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TOM64
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2015 01:03 PM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
We were hit Wednesday and a few smaller tornadoes Thursday and Friday but Saturday was pretty calm here except for the rain. Texas got hit with a few but the rain here cooled the atmosphere enough to deflate the risks of tornadoes. We've had over 10" since Wednesday. Lots of roads and highways flooded, trees uprooted and more called for this week.
Highway 270 going into McAlester.
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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2015 01:33 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
10" is a chit load of rain...

We got 1" at my house, overnight about a week ago, that's darn near as much as we ever get in one shot. And not every year we get even that much at once.

Been a pretty wet, cool spring so far though. Following a record setting dry, warm winter.

I just want it to warm up enough to get some tomatoes planted. Going to be at least a couple more months before I get a decent tomato!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2015 04:21 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
You need to move to The People's Republik, Dave. We have tomatoes in the ground since six weeks ago. The farmers already had the first harvest of strawberries.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 02:43 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I know that an oil pipeline is bad, 'cause o bama said so but could somebody 'splain to me why some of that floodwater couldn't be piped out this way ?? We have empty reservoirs that could take every drop you might care to send.

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TOM64
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 04:24 AM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
That's actually a good idea except those that build the pipeline never want to turn off the faucet.

Oklahoma City has a pipeline running to Atoka lake among other water sources. Right now there's several legal battles over who actually owns the water in our state. OKC will pump Atoka lake down to a mud hole every year.

What most don't know is the injuns own most all water rights in the state.

Water is quickly becoming the new oil.

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 07:30 AM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
This picture appeared on Facebook after being captured by an Ellis, Kansas photographer near Grinnell, in western Kansas.

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Other than the filtering used to get the color scheme, this is supposedly unaltered, although the debris cloud at the ground doesn't look right to me. Never seen on that looks like an explosion. Rather, the dust and debris are uniform around the base of the vortex.

Anyway, this pic just screams "Oz!!!" to me.

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 07:38 AM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
could somebody 'splain to me why some of that floodwater couldn't be piped out this way ??
cost is probably the primary hurdle. And as Tom mentioned, water laws and who owns how much of it would be the next battle.
We had 10" of snow, after a few inches of rain. We've had over half of our annual rain fall in just the last week alone around here.
When I texted a buddy of mine in S.W. KS. to see if their ponds were filling, he texted back, "They're gaining, probably got 2" or 3" in the bottom of them now." [Eek!]

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 08:37 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Hell, I always thought oil was the new water?

Water politics have always been big-big-big, around here.

And, yeah, court battles galore over who owns what - including what falls from the sky. Know some people live at the south end of the valley, keep horses, not allowed to drill a well. Thought they would at least catch what run off they could off their roofs. Ahhhh nope! City, or county, or whoever it is that owns that water shut them down on even that, real quick!

There basically ain't a drop of water within many hundreds of miles of here that somebody won't sue somebody else over if they try to collect or use it in any way. That includes rain catchment, ground water, run off, snow pack, all of it.

Next big battleground is the aquifers. Lawyers already lined up by the hundreds for that one. And I'm an interested party. Have a well that supplies all our water on our place in Nevada and if those Vegas Vultures get their way, they are fixing to stick a giant straw in that aquifer and chances are it won't take too many years before they lower it a good bit. Ranchers in Snake Valley in Utah depend on that water too.

Fortunately, when we had that well drilled, our driller, who lives only a few miles from our place, advised going an extra 100 feet deeper than we really needed to. Drilling caliche, those are some mighty damn e$pen$ive hundred feet... But, he convinced us that for one, the water tasted better at the lower level - and he is right, that well has the best tasting water I've ever had. And for two, and this was years ago, but he was already worried about at that time, California Commies sticking their dicks in that aquifer.

As it turns out, California has mostly had it's ass kicked in court over that water, by the Vegas Vultures, who now seem almost certain to get their dicks up our ass.

They've got the money, so they're going to win. Not any question or doubt about it. Just a matter of time. You only get as much Justice as you can afford in this country and they can afford a helluva lot more Justice than the rural folks can.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 10:55 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have seen evidence of massive drilling in central Nevada going back 3 to 5 years and increasing. That big development north of Vegas on 93 seems pretty lush?

Well, they have exhausted all their Lake Mead water rights and if they intend to keep blowing up perfectly good casinos just to build bigger and more luxurious ones, and expanding the bed capacity of the city, they need to steal the water from somewhere?

Make no mistake, there is a huge aquifer under northern and central Nevada. I don't know if it's part of the Oglala, but that one is systematically and steadily being drained for decades. It could be many more decades to replenish, but that's pretty much a joke.

California has a huge problem and it's seriously exacerbated if not directly caused by environmentalists and insane Democrat policies. I was listening to a chat show the other day claiming that trillions of gallons of water is used in the central valley to grow almonds for export to China, and alfalfa, for export to the Saudi's to feed their racing and show camels.

Then too, there is the shameful discharge out under Golden Gate to protect the Sacramento fucking smelt! Apparently, they only caught ONE fish last year, and that is trillions of gallons, all approved by Babs Boxer and Fairy Jerry. Who said their priorities were out of whack? Just force the citizens to take shorter showers and let their lawns die. If there is ANYTHING Liberals love to do, it's force citizens to do what they want. GODDAMNED CONTROL FREAKS !

Good hunting. El Bee

[ May 11, 2015, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 11:25 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
So...................rather than reduce flooding in the southern states by creating jobs building and maintaining a pipeline to the drought stricken west they would rather have a pissing contest over who owns the rainwater.

Who was it that said "First we need to shoot all of the lawyers" ??

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 11:28 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
BTW; Cool picture, CDude !!!

I would suggest the title 'America After o bama' but somebody might claim that I was racist.

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2015 05:08 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard's right about the northern Nevada aquifer. A farmer came up from Orovada last week to get parts. I asked him about this very subject.

He said some guys came sniffing around about 5 years ago. Now bear with me my heads a little fuzzy from a procedure today. They offered 10k up front non-refundable and a balloon payment in 10 years of either 50 or 100k I can't remember right now.

Anyway he passed and sounded like most maybe all locals did the same. Sounded to sketchy..

However the question begs after a couple tough crop years and somebody comes along with deeper pockets, who knows ?

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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2015 05:45 AM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
much as Dave described is how it is here in CO. also. You so much as catch water from your roof, capture your grey water and re-use, or build a dam of any size without pre-approval, and the wrong people find out about it, they will be comin and a knock-in on your door.
A guy in one of the Denver suburbs got caught a couple years ago. His grass was greener than any of his neighbors. At first, no one caught on because he was seen hand watering, which was allowable at the time. But it turns out the water he was using was grey water that he was capturing then pumping through the garden hose. Turns out, he, like most city dwellers, pay to use the water ONCE, not twice. Once you use the water, down the drain and to the city it goes. He was using it twice, which is a no no around here.
The county I live in has started a study to see just how quickly the aquifers under us are depleting. I know it is, because at my old house, we ran out of water and had to lower our pump another 150 feet. One of the problems around here is that folks move to the country to a place on a well all of a sudden believe that they can use all the water they want to because they know longer have a water bill to remind them of water usage. I see dumb shits watering gardens and lawns at all hours of the day, like there is know tomorrow.
A little factoid here, Colo. is one of only two states that has zero inflowing water source. All waters that flow in this state, are leaving and many states around us have rights to that water.

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Icon 1 posted May 12, 2015 09:28 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
This guy in Denver suburbs; I am betting his neighbors doing the spying are Liberals?

Hell, ain't Denver only one point below NYC on the Liberal meter? Aspen; do they even have a booth for Republican voters?

Everyone dumps on The People's Republik, but it's coming to a town near you!

"Isn't it about time we had a female President"? Isn't it about time another Democrat drove the whole country deeper into the ditch?

And, they just don't get it!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2015 12:20 PM      Profile for Grizz           Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Leonard remember the Sylmar quake? I was 13 there bouts it threw me out of my bed. Grizz

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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2015 07:59 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Welcome to the New HuntmastersBBS.com, Grizz. Glad to have you on board.

Actually, I have known "Grizz" for quite a few years. Former CSVCA club member.

Yeah, that quake was a good one, woke up both me and the wife, neither of us said anything, or even got out of bed; but (you bet) it was a real good one!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Thanks Leonard.

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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2015 05:53 AM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
More tornadoes last night, one just east of me a few miles but the big concern now is flooding. Highways and roads are being shut down all over. I live on a hill so I'm ok. Still I thought this fitting.
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[Big Grin]

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Tornadoes, flooding and daily quakes. Keep yourself on the high ground until you need to dig a hole, Kelly. All this rain has finally gotten us out of the severe drought category.

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Send it to California....we are blowing away in the wind.
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what a May, huh? Around my parts we've had 22 days of the 25 under average temps. and I don't think we've had more than 2 or 3 days that we didn't get measurable rain.
Hope all's well with everyone down in Okie land and TX. Sounds really bad down that way.

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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2015 06:54 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, we need equity, fairness, etc. Barry wants to do something about this GLOBAL WA...I mean "Climate Change". About time he got started stopping the ocean's rise and all that inclement weather, especially for those folks in Oklahoma. It's such a small state! Texas can take care of itself. Equity. Give back. Texas don't need that pan handle, Obama can easily sign an executive order turning it over to Oklahoma. Texas needs to do their "fair share", it's the right thing to do!

'course, maybe they don't want it? I dunno? But some peeps here are busy trying to split Kalifornia into six states; which I AM ALL FOR ! Never happen, but / hey, Obama can help with that, he has a pen, and he has a phone!

Don't mind me, my babysitter left the room.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2015 09:17 AM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
Have you ever seen the Texas panhandle? It's like God ran out of ideas.

We've beat our most rain ever in a month by 5" this month alone and another week of rain forecast.

Our wheat crop is doomed, first hay cutting is gone, we're so slow at work I'd stay home but I'm bored after a 3 day weekend of watching it rain.

We've had enough.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2015 02:24 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, but. We have to take short showers, (you know) like on a submarine, get wet, soap down, quick rinse, etc. This will allow Fairy Jerry to save that last Delta Smelt. I get those warm fuzzies when Democrats have an issue they can enforce, so what if it's a measly $500 a day fine.

Next, they are going to force everybody to go solar, even if they have to impose stiff fines...be still, my beating heart! I love it when people can put aside their differences and support mandatory enviro shit.

But, getting back to all that water. The People's Republik has severe drought, while Texas and Oklahoma enjoy lots of precipitation. Hey Barry! Do something about all this unfairness!

Good hunting. El Bee

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