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Author Topic: Relocating ?
Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 11:41 AM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
It's a subject that's been discussed frequently by many of us.

So @ what point does a guy just say screw it and do it ?

Change is tough. I guess we all get in our comfort zones to some degree or another ?

Lots of factors come into play. Cost of housing, coyote hunting of course !! Jobs and what kind of work environment can one expect ? Pay ?

I really shouldn't complain too much on my end. Idaho has conservative politics, gun friendly ect.

No offense to anyone.. [Smile] I probably wouldn't even be thinking this way if it wasn't for Kalifornians. It has blown up here the last ten years or so.

I'm spoiled not used to traffic and such. Idaho might have the worst roads in the US, yet they allow people to keep flooding in. Were constantly under road construction. It's getting old my Amigo's.

I yearn for a small town atmosphere, yet, I wonder if it's too much the other way ?

My wife and I both grew up in towns of about 3000 people, farming communities. She's worried about everyone knowing you're business and stuff. I just don't give a shit !! Lol

Anyway, just venting and thinking on a Sunday afternoon.. [Big Grin]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 12:24 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Just look at a map, throw a dart.

The Land Of The Fruits And The Nuts is fucking up neighboring states. Arizona is in denial, but they are having Liberal Creep, bless their hearts. Drive through Oregon, (if you must) and risk road rage when bearing CA plates, and being earnestly flipped off, expect it.

Nevada is getting there, as is New Mexico; perhaps the most Democrat and Liberal of the bunch. I hear Utah is concerned over immigrants, Mexican and Liberal Californians.

And, nowhere are these folks welcome. Apparently, it's impossible to get the stink off'em?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 12:31 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I live near a small town and love it.
A trip to town usually involves running into several different people I know.
Anything that I can't purchase locally, I can get on EBay and UPS delivers it to my door.
I can't even imagine living in Calif. again.
For me, the North Ridge earthquake was a blessing in disguise. Very well disguised at the time, but still a blessing.

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UTcaller
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 12:45 PM      Profile for UTcaller   Email UTcaller         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah this State is being over run with Californians. They sell there homes for a million bucks and move in here and get bigger homes than they had in Cal for half the price. They say they are tired of the rat race down there and all that comes with it. Then they get here and try to change our laws to fit there principles which is why they left California in the first place. Bunch of idiots. Buy big homes on the foothills to get closer to nature then bitch because the deer and elk come down in there neighborhoods in the winter when the snows to deep up high. Again bunch of idiots. Utah is nothing like when I was a kid. Hunted and fished a couple miles from my house. Now its golf courses and Condos. Makes me sick when I have time to reflect on it.

Good Hunting Chad

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 01:47 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Chad nailed it !!

I've met and done business with many Californians that are great folk.

Unfortunately that isn't always the norm. We also deal with lawnmowers @ work. These assholes come up here and buy an acre and stress out about mowing it. Arrogant pricks.

I'd rather deal with a guy who has a $300,000-$400,000 combine trying to make harvest, than those dickheads. Who think we owe them the world for a $300o-$4000 dollar rider.

Expensive yeah I know. Perspective & reality is everything..Kalifornians have no bounds.

Just sayin'

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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 02:36 PM      Profile for Lone Howl   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
All you guys are mean.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 01, 2015 03:15 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What are we going to hate next, when The People's Republik falls into the ocean?

I have had a hard on for Oregon for a long time. It's like a very liberal Kalifornia; only ruder and w/granola.

Good hunting. El Bee

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quote:
What are we going to hate next, when The People's Republik falls into the ocean?
That so many were able to get out alive, that's what.
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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 05:22 AM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
Dave A, remember where ever you move don't live in any kind of a town that has a freeway going through it. There are towns out there but if you're still tied to a full time job things will get tough. Live an hour out of Nampa/Boise area and can't stand what Idaho have become. It started in the 70's and has gotten worse by the minute.
I can remember when the rush hour in Boise lasted less than an hour. Now it's all day long.

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Dave,
You are most welcome here...plenty of coyotes in Kansas, gun friendly, AND we have a great ag economy as well!

Lots of JD dealerships here in Central Kansas. We don't get the snow you guys get in Idaho, but we would make you feel welcome none the less!

[ March 02, 2015, 06:01 AM: Message edited by: booger ]

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Aznative
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 06:55 AM      Profile for Aznative           Edit/Delete Post 
I'm sorry to hear Utah has an immigrant problem. I always thought the Mormons would scare away liberals of all color which made Utah my go to state if I ever left Az. My wife wants to go back to Ohio, but I can't handle that. Wyoming has a lot of private land and getting access is getting expensive. Colorado is way too damn liberal for me with legal pot and same sex marriage. Texas is all private land so that sucks unless you have connections which I don't. How is New Mexico? I've heard it has land access issues?

Maybe we should all combine our resources and buy a ranch in Texas.

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I think Wyoming and Montana will be the last conservative hold outs, or hide outs whichever you prefer. You guys are all welcome and would fit right in. I'm staying. I've spent a lot of time in the Hole in the Wall country where Butch Cassidy and gang hung out. So when the big shit hits the fan you'll know where to find me!

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/181505/mississippi-alabama-louisiana-conservative-states.aspx
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Aznative
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Before simply looking at that Gallup poll and assuming the color chart of the US is correct. You also need to look at the numbers. Arizona is shown to be average. But the numbers for Arizona are 36% conservative, 36% moderate, and 22% liberal. I question the accuracy of this poll when New York state comes in with 29% conservative, 36% moderate, and 28% liberal.

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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 07:57 AM      Profile for Lone Howl   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
Canada? How bout that?

[ March 02, 2015, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 10:00 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Canada; no handguns, socialist, healthcare is slower than molasses in January, has given half the country to native tribes.

Other than that. Alaska is right next door.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 02:31 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
The Hodgdon plant in Herington, Kansas just southeast of me is hiring. Herington has a pop'n of about 5k, old railroad town, and its only recent claim to fame is that Terry Nichols lived there when he helped plan and build the bombing in OKC. Just sayin'...

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Dave Allen
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 05:59 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Ya know, I went across Kansas border to border and Wyoming back in the late 80's all freeway of course.

I liked both states. I thought Kansas kinda had a unique feeling, I liked it. Just too far away from family. Except for my sister (Washington) mine are all in Oregon and the wife's are all here.

I feel bad Mark. On one hand I tell ya to come up, then I post, I want to bail !!

Life..

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Dave Allen
Hi, I'm SUPER DAVE, IN CHARGE OF Q STUFF (and Goat Leader) "I'm really not trying to be a dick".
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 06:18 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Earthwalker, a lot of truth in what you said. I never go to Boise anymore.

I went for our Christmas party in December. I hadn't been there in a few years ?

Anyway it's funny got to work this morning and everyone is bitchin' about all the things discussed in this thread. We have all been here a long time.

1st phone call of the day, some guy calls from Kuna needing parts for his Disk. He starts into this friendly rant about how there's more freeway work that's soon to start in front of our place. You have to sneak around all the back roads, he's sick of it..It never ends, on & on..

Ah' good times..

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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 06:39 PM      Profile for Lone Howl   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
Lol Dave...you had me on the hook! Me and the wife talk about this subject all the time, and have concluded that there is no safe haven anymore. Not sure what the hell to do?
Probly nothing.
Mark

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 06:42 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Name a state that appeals, then consider any drawbacks. Like, take for instance, Wyoming. Looks good, on paper. The wind is always blowing forty miles an hour. I HATE hunting in that kind of wind! If that's the only negative, I still might have to consider it and "learn" how to love hunting coyotes in the friggin' wind.

Kansas is just a non starter. Don't know why, but it "defines" flyover country, for me.

Texas; already been mentioned, no access.

New Yawk? (next)

Okay, so help me out.....

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Dave Allen
Hi, I'm SUPER DAVE, IN CHARGE OF Q STUFF (and Goat Leader) "I'm really not trying to be a dick".
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 07:06 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, here I go..

For me it's Oregon, that's really what it's boiling down to. I know Leonard hates it, I'm really sorry people have been assholes to ya !!

E. Oregon to me is a whole different deal than suck ass liberal western Oregon. Unfortunately the liberal side gets all the voting power !!

You just can't win, can ya ?

Anyway my obsession with Orygun is cuzz, parts of the state remind me of Wyoming, parts are like Nevada other parts like NE remind me of the western Montana Rockies..

Then of course there's the coast if one is so inclined.

Soooo, here's my deal. I'll have to come to grips with or move on and forget about it.

Housing, Idaho has affordable housing if a house wasn't built in the mid late 2000's. I Really think that's a lot of why people move to Idaho.

Even small towns in E. Orygun were I could probably get a job. It will cost me another 50-60k to get my same house here.

Hmmmm...

[ March 02, 2015, 07:10 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

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Just come to AZ and dodge the liberals on your way to the coyote stands!

There's no perfect state, but I would be in Idaho if we weren't happy w/ life and jobs in AZ.. There's just too many hunting/fishing spots up there..

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I recently moved down to Arizona from Alaska. This was mostly from the urging(threats) of the wife, after thity-four years she had enough of the long winters. I certainly miss some aspects of living in Alaska but am getting acclimated to Arizona...so far have even managed to kill a few coyotes and didn't have to freeze my ass off doing it. Regardless of where you move given time it will change and mostly not for the better. Choose wisely.
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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 02, 2015 11:53 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Dave;
Here's an idea................
We convince Leonard to se11 his palatial estate in Calif. and buy the whole town of Fields Or.
Then we can all show up unannounced and have a place to stay. [Smile]

Seriously; lots of public land, coyotes, quail / chucker, decent mule deer bucks, and hot springs near-by.
Good people, too. Nothing like on the coast.

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