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CrossJ
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Icon 1 posted June 10, 2015 11:08 AM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150605/stop-obamas-planned-gag-order-on-firearm-related-speech

Another link....

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nra-gun-blogs-videos-web -forums-threatened-by-new-obama-regulation/article/2565762

Further explanation...

http://thefederalist.com/2015/06/10/obamas-gun-spee ch-gag-order-is-retaliation-against-group-that-sued-the-govt-last-month/

[ June 10, 2015, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: CrossJ ]

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted June 10, 2015 04:40 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
As much as I can see this sort of thing happening, I'm seeing a LOT of stuff like this on social media and in emails that you look at and that little voice inside of you is telling you to not believe everything you see, hear or read. This is one of them, like Jade Helm 15. There is just no way for the libs to win with a strategy like this, and because most of us see this, we go to option "B" and blame the Obama administration for trying to pit Americans against Americans in battles over social issues that threaten to divide us. But, what if it was close, but not quite that simple?

Late last week, Glenn Beck reported that the Blaze had found evidence where Russian hackers were deliberately sending misleading information to Americans via social media. By doing this, they were somehow working to create civil unrest in America and an anti-government sentiment. Now, consider this...

What if they're also trying to foment fear amongst civilians by blitzing FB, Twitter, and every other social media site with false information about military exercises that are meant to look benign but are actually covert efforts by the government to circumvent our rights, or by triggering civil disruptions like Ferguson or Baltimore to pit Americans against law enforcement and the state by scaring us into thinking the state is going to drive us all into FEMA camps and closed WalMart stores?

This could easily be accomplished by any nation state or group seeking to compromise the integrity of our nation. Guerilla warfare often amounts to using your enemy's weaknesses as your strength and what better way to cripple us than by exploiting our free, open communications?

The law(s) Geordie sites are disconcerting, but any law is only as good as the ability of the state to enforce it. How in the hell could they possibly stop gun talk? That would literally take millions and millions of personnel just to police it, and that doesn't even begin to address the challenges of prosecuting people.

Let's presume for a second that some action of this sort is taken. To what end? I would be very wary of anyone or any agency doing anything that might have the appearance of attempting to elicit a response from me. In fact, such an action, and such a response, may just be what "they" are looking for. It's called the "Bubba Effect". Unless and until I can se them doing this with my own two eyes, I'm keeping my powder dry and out of sight.

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CrossJ
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Icon 1 posted June 10, 2015 05:52 PM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
To me Lance, this is diferant from any of the conspiracies du jour....and the jade helm hysteria was a credibility killer for those actually trying to call attention to government over reach. And yes, policing "gun talk" would be impossible, but this is an attempt to hinder the only industry that O actually helped out.

The firearm manufacturing industry today has totally changed in the last 25 years with computerized numerical control(CNC). The ability to duplicate parts with incredible consistency is phenomenal. This capability has birthed a new industry of partially completed firearms(born from demand and excessive regulation). This is where Defence Distributed comes in. they have already been subjected to restrictions handed down by an appointed(un elected) bureaucracy. That's my problem with it.

The enforcement is easy.....if its illegal, hold the media vehicle liable. Facebook, Youtube or whoever would probably police their own if it avoided a large punitive fine.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted June 10, 2015 06:08 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Good point. Remember that list of nearly 400 councils, committees, bureaus, agencies, and departments set up within the federal government that are allowed to pass regulatory measures without the issues seeing the floor of either the House or Senate? This is one example. WOTUS is another. How long do you think it will take for people to really get concerned and what will it take to precipitate action?

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CrossJ
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Icon 1 posted June 10, 2015 06:42 PM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
How long do you think it will take for people to really get concerned and what will it take to precipitate action?
I think many are concerned. The problem is on too many fronts and the objections spread too thin. I don't know if its my stage in life, or if things really are worse. It seems like I encounter 'regulation' in almost all aspects of my life now. When i say regulation, I mean the obligatory entity that charges me to perform in some industry or vocation, or punishes me with fines based on regulations formed by an unknown, uninformed panel of 'experts'.

What is it Lb says? Oh yea.....we's fuked!!!!!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted June 11, 2015 09:12 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What this says to me is that Obama is far worse than we ever imagined, and that is saying something!

This asshole really does think that he is King, in addition to always being the smartest guy in the room! Forget "socialist" he's a fucking communist dictator! It's hard to believe an ego this huge, and yet, no talent whatsoever.

This is a cancer created by the Media. We all know an AFFIRMATIVE ACTION Harvard Law Community Organizer never had any prerequisites for the highest office in the land. But, when the Media spoon feeds the low information voter glowing accolades, they respond by checking the "D" box on the ballot.

It's shameful, the damage Liberals have done to the country! Personally, I have a hard time believing there are so many stupid and gullible people in this country? The actual core Liberals aren't that many but they control the message, just like Big brother predicted.

I don't know if we will ever dig out of this mess they have put us in? I do know one thing. If the citizens don't wake up, we will be stuck with another Liberal in 2016 and if that happens, we can kiss our collective asses goodbye.

Might try prayer? Nothing else seems to be working?

The way it is, I don't care if there are two dozen Republicans running, I would throw a dart and vote for any of them, regardless of the views of some folks here that a RINO is no different from a Socialist Democrat. I say it's our last chance, and if all we have left is grasping at straws, I WILL GLADLY DO IT !

You know what? Obama may be considered a God to his constituency, but he says he has another twenty years left, God willing. I think there is more than a remote possibility that somebody somewhere will take him out, within the next twenty years. Lord knows he will have deserved it.

Caveat. My goodness, I sure hope it doesn't happen, of course. But, (no doubt) the bitch has it coming!

Good hunting. El Bee

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DanS
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Icon 1 posted June 11, 2015 06:25 PM      Profile for DanS           Edit/Delete Post 
I would bet we are getting another liberal come 2016, whether he or she is a dem or a rino.

You might want to be careful LB, you might get put in front of one of those secret courts, for a crime they will not tell us about.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted June 11, 2015 09:04 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Dan, read this article and realize first, that Alinski's methods are alive and well in the Liberal world. Second, yes, they would happily twist my words and the Peanut Gallery believes all made up lies. They have no shame.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/419224/real-problem-fake-news?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral

Good hunting. El Bee

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted June 12, 2015 06:43 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
And this, just in. Just when you thought Obama couldn't get any more POLITICALLY CORRECT !

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/curtis-houck/2015/06/12/megyn-kelly-unloads-obama-over-plans-regulate-diversity-neighborhoods

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