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Topic: Resurgence of the Tomahawk
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cornstalker
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posted April 21, 2015 09:33 PM
I guess it could just be me, but it seems that the tomahawk is enjoying a cultural revitalization. It's like they are popping up everywhere. Tactical tomahawks, bushcraft tomahawks, handcrafted Swiss carbon "Wetterlings".
I even read acclaims that special ops guys were using them in CQB in Iraq.
Hell, you can chop down a tree, gut a deer, and smell the breath of your foe as you vanquish him with a tomahawk. What's not to like?
Seems rather unwieldy and impractical. Even for the guy who packs around way too much shit.
I want one....
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TOM64
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posted April 22, 2015 03:33 AM
I carry a hatchet on the 4 wheeler and one in the truck, both have seen some use. I carry a big Gerber machete type knife with a hook on the end that has seen tons of use, way more useful.
A tomahawk would be a pain to chop down a tree, clear brush or even split kindling. I have no desire to smell my enemies breath and impale him with one, I'd rather use a pistol. I just don't get it.
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Eddie
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posted April 22, 2015 04:39 AM
If you get to looking there's been some type of hatchet-tomahawk used in just about every country for hand to hand combat in the past. Must be something to it, I just don't see it either. I'm with Tom a axe with a 3' handle or a machete.
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cornstalker
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posted April 22, 2015 05:38 AM
It would definitely be a novelty item.
I have one of the little plastic handled Gerber camp axes and it is great for splitting kindling. That's about all I use it for. When I first got it I used it to split the sternum on an elk. All I accomplished was hacking the bone into a line of razor sharp shards. Wrecked the edge on the hatchet too.
Oh yeah, I did execute some chickens with it once. Way too messy. Went quickly back to wringing.
The price that some of these Tomahawks sell for is ridiculous. They look cool, but I ain't gonna buy one. Too impractical.
So this brings up a question. If one is to use a Tomahawk for CQB, does one have to train with it? Set aside the pistol and the knife and train with the hatchet until it becomes a natural extension of the arm? Seems rather silly to me.
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knockemdown
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posted April 22, 2015 06:41 AM
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Leonard
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posted April 22, 2015 07:36 AM
I have this mental image of Mel Gibson being castrated with a tomahawk.
Anyway, I have in one of the side compartments of my truck, three things that have been there for ten years. A shovel, tire cables and a fibreglass handled axe.
Of course, I have other stuff but actually the shovel and axe are a requirement for shooting at our gun range, which is private, but on National Forest Land.
Actually, I think some of these sog type tomahawks are kinda bad ass. Don't know how I have managed this long without one? No, don't expect me to break down and get one.
In the most recent L.L. Bean hunting catalogue, they have a tomahawk type of axe with a hickory handle. It's about $80. It would take forever to chop down a fair size tree, but as the ad points out, the hammer on the back side is useful for pounding tent pegs....while looking bad ass.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted April 22, 2015 07:54 AM
A high `Cool Factor` but in the real world.....not so much.
Maybe sitting around camp throwing one at playing cards on the side of a stump but beyond that there are better tools.
Memo to Paul; Replace horseshoe pits with knife / 'hawk backstops for the Campout.
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Leonard
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posted April 22, 2015 09:15 AM
^ says a guy prone to hurling pointed sticks from some sort of stringed contraption.
But, if "Cool Factor" floats your boat, I am all for it.
No really. Think about it for a minute. Shortly after the contact period began, the natives were highly impressed with steel tomahawks. If you can believe the movies, they didn't use them for chopping down trees, it was understood as a weapon. Then, you put a pipe on the other end, as an "app" and in it's day, it was more popular than an iphone.
I'm not going to argue about the lethality of a tomahawk. If in close quarters, would you rather have a hunting knife or a tomahawk? Never mind, I know the answer.
And, in those days, everybody had one, every indian, Davy Crocket and Daniel Boone. Must have had some sort of utility? That's what some deranged guy used against armed police officers in NYC, and he put a hurtin' on them before taking a bullet.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: I just happened to think about it. Upstairs in my man cave, I have a reproduction tomahawk with a pipe. Hmm?
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knockemdown
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posted April 22, 2015 09:33 AM
Think I'll pass over the 'hawk, in favor of this...
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Leonard
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posted April 22, 2015 10:09 AM
I've seen both The Flying Guillotine and Kill Bill. I am unsure which is more believable?
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted April 22, 2015 10:42 AM
ho-lee-chit, Leonard! Just had a flashback to my youth...I remember watching that movie on a Saturday afternoon. Crazy flick, surely it's on utube...
YEP here it is!
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TOM64
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posted April 22, 2015 04:07 PM
I'm pretty sure the design and draw of a tomahawk is the balance and light weight when used in a fight when you done shot all your pointed sticks. Chopping down a tree with one I'm sure never crossed their minds. (Speaking of Injuns of course)
My ex was an injun and her dad collected lot's of arrowheads along with flint knives and other tools. He did have a real tomahawk head that he affixed to a deer leg bone, wrapped in leather and stuck a feather on it. It was cool but you wasn't cutting down no trees with it.
I did find a head that resembled an axe but was more blunt on each end. He said it was for bashing heads.
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posted April 22, 2015 04:14 PM
I would be glad to have one if I was out of magazines. That is all.
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Leonard
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posted April 23, 2015 05:36 AM
Magazines? Please explain?
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cornstalker
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posted April 23, 2015 07:54 AM
I think he is talking about magazines for his Springfield XD.
Just guessin' though.
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Kokopelli
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posted April 23, 2015 08:19 AM
"Says a guy prone to hurling pointed sticks from some sort of stringed contraption."
Uh, El Bee..........
The Damon Howat Super Diablo with it's elegant recurved limbs and clean lines is most certainly NOT some sort of stringed contraption !!!!!
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Form, function and craftsmanship make it a thing of beauty to those with the skill to master it.
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Leonard
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posted April 23, 2015 09:04 AM
Objection noted, koko.
There was no intent to offend.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted April 23, 2015 12:02 PM
Thank you.
My stringed contraptions all feel better now.
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Big tournament coming up in a couple of weeks at Simi Valley. Can't wait !!!!!!
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posted April 23, 2015 03:44 PM
Yes, yes, Chad is correct. Not the reading kind.
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Cdog911
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posted April 23, 2015 04:40 PM
Love SOG shit. Don't have a hatchet/ tomahawk, but I do have a SOG Kukri knife and yes, it is bad ass. Kinda like a short machete on crack. Razor-assed sharp. Use it for clearing brush. Don't know if it requires any training, but I'm betting if you came at me with nothing but your hands, you and I would both get learned up really quickly. LOL
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posted April 24, 2015 06:21 AM
Chad,
If you don't have a tomahawk your completely unprepared for the coming zombie apocalypse!
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DarbinCo
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posted April 24, 2015 06:26 AM
Holy shit.. I just googled those!
450 bucks..... Yikes!
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Leonard
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posted April 24, 2015 06:26 AM
Yeah Lance. Don't forget, every time you remove it from your scabbard, you must draw blood, even if it is your own. I always wondered what those little notches were for, close to the handle? Anyway, it's probably 75% show, makes you look really smart. When you get right down to it, they are very heavy, Aside from intimidating, what can you really do with it, other than cut some bush? lol
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted April 24, 2015 08:25 AM
Good ol' fashion zombie protection here at the shop. They work equally well on crackheads & other street talent...
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Lone Howl
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posted April 24, 2015 09:49 AM
I have been told, by a couple military buddies, that you get a lot of respect (from the local population) if you are carrying one of those on your hip over in ragheadville.
Comes in handy for busting out car windows, flattening tires, and other cool shit.
Cant imagine it being comfortable to carry much though?
Mark
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