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posted March 25, 2015 07:40 AM
RENO, Nev. (AP) — Nevada wildlife commissioners have rejected a proposal to ban coyote hunting contests, despite opposition from wildlife advocates who branded the events as “killing for kicks.”
The Nevada Wildlife Commission voted 7-1 on Friday to deny a petition intended to end a practice that awards cash and other prizes to hunters who kill the most coyotes.
- See more at: http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/articles/5684-proposal-to-ban-coyote-hunting-contests-in-nevada-rejected#sthash.URwougce.dpuf
We win one, but if we continue with all the visibility and public interaction , can we continue.
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Leonard
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posted March 25, 2015 11:25 AM
No. Because all the opposition has is morality, the Disney morality, but these people are passionate. They actually equate human life to bunnies and deer. They either get their protein wrapped in cellophane or even better, are Vegans, so the; "eat what you kill" slogan doesn't work on them.
These people have always had cell phones and I-pods, the electronic world relates, guns have only one purpose, to kill people, not even animals, which is disgusting. And, on that level, killing a human is moderately understandable, but not God's creatures! For sport? They don't even have to think about it, perhaps the death penalty is called for?
In other words, the "civilized world" cannot tolerate blood sport, at any level. Democracy is a concept not throughly understood. For instance, they want people fined and in-prisoned for openly disagreeing with CLIMATE CHANGE. You know, dangerous ideas need to be suppressed.
They can't define "socialism" but that's what they are. The concept is the majority bullying the minority, and they see no problem with that. Force everybody to act and think as they do; it's so logical, (for a Klingon) And, laughable.
Anyway, we probably cannot win, the way things are these days? The Democrats are against us, the Media is against us. Most of main street is at best, indifferent. And, we are a minority. For all their noble theories, the public really doesn't like minority anything. I'm thinking two generations, max. Gone. <sigh>
Good hunting. El Bee
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DAA
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posted March 25, 2015 12:12 PM
I think two generations is astoundingly optimistic.
Individual states will vary greatly. Texas, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, maybe Idaho (but maybe not...) will hold out longer than the rest. But I think two decades, would be optimistic, for most of them.
Contest hunting is totally doomed. No hope for long term survival. None. With, the possible exception of Texas. Being all private property and totally up front and blatant about money=access to the process, they could be the one exception. Or not. But it will be all about the money. For most of us, it won't matter, at that point.
I give Colorado and Arizona well less than two decades though. Well less. Not a prediction, just a comment, but I'd not be surprised to see either or both fold within five years. Colorado, especially.
Two generations though, it's doubtful that gun ownership and hunting will be anything but rich mans (Very Rich) games. I think it will still exist, but the proletariat won't relate to it at all, two generations from now. It will be like playing polo, or yacht racing, except more idiosyncratic. Space travel vacations will probably be more common, than hunting, in two generations. Regular folks will be priced right the fuck out though.
- DAA
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posted March 25, 2015 01:29 PM
I'm going to have to agree with DAA. I lived in Utah and watched both the quality and opportunity to hunt deteriorate at a rapid rate over the 20 years I lived there. Now I've been in Montana a little over 20 years and I'm seeing the same thing happen here. It might take a little longer than 20 years to become a rich man's sport, but it won't be much longer. As for any kind of hunting contest I'd be willing to bet they will be gone within 10 years.
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posted March 25, 2015 03:02 PM
Wish it weren't so easy to agree with Dave, but once again he delivers sobering reality.
Fuck, I don't even like to think about that kinda shit, the future is such a total buzzkill!!!
All the more reason to build rifles & shoot em & kill critters while we can...
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posted March 25, 2015 04:26 PM
Dave is a realistic visionary on this matter, it's just one of those things that we can't "save the future for our children" ideas.
The best I can say about the matter is; we've seen the best of it fellas, Ive loved the outdoors, hunting, shooting, all of it, but it's days are numbered sadly.
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Leonard
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posted March 25, 2015 05:14 PM
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I'm thinking two generations, max. Gone. <sigh>
And, Dave thinks I'm "astoundingly optimistic."
Well, shit! Give me a break, it was just a WAG.
So, put me down as agreeing with the consensus, which is; we had better enjoy it while we can.
And as one of our senior sages observed above: quote:
we've seen the best of it fellas, Ive loved the outdoors, hunting, shooting, all of it, but it's days are numbered sadly.
Look on the bright side, we really have had it good. At some point, our young-ins will view/equate us as similar to killing off the last of the buffalo. Don't expect admiration or respect. It will be more like: How could you, Grandpa?
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted March 26, 2015 05:30 AM
I'll go along with its going to be a rich mans game to deer hunt. I think that in the next 25 years if your not rich and don't own your own land than your chance to hunt will be slim to none.
As long as there are cow and calf operation going on there will be a need for some kind of predator hunting.
I haven't given up, I take my grandkids to the woods every chance I get, either hunting, trapping or fishing. By the time they get my age they might not have the opportunity to hunt but they will know how it was to hunt.
Just in my life time I seen it go from hunting anybody you asked to having to pay money to hunt your neighbors land.
There's a bright side....Any day above ground is better than being in it!!!
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posted March 26, 2015 05:55 AM
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There's a bright side....Any day above ground is better than being in it!!!
I'll give a great big heaping helping of amen and hallelujah to that!
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Leonard
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posted March 26, 2015 07:00 AM
Yes, look at the bright side. Another day above ground.
I understand the sentiment, but things are getting pathetic.
All because these cardboard people want to outlaw my contests.
That's what's died. Freedom.
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posted March 26, 2015 09:15 AM
Off the subject a bit, but the same minds behind the thinking. I was in Bisbee recently, a small copper mining town where I used to be the Telephone man. Since the mid 70's, it was a haven for what was called Hippies, artsy crafty long hairs etc. In later years it has became a haven for the homosexual crowd, no bashing, just stating the "feel" of the town.
My son and I were in the local Safeway for some groceries. When at the check out, the guy asks me if I want my stuff bagged....I said that would be nice, and he advised me it would be an extra nickel a bag if I wanted them in paper.
I said plastic is fine by me, but he then told me they had outlawed plastic bags in Bisbee and could only use paper, and that was a five cent charge per bag.
It's the feel good mentality baby; if they can feel good about themselves for doing what they deem noble, like no nasty plastic bags, which by the way decompose far quicker than the heavy paper bags, then they are justified.
Therefore; if they do not like to poke holes in things with bullets or sticks, neither should you, all because of course, they are smarter and more sensitive than we are.
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posted March 26, 2015 09:43 AM
there are few things more dangerous than sincere ignorance...
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posted March 26, 2015 10:16 AM
Gotta see my CPA but let me get back to this....
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posted March 26, 2015 10:59 AM
Im waiting. Iphone.
They delayed implimentation in CA. BUT, they are saying plastic bags account for less than 1% of the total trash. Dont know if thats by numbers or volume, but it illustrates how bogus these things are.
Activists get all hot and bothered, want to save the earth by any means possible. Do gooders.
There is no doubt that Liberals have brainwashed our kids while we were too busy to pay a
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posted March 26, 2015 01:08 PM
...while we were too busy to pay attention!
So, the danger here is that these "ACTIVISTS" have discovered that anything is possible with a little dedication. Any left wing radical concept can be IMPOSED on sleepy, can't be bothered citizens.
It's a long time in coming but they don't have anything better to do while we try to counter all their GLOBAL WARMING lies. On that issue, a few people have awakened from their slumber and decided that what the radical fringe wants to do is insane.
We can't close coal fired generators and plug fuking windmills into the network just because it seems like such a good deal. If there was any accountability and honesty, the fraud would be exposed. Simply, it cannot be done without asinine subsidies. How they get away with it, don't ask me but windmills and mirrors are not sustainable. They have shut down nuclear for years, in fact even transmission lines are endlessly tied up in litigation.
Like Keystone. There is no rational reasons for delaying that pipeline except the fact that the Sierra Club is against it on ecological grounds which they can't define? But, big contributions are at stake. And, if anything motivates Obama, it's money.
I don't know what it will take to restore some sanity to the whole political environment? But, if nothing happens, the inmates are in control of the asylum. And, thy name is Liberalism.
Good hunting (yeah right) El Bee
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