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Cdog911
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posted March 17, 2015 04:40 PM
Just a few weeks ago, the Kansas Senate approved constitutional carry and sent the measure on to the House where it saw debate this past Friday in the Federal and State Affairs Committee. That same committee approved the measure today and the measure goes on to the full House where it is expected to pass!
I just hope it gets to the governor's desk and he gets it signed before the lynch mobs bearing pitchforks and torches over the school finance issue string him up.
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Leonard
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posted March 17, 2015 05:14 PM
Much better off than I, my friend.
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posted March 17, 2015 07:01 PM
Do you have room for a desert rat from Az?
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Cdog911
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posted March 18, 2015 04:42 PM
Always room for more good folk in Kansas. I guess WV approved it yesterday so they're ahead of us. Lots of debate as to the good and bad of this. The bad stuff is illogical and the good stuff can't get any traction with the libs in the state. Thank God there is only a few.
Times are changin'.
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Cdog911
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posted March 25, 2015 04:51 PM
Constitutional carry passed the Kansas House today. Goes back to the Senate to approve a small but dandy change made by the House that would prohibit additional taxing, at any level, of gun purchases in Kansas. Then, to the Governor's desk for his signature!!!!
Was so confident that this would come to pass that I bought this just to be ready...
Lovin' Kansas
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Cdog911
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posted March 26, 2015 02:58 PM
Awaiting Gov's signature. Woohoo!!!
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Leonard
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posted March 26, 2015 03:27 PM
Is that an American firearm?
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Cdog911
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posted March 26, 2015 04:23 PM
Nope. Walthers
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Dave Allen
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posted March 26, 2015 05:06 PM
Kansas rocks dude !!
PS: I'm a closet K-State football fan.
The exception being of course when they played the Ducks a few years ago.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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4949shooter
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posted March 28, 2015 02:41 PM
PPQ Lance?
If it is, I shot one a while back. Great shooting guns..
Edit: DR...I see that it is actually a PPX.
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posted March 28, 2015 03:21 PM
Wyoming instituted the same a couple years ago. But we always are on the cutting edge.
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Paul Melching
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posted March 29, 2015 03:21 AM
Congrats Kansas!
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Leonard
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posted March 29, 2015 06:56 AM
Here I am, camped out in the beautiful, progressive People's Republic, learning that those folks in Flyover Country know what's good for them. I just moved Kansas up to number #36 on my list of the perfect states in which to retire.
(just kidding, Lance. I'm envious)
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cdog911
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posted March 29, 2015 08:33 AM
Saw that recently, Cal, and there haven't been waves of violence and gun fights, have there? LOL
Yeah, Tim. PPX.
I live in a very quiet little neighborhood that may not be the nicest and fanciest homes in Abilene, but you can see them from my back deck. Nice mix of young couples, middle agers like Lisa and me, and retirees. Very common to see people out walking in the evenings, and everyone says hi when they go by if you're out in the yard, and we keep an eye out for one another. Last night, I received some news that just makes you change your stance a bit and this law change is only a plus for that.
Seems that a half block away from me, a new family moved in. PD has very quietly spilled the beans that the guy was convicted of shooting two white people (he's black) and one of them died. He's on parole and allegedly a former gangbanger.
Now, as a matter of practicality, there must be more to the story - assuming it's true - if the guy isn't rotting in prison somewhere, so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt here until I know for a fact that shit ain't right. And, if the guy's past is fact and his being here is a part of him getting his life right, then I'm all for that and see the value of being part of making them feel comfortable and welcome in our little enclave.
Then again, I'm not stupid.
Switched out all the FMJ rounds in both my 9mm's to 115 grain FTX Hornady Critical Defense rounds, 5 mags, 60 rounds total between the two guns, and replaced the two 20-rnd polymags of 55-grain Vmax hunting rounds in the AR with four 30-rnd mags of 55-grn FMJ, along with 25 rounds of 3-inch #4 buckshot for the Winny 12 gauge I cut down to 18.5 inches for a home defense scatter gun, just in case. I have a lot of "fire extinguishers".
Do I expect to need any of this? Hell no, but I'm ready just in case any of his former buddies come to "da 'hood". I'm not worried about him. "They" are another matter altogether. Even the PD admitted to us that they know the situation - if there is a situation - will likely be handled in this neighborhood, between myself, Kevin, and a couple other good neighbors. LOL
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Leonard
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posted March 29, 2015 09:00 AM
You must assume that most people live in decent, main line communities. I have to assume "some" of my neighbors are fucking Liberals, but not many. This area, the "West End" of San Bernardino County is decidedly conservative and elects a lot of Republicans. So, that is different from Los Angeles and San Francisco. They have a nice mix of minorities and Liberals, ex-cons, etc.
In fact, the whole inland area of California is conservative, believe it or not? But, we are still outnumbered.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted March 29, 2015 12:01 PM
El Bee;
It's that I-5 corridor. There's something in the concrete that they used to build that road that causes mental illness, a symptom of which is Liberalism.
Look at Calif.
Right thinking people inland, away from the freeway. Liberals in San Diego, Los Angles & The Gay Bay run the state.
Oregon.
Serious Rednecks inland. Portland & Salem .......liberals due to something even the rain can't wash out of that concrete.
Washington.
Same as Ore. Eastern Wash, which is actually Western Idaho has cowboys & loggers. Along the I-5 Corridor, liberal Seattle & Oly run the state.
I'm telling ya..........an investigation is needed.
Prove me wrong !!!!!
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Fur_n_Dirt
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posted March 29, 2015 12:48 PM
I wish my glock has a rail.. I want to put a laser/ light like your pistol.. It's a gen 2
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Dave Allen
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posted March 29, 2015 03:01 PM
What the hell is it with that I-5 corridor as Koko mentioned ?
Get in central/eastern Oregon-Washington. Flat bed pickups, cowboy hats, John Deere caps, about as redneck as you can get.
As far as the Northwest goes. Idaho should extend to the Cascade mountains..
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Paul Melching
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posted March 30, 2015 02:18 AM
One must be employed to pour and finish concrete steel etc. I think that's where this corridor comes from.
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posted April 01, 2015 12:25 PM
Governor signs the bill tomorrow afternoon, and it becomes effective July 1!
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Kokopelli
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posted April 01, 2015 01:37 PM
So, will this be open carry or concealed only ??
We have either here in Arizona. Seemed a little weird seeing someone standing in line at the bank with a .45 on their hip, at first. Now...... it's no big deal. There's one diner in town that has `No open Carry` Posted. Concealed is still fine there.
As far as I know, there have been zero problems anywhere with those people who carry.
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Cdog911
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posted April 01, 2015 03:02 PM
This "new law" is actually an amendment to an existing law in Kansas that provided initially for concealed carry by anyone who was 21 or older, had no felony or domestic violence convictions, and is a resident of the state of Kansas. Initially, this law meant you were eligible to take the CCW course and submit your information and money to the Attorney General for approval to carry concealed. As of July 1, this amendment will make it legal for anyone who meets the aforementioned criteria to carry - open or concealed - without any permit.
Now, here is the fly in the ointment that was brought to my attention this week. There is a federal law called the Gun Free School Zone Act (GFSZA) that says it is illegal for anyone who does not have a CCW permit issued by the state to have an uncased, loaded firearm within 1,000 feet of any school - private or public - in (your state here). I live one block from a K-1 primary school. The fact that I pull out of my driveway with a loaded gun in my truck effectively means I may be breaking a federal law.
There is a similar law in Kansas that makes it illegal to possess illegal drugs within 1,000 feet of any school, and that number is used because it is quite difficult, in any community, to find a single place to stand where you are outside that 1,000 foot distance. Therefore, under the GFSZA, if you're in town, you're within 1k feet of a school, and thus, if you do not have a CCW, you're a felon.
I have contacted the Kansas State Rifle Association and asked for them to clarify this information. They advised me that they would be issuing an email to everyone on their email list as soon as the bill was signed into law addressing this and several other concerns.
The following currently appears on their website in the FAQ's section:
How does this affect carrying concealed in a school zone?
ANSWER: The provision in federal law that allows concealed carry in school zones is based upon having a concealed carry permit from their state of residence and that state having no
prohibition on licensee’s carrying. The KS Attorney General ruled on this issue regarding Open Carry, which requires no license, and advised that you cannot Open Carry a loaded firearm in a school zone. The same will apply to Constitutional (Permitless) Carry. In Federal law, Title 18 USC Section 922(q) is the code that contains Authored by
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the Gun Free School Zone Act of 1995, which prohibits the possession of a firearm in a
“school zone”. A school zone is defined as the grounds of a public, parochial or private
elementary or secondary school and encompasses 1,000 feet of the grounds
surrounding the school. The ban on firearm possession does not apply to private
property that may be within that 1,000 feet but not part of the school property.
If this is true, then carrying on private property not belonging to the school is not a problem. what this does not address is carrying on your person, concealed, while traversing public roads adjacent to school grounds.
Have you heard anything on this, Tim?
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posted April 01, 2015 04:15 PM
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The ban on firearm possession does not apply to private
property that may be within that 1,000 feet but not part of the school property.
In Colorado, your vehicle is private property and is an extension of your home. (for now) Is there a clause in KS for possession in a vehicle that you can skate by on?
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Leonard
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posted April 01, 2015 05:12 PM
I seem to recall that the 1000 yard deal is subject to review? Something like, how the hell is everyone to know exactly where every Little House On The Prairie School House is? Perhaps it should be a warning posted?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Cdog911
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posted April 01, 2015 06:21 PM
There is some info out there about efforts to repeal the GFSZA.
Interesting point, cornstalker. Something to consider. At the same time, there's always the question of just when and under what circumstances would this clause be enforced? As long as you handle yourself responsibly, I don't see it being an issue with our local LEO's until and unless you make it one by being stupid.
Just thinking about this illustrates the huge cultural differences between where I live and so many other places in America today. Most of my buddies have a gun in their possession nearly every time I see them. They're either carrying an AR, another long gun, a handgun on their hip, or a half-dozen different guns and knives in their pickup. Guns are something we pay no more attention to than a wristwatch on their wrist, or whether they're wearing a ball cap today. I just don't even notice it. yet, our "normal" would freak the living shit out of a lot of people.
People can make fun of us here in flyover country, but I prefer bass ackwards over enlightened.
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