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ursus21
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posted July 31, 2014 08:39 AM

I am getting a mountain cur pup in September specifically for decoying coyotes. I've read everything I can find about decoy dogs and have watched all the videos I could find. With that said I'm open to any advice that might make this experience good for the both of us. I've raised and trained bird dogs before. I also call in and kill a lot of coyotes. So I have basic dog training knowledge and this dog will see lots of coyotes. I'm hoping for any advice that will help me train him to run to the howl and then return when I want him back.

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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 31, 2014 09:46 AM

Run him with a dog that goes to howls.

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ursus21
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posted July 31, 2014 10:18 AM

Kelly,
I wish that were an option but I don't know a single person locally that has a decoy dog let alone has one that runs to a howl. So I'm pretty much completely on my own here.

On a side not I've sure been impressed with how well your dogs are doing on those videos you post. Please keep doing that as I watch everyone one of them multiple times.

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Kelly Jackson
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posted July 31, 2014 10:54 AM

Have not found a consistant way to get one to go to howls. Even running them with another dog doesnt work for all of them.
I sold a dog to a buddy of mine and he is going to howls real well "most of the time". That dog was pretty green, but we showed a bunch of coyotes the last couple of months.

Maybe Cal or Randy has a training method that has worked for them.

I can also show you a bunch on vids of the azz of a coyote that took a look and left without working the dogs...but they really aint much to look at.

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Leonard
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posted July 31, 2014 11:13 AM

Yes, that is something I have noticed, while watching all the footage of dogs working coyotes. Specifically, often as not, a coyote will run the other way and not be interested in defending territory. Of course, that's not taking into account the denning season and the reason for coyote dogs in the first place.

Then, we got the aggressive dog versus the shy dog versus the aggressive alpha dog versus the aggressive "pair", and on and on.

Not to mention, (face it) a dog is a pain in the ass in a vehicle. I mean, if you have an open PU and a dog box, that's wonderful, but having a dog shake rain and snow in a cab and get muddy hoof prints all over the upholstery, not to mention nosing up all the windows.

But, DAMN! it's fun to watch, ain't it?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Brent Parker
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posted August 01, 2014 09:02 AM

I have had my best luck with using my caller and setting a hotdog in front of it. I dont let the dog see me do it or know its out there. I let my dog stretch alittle bit then take him or her out and play a coyote howl. I then encourage the dog to go to the sound and will walk them out to it if need be. I start close at around 50 yards and slowly stetch it out. Soon the dog does not need any encouragement. They get going on there own. The bringing them back is alittle more difficult but after they get chewed on alittle they realize saftey with with ol Dad back at the rifle. Give them time and they come around.
Brent

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Leonard
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