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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 04:49 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Caution is needed I had a friend that was six feet off and lost his hunting and trapping privileges for three years . And we are taking the nicest and most honest guy you will ever meet !

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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 05:52 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
I sometimes watch these game cop shows , why is it they can go any where without warrant and check for violations I don't like scumbag poachers any more than the next guy but its always guilty till proven innocent?

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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 06:14 AM      Profile for knockemdown   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I watch those shows on rare occasion, only to be reminded why I don't tune in more...
Regardless of whether the officer is a good ol' boy, or an obvious dickweed, you're exactly right Paul, most everyone confronted is assumed guilty of something...

But to err on the side of the decent officers, I think that has as much, or more to do with the narrative those shows are produced to follow. All it takes to figger that out, is to see what channel the show is on! Ya can't tell me with a straight face that a show on ANIMAL PLANET is gonna give deference to us deplorable bambi killers, do ya??

IMHO, it's just another hit job on US. Now...stating that is NOT to excuse poachers or slobs, it's just that the show sure doesn't go out of its way to delineate who's who. Therefore, we are all cast in the same negative light, by design...

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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 10:43 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
That is particularly true, in my opinion! Those producers have an axe to grind, and they make zero effort to define the difference between the illegal stuff and legitimate hunting and complying with sensible game laws.

That's why I don't watch that shit anymore. It just pisses me off. Whether the perps are intentionally breaking the law or are caught in a misunderstanding of, or ignorance of a certain law. In other words, I think the average viewer comes away thinking that poacher and hunter are interchangeable words with the same meaning.

I'm telling you, I have long been suspicious of the infiltration of state game and fish or department of wildlife. Used to be, the wardens and biologists were fellow travelers, sportsmen and hunters just like me. Not any more. There people seem to be hard core enforcement types, and suspiciously likely to use obviously underhanded methods, sting type shit. I guess regulations are necessary, but that time I witnessed a Fish and Game Captain check about 40 dove hunters almost in a row, and during prime time, and catching a couple of dumb schmucks that forgot to install a plug. That was harassment, in my mind and everybody there felt the same way. In other words, I didn't see anybody shaming the fool, they just thought it was kind of unlucky.

Anymore, I do not greet wardens with anything other than apprehension, like what is this prick going to come up with? I had two wardens search the whole vehicle and camper looking to see if there might be a single 2 3/4" 12 gauge shell somewhere that could be loaded into a short barreled Mossberg 500 that was used as a walk out gun for tracking down cripples and therefore, did not have a plug and didn't use anything except 3" shells and it's hardly a birdgun anyway. But, the intent of these clowns was to find something they could write up, because they already had a hard on for predator hunters.

It doesn't take too many negative encounters with these pricks and you develop an attitude. And, I have others; don't get me started. [Smile]

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 11:56 AM      Profile for Lone Howl   Author's Homepage   Email Lone Howl         Edit/Delete Post 
Ive had 2 similar experiences last couple years regarding coyote hunting with a shotgun. Both turned out well but you have to gently remind them of the regs as they are fixiated on bird hunting when they see a shotgun. In my case, both wardens were pretty cool about it, but one did try to lecture me about the "optics" of what I was doing. I said that I welcome inspection anytime as long as no one had a chip on their shoulder just out to get someone. I know it pissed him off a little but I do think he wanted to be fair...that day. They both looked in the truck to see if I had birds, regardless of pointing out dead coyotes and 3" shells with big ass shot in em.

Ive had some real dicks pull up on me. The worst are the women wardens...they have something to prove.
Mark

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 01:20 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
In response to the above and to clarify what I wrote. Those guys were trying to insert more than 6 shells, which I guess was some type of limit, at least at that time. This gun held 6 rounds comfortably and came tantalizingly close to accepting a 7th. That's why they tried to find a short shell to prove a violation. Anyway, with these days of 20 round magazines, etc. it might be a mute point, but they seem to want to equate everything with bird hunting as Mark just said.Also, seems to me that you have to be in the field hunting birds before those regulations are enforceable. A shotgun in your truck without a plug is not a violation, in my opinion.

Also, I completely agree with his claim that female wardens are the worst! Totally enforcement and punishment and "By the book" harassment, and they aren't the least bit embarrassed if caught being wrong. They just act like, well I tried, can't blame me for trying! It's a complete negative attitude. No damned wonder they get the same back at them.

One time, on a completely different subject as I was talking to this pony tailed chick, she suddenly veered off as my son walked by with a spinning outfit. She tried to jump him about a barbless hook regulation in a nearby stream, but we weren't even there, yet she wanted to check if he had a barb on his spinner. It's enforcement, as if she is the only thing standing between the wildlife and slaughter.

It's obvious that I do have a negative attitude concerning game wardens. Truthfully, years ago, I didn't. Then I was sited for accidentally walking into a geese pasture inadequately marked by a couple of 12" white stakes, & while we were hunting pheasant. Seized our "weapons" and had to appear 200 miles from home on a work day. I paid the fine. That was the first and only game infraction I have ever suffered but left me indignant; like I was an ex con. And, I've never been arrested for anything, ever. It's like a stigma, a blemish, a scoff law. Forgot to mention, they didn't actually take our guns, they just recorded the serial numbers and it was called a technical seizure, meaning that they could have if they wanted to.

Of course, now days, they love to seize vehicles and anything of value, usually concerning drug offenses but also F&G code.

Sorry to rattle on. I told ya, don't get me started!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted January 03, 2019 05:11 PM      Profile for NVWalt           Edit/Delete Post 
Same here Leonard. Don't get me started!!!!

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Interesting article:https://blog.gaiagps.com/gaia-gps-vs-onx-hunt/
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