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DAA
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Icon 1 posted December 14, 2017 04:45 PM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Fred has his .220 Redline project well under way. He did a write up of progress so far that's posted on my blog. Check it out:

Birth of the .220 Redline

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Icon 1 posted December 15, 2017 09:18 AM      Profile for Lone Howl   Author's Homepage   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
Pretty cool!
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Icon 1 posted December 22, 2017 05:41 AM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Humbled that you'd put that up on your blog, Dave! Sure hope this turns out to be what I expect. If not, at least I tried! That's a big part of the fun, anyway...
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Icon 1 posted December 24, 2017 06:21 PM      Profile for Displayed Name   Email Displayed Name         Edit/Delete Post 
Tim the tool man Taylor roughly said the project is more fun than the result. I’ve found that to mostly hold true. Great work!
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Icon 1 posted March 24, 2018 05:57 PM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
The REDLINE is up and runnin!
Began testing today and will be compiling info for 'Part 2' of Daves blog...

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2018 11:29 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What's the tab on this effort, to date?

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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2018 01:21 PM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm out for a custom reamer, Brux barrel & smith fees to chamber, thread & Cerakote.

Using dies I already have (Redding Type S 7SAUM) and brass & boolits on hand. I did go ahead & order a new McMillan stock, which is the biggest cost, by a long shot...

P.S. got a 75gr JLK going upward of 3950 fps. Those with 'hotrod' .22 calibers will know that is absolutely well beyond BADAZZzzz performance. With a bit of 'dialing in' a load, should be all I'd hoped...and then some!

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Icon 1 posted March 25, 2018 04:38 PM      Profile for Lone Howl   Author's Homepage   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
Fred that crazy good! Congrats.
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Icon 1 posted April 02, 2018 11:01 AM      Profile for Displayed Name   Email Displayed Name         Edit/Delete Post 
3950 with a sleek 75 is cookin! Hold on fur till 450 ish, crazy I love it.

I had guided for a bullet developer around 10 years ago that was working on a .22 hot rod that was supposed to be within 16inches all the way to 600yds with a powder core 60gr bullet. I have no idea how they got along but their bullets in .30 cal were the bomb on wolves. They said it would look like they were hit with a cookie cutter and I swear it did. When I flipped the wolf over after being hit by a 300wsm at 240 ish there was a 3inch perfectly round blood hole going straight down many feet into the snow.

The .22 round was to be an urban tactical cartridge so to get that 16 low at 600 was likely quite high at 300 but still fine for what they wanted it for.

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Icon 1 posted May 03, 2018 05:01 AM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Finally warmed up here, so wanted to see how higher temps affected the RL33 powder I'm testing. Turns out, it is quite sensitive!
Temp was 87, and pressure definitely spiked! Got 4088 fps from a 75 JLK...YIKES! Heavy bolt lift and ejector mark, so that's too much for my liking...
Will ease er back down & hope to settle into a nice safe load in the low-mid 3900s. That'd be just dandy, by my expectations!!!

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Icon 1 posted May 04, 2018 06:37 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Must be new? I've never heard of R33?

My load for the 25'06AI is a lot of R22 and I use 100 grain bullets....almost exclusively. I never noticed any temperature sensitive issues with that one? But then, for some reason, I was dinking around with 75 grain TNT's and bought 8 pounds of Reloader #2700. Boy, is that stuff temperature sensitive! I've still got (like) 7 lbs, somebody make me an offer?

For me, temperature sensitive is seldom an issue, mainly because I don't load hot, in the first place. I like to get at least 10 reloads out of my brass, I treat them with respect, always have my left hand, fingers extended, to knock down ejected cases. I've never understood folks that flip brass all hither and yon, then can't find them, step on them, dented necks. Lots of things happen when you allow that stuff, (premium brass) to fly off in the bushes. Not this kid. I can't even estimate how many hours I have invested in processing, weighing and sorting cases. Some people consider it a chore, pure drudgery, but for me, it's therapy, I enjoy working that stuff with my hands.

My kid's a power tool person. He would fire up an edge trimmer to cut a single blade of grass. There is a place for brute power, nail guns, etc., but I like a hand tool. I get satisfaction in turning necks, chamfering those flash holes, and trimming to length. I can do it all day, and have, countless times. Sorta like, if it's worth doing, let's be careful and do it right. Other people like their Dillons. I'm looking at you, Vic. Of course, I'm not shooting a gazillion rounds every weekend. That's different. But, building precision ammunition is like a work of art, you can't be too careful when launching missiles at critters.

Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted May 07, 2018 06:50 AM      Profile for TRnCO   Email TRnCO         Edit/Delete Post 
3950 with a 75 gr pill. WOW!!!! that'll oughta put the fear of death in some critters WAY out there.
My guess is we will be reading about a long range deer kill in the not too far off future.

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Icon 1 posted May 07, 2018 07:10 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Fred whacked some 'chucks over the weekend with it. He went four for four, with one of those over 500 and another over 700.

Five and seven spins, no sighters, that's quite the debut.

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Icon 1 posted May 09, 2018 02:06 PM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Here's raw video of #1, 195yd chip shot...

VIDEO LINKY

A 75 is HATEFUL @ nearly 4K!

P.S. you can select HD on the video for better res...

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Victim #2, 512yds...
(select 720P HD for playback, btw)

Vid LINKY #2

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Icon 1 posted May 10, 2018 03:43 PM      Profile for Eddie   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Looks like the new gun is a shooter Fred, well done!
We have a few chucks in Oklahoma, wish we had enough to hunt it looks like it would be some fun shooting.

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2018 04:44 AM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Eddie!
Here's chuck #3, shot gettin' long now... [Smile]
did some minor 'slo-mo' editing during the shot

VIDEO LINKY 737yd chuck

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2018 07:54 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Here is Fred's update write up: The .220 Redline Lives!

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Icon 1 posted May 11, 2018 12:09 PM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Dave!
Humbled to be able to share something of interest on your most excellent blog!!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 13, 2018 10:32 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm impressed, Fred. I don't impress easy, BTW. You had an idea and ground it out and it looks effective. Any great need, well, you know me? No offense!

How much freebore are we talking about? I assume you're not seating to the lands? Have you stated a specific application for this rig? Probably not for colony critters? Does it heat up after not very many rounds? It's not fluted, is it?

I'm interested.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted May 14, 2018 12:49 PM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage   Email knockemdown         Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you, Leonard!

Surprisingly, the barrel doesn't heat up real fast? My .17P gets to cooking anfter maybe 3 rounds. But, the REDLINE is barely warm to touch after 3.
I set freebore to have my bullet choices fall within a certain OAL window that allowed land engagement. All pressure testing was done with 'jammed' bullets.

Dunno how fast the throat will wear, but I've taken good measurements with several bullets, so as to reference after xxx #rounds.

Think I'll just roll with the JLKs for a while! I backed them .015" off a hard jam, and they seem to shoot well enough. Just gonna keep an eye on how well the brass holds up...

Honestly, I sure did NOT expect to be running a 75gr bullet at nearly 4K! That's 100fps more than I was hoping for, so consider me VERY happy!

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