeing the same thing on animal populations.Then Vale burnt another 13k acre fire just south of JV last week or so.

Lets see.... mild frontal dislocation Rt shoulder 15 years ago. Scoped 4 times.
Rt knee scoped a couple of times finally had a new knee put in 5 years ago.
Need back surgery, spine L5 sliding off the S1 towards the belly button.
Now hip problems.
It sucks to get old.

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Anyone who has lived a life worth a damn has pain to show for it. But I'll take all the getting old I can get. Not that I expect much.

- DAA

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Icon 1 posted July 12, 2015 12:54 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, thought maybe our paths had crossed at one time.
I used to hunt toward the Hart Mountain Antelope Refuge and down around Fields Ore.
Good times.

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