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Frank
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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2013 08:35 PM      Profile for Frank   Author's Homepage   Email Frank         Edit/Delete Post 
To combat domestic terrorism, Obama reminded Americans that it was important to reach out to Muslim communities.

This, my friends, is the delusion. Reaching out to muslims is like telling a fire and hellstone Baptist preacher that God don't exist.

You'll never convince him to change his beliefs.

And so it is with Obama's statement of reaching out to the muslim community. This is where the lie gets perpetrated. This is where politicians are clueless. This is why they need to be removed from office...all of them!

Here's more:

President Obama drew sharp criticism from Republican senators Thursday for urging the repeal of the 2001 law that effectively authorized the war on terror.

He wants us to love muslims and not fight them at all.

With a name like Barack what do you expect?

[ May 23, 2013, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 23, 2013 09:06 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm packin'. And, I just scored 200 Winchester 357 125gr at Brass ProShops. The shelves were bare except for what I bought. However, there was some rifle ammo in Fed 300Mag and 300WSM and 270. After that, nada. Oh, and forget 12 gauge, except for birdshot. No Dead Coyote, no #4Buck, only 00Buck.

They have a sign limiting primers to 2 thousand. But, I didn't see any, except for a couple hundred shotgun primers, BFD.

And, "scored" is a relative term @ $33.49 a box. I don't normally buy factory ammo, I have not shot factory anything besides rimfire in years, decades really. But, if ammo will be the new medium of exchange, I guess we have to go with the flow while contributing to the hysteria.

Good hunting. El Bee

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4949shooter
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 03:33 AM      Profile for 4949shooter   Email 4949shooter         Edit/Delete Post 
They are now hacking up British soldiers on London streets in the name of Islam.

But it's a religion of peace.

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TOM64
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 04:31 AM      Profile for TOM64           Edit/Delete Post 
That's only the radicals.

Oreilly said last night that "our" muslims are peaceful.

Except for the shoe bomber, the Boston bombers, the Ft Hood shooter, the ones they caught fighting with the Taliban and whoever else I'm forgetting.

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4949shooter
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 06:30 AM      Profile for 4949shooter   Email 4949shooter         Edit/Delete Post 
When did O'reilly start smoking crack?
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CrossJ
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 06:57 AM      Profile for CrossJ   Email CrossJ         Edit/Delete Post 
Oreilly is a crack baby!!!! He has always been an arrogant prick; its just that a lot of times we agree with his crusade dujour!

Maintain

P.S. Lb, I read somewhere that Cali passed micro stamping legislation. Is it true?

[ May 24, 2013, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: CrossJ ]

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Frank
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 11:36 AM      Profile for Frank   Author's Homepage   Email Frank         Edit/Delete Post 
O'Reilly......

Can't stand the son-of-a-bitch. He was instrumental in saving Juan Williams from obscurity thus giving voice to liberalism on a conservative network.

He brings this across as an altruistic act on his part. Well, giving voice to liberalism cannot be, by definition, an "altruistic" act. More like an effort to promote the liberal view on a conservative network.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 12:53 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I guess my biggest bitch with OReilli is that he constantly interrupts his guests. He interviews a guest, and spends the whole segment telling the guest what he thinks. Or he asks a four paragraph question, then interrupts the response midway through the first sentence. Aggravating bloveating.

Good hunting. El Bee

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MI VHNTR
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Icon 1 posted May 24, 2013 06:09 PM      Profile for MI VHNTR   Email MI VHNTR         Edit/Delete Post 
To combat domestic terrorism, it's time to play cowboys vs muslims. Piss on what the head raghead thinks.

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Duckdog
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 04:23 AM      Profile for Duckdog           Edit/Delete Post 
Speaking of media personalities I can't stand...

I was recently told that Piers Morgan has totally flip flopped on his gun control stance...
Can anyone confirm or deny?
It wouldn't change my opinion of him in the least...I absolutely can not stand that person.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 07:29 AM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"To combat domestic terrorism, Obama reminded Americans that it was important to reach out to Muslim communities.

This, my friends, is the delusion. Reaching out to muslims is like telling a fire and hellstone Baptist preacher that God don't exist.

You'll never convince him to change his beliefs."
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Obama allowed all of these Muslims to come here. He loves them because he himself is a Muslim. Obama has caused nearly all of the domestic terrorist attacks with his sneaky foreign policies.

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Frank
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 08:52 AM      Profile for Frank   Author's Homepage   Email Frank         Edit/Delete Post 
Here's a news snippet to think about

"Obama: Al Qaeda is on ‘a path to defeat’; calls for resetting terror policy".

This was a headline from the Washington Times.

Think about "resetting terror policy".

I have to ask "What do you reset"?

Do they think muslims have changed their minds?

Do the politicians think islam will be good now?

Do they think there will be fewer terror attacks?

islam was started by mohammad around 640AD.

That's about 1400 years the earth has been scourged by this murderous cult. Slavery to this day, women circumcision, man-boy-sex, man-goat-sex, the killing or subjugation of any one who does not believe in the cult of islam, etc, etc, etc.

Does anyone think, that after 1400 years of this cult, they are going to "change their minds" and become peaceful?

I say the world needs to adopt a policy of reciprocity.

In other words "You do to other's what they want to do to you".

They want to kill us and eliminate us from the face of the earth. I say we do likewise.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 12:03 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have been saying this for at least 20 years. The next global conflict will be religious, Christians and Jews against Islam. I don't know if the godless Chinese and Russians will stand around or pick sides? And, one guess as to who will start the conflict.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 01:03 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Until we have a leader with the balls to bomb Mecca in retaliation for a terrorist attack on us, these camel shagging savages are going to continue to be a cancer on our planet.

Maybe the next time we run across a boneyard, we should gather up some vertebra and a bungee cord and send obama a do-it-yourself-spine-kit.

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Rich
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 02:13 PM      Profile for Rich   Author's Homepage   Email Rich         Edit/Delete Post 
"Maybe the next time we run across a boneyard, we should gather up some vertebra and a bungee cord and send obama a do-it-yourself-spine-kit."
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Oh No. Make no mistake, it isn't a spine that he lacks, it is a Love of America. Obama the Evil One has an un-breakable love for Islam. Hell, he don't even Love Mexican's, he just needs their vote.

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 08:28 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Rich;
I'm not sure that I'm quite ready to concede your point about his spine, but I will agree that obama hates the America we love.

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Frank
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Icon 1 posted May 25, 2013 09:48 PM      Profile for Frank   Author's Homepage   Email Frank         Edit/Delete Post 
Kokopelli, you are what I call prescient.

In order to bring home the message that islam is an Obamanation, we need to destroy the center of the cult..... mecca. This is the perfect retribution and I been advocating it for years.

All muslims around the world bow and pray to mecca multiple times per day......this in honor of an unspeakable evil invented by a goat fucker, slaver, and war lord known as Muhammad.

This cult practice in observed by all muslims around the world and is central to the practice of their cult.

Nothing would be better than to nuke mecca into non-existence. Radiate the place till it's like Chernobyl.......so radio active no one can live there.

With mecca destroyed and nuked to the point where no man can live there, then the world will have some small measure of justice because muslims from around the world will be bowing and praying to a smoking hole in the ground.

Remember the muslims who blew up the Buddhist statues? They've been burning libraries, cultural institution, cities, and anything non-muslim for over a thousand years.

muslims now want to destroy the pyramids because they are not part of islam. muslims have been destroying any symbol that does not belong to islam since the founding of this cult.

I say we nuke mecca into non-existence.

If I had a nuclear bomb you can bet your ass I would press the button on mecca.

[ May 25, 2013, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Frank ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2013 06:05 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I agree they don't deserve to be in association with any civilized society. Put a fucking fence around their location and let nobody in and nobody out. Forget indulging them by building fake islands resembling palm trees or the tallest building in the world. Let them make stuff with their sixth century technology, eat dates and camel meat and whatever sand they can find.

If they must be self supporting they can export their oil at a realistic price, like $10 a barrel but charge them $25, 000,000,000 to drill every well, and at least $2,000,000,000 for every Mercedes, and no skilled mechanics, no refined gasoline or Diesel.

The thing is, they can't do anything for themselves without western technology. The culture will dry up and revert to stupid, backward people living in tents, dressed up in Jesus Christ sandals and robes and leave them the fuck alone, as they claim they want to be.

No computers, they are the heaviest downloaders of pornography by far, hell, time to break out the abacus for computations.

They don't deserve cell phones, even for legitimate use, much less blowing up innocent people. They are such ignorant backward people locked in a fucking time warp and contribute virtually nothing to human civilization. I'm for banning guns for these degenerates, okay, maybe their muzzleloaders, but no sharp knives over 3" in length.

Pathetic people with a pathetic religion. Fuck 'em and the horse they rode in on!

End of rant. But, please God, grant me this one little wish and I will never ask for another.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2013 02:41 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Gee, thanx..........you're making me blush. (Even though I had to look that word up)

A few decades back, when it was first suspected that Israel had a nuke, one of their leaders talked about the Samson Solution and that if Israel went down they would strike at the very heart of the arab world. Meaning that they would nuke Mecca. This is the only type of thing that the camel humping savages understand. They have no love for Israel but they know enough not to push to far.
We, on the other hand, have a president that wants to appease these animals. It didn't work for Nevile Chamberlain and it won't work for Obama.

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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2013 06:13 PM      Profile for Dave Allen           Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard, said dressed up in Jesus Christ sandals.

That cracked me up, my grandpa hated men wearing sandals. Everytime he saw some dude wearing sandals, he'd say WTF does he think he's Jesus !

ps: never worn sandals in my life..

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Frank
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Icon 1 posted May 26, 2013 07:41 PM      Profile for Frank   Author's Homepage   Email Frank         Edit/Delete Post 
Here's one writer finally getting a clue. I'd support him if I knew how.

Is Radical Islam Normative Islam?

Michael Brown

I am sometimes criticized for using the term “radical Islam” when describing acts of Islamic terror, the argument being that this is really normative Islam. In contrast, the more peaceful expression of the faith is understood to be a liberalized, non-representative form of Islam. Could this criticism be valid?

Writing from Australia, CultureWatch commentator Bill Muehlenberg asked, “So how many more 9/11’s do we need before we wake up? How many more Bali bombings? How many more attempted beheadings like in London today [namely, May 23rd]? When will we wake up and realise that Islam is in fact a political ideology which has always been spread by the edge of the sword?

“When will we believe the words of Muhammad? When will we believe the Koran? When will we believe the hadith? When will we take them at their word when they tell us they intend to kill us? When will we understand that they want to see the entire world under submission to Islam and sharia law?”

Has he overstated his case?

In the aftermath of the shocking murder and beheading of a British solider this week by two Muslim men (in broad daylight, no less, and with a video commentary and explanation by one of the murderers), British Prime Minister David Cameron immediately issued this statement: “This was not just an attack on Britain and on the British way of life, it was also a betrayal of Islam and of the Muslim communities who give so much to our country. There is nothing in Islam that justifies this truly dreadful act.”

This was echoed by the Muslim Council of Britain, which condemned what it called a "truly barbaric act" which has "no basis in Islam.”

In contrast, Tommy Robinson, leader of the right-wing English Defense League, said: "They're chopping our soldiers' heads off. This is Islam. That's what we've seen today."

On the Islamic side, Omar Bakhri, a “Syrian-born Islamist cleric who taught one of the men accused of hacking to death an off-duty British soldier on a London street praised the attack for its ‘courage’ and said Muslims would see it as a strike on a military target.” And the radical, England-based Islamist preacher Anjem Choudary “has said he was ‘shocked’ by the murder of a soldier in Woolwich, but has refused to condemn the attack,” noting that “I think not many Muslims can disagree with” what the murderer said in his video explanation.

So, who is speaking for normative Islam, or, more precisely, what is normative Islam?

No one would argue that there are multiplied millions of Muslims, perhaps several hundred million Muslims, who are peace loving, who abhor violence in the name of Islam, and who are repulsed by the actions of the Boston Marathon bombers or the London machete murderers. The question is whether these Muslims are being true to the core values of their religion.

Looking at this from a Christian perspective, while we might engage in a war with the Taliban in Afghanistan, this is not a holy war for us but a military campaign, even if Christian soldiers in the military feel they are doing God’s work in protecting America and rooting out terrorism.

But no one – or at least, hardly anyone with a working brain – is thinking that it is our Christian duty to kill Muslims or that by decimating the Taliban we are advancing the gospel. (We can safely ignore the ridiculous claims of Mikey Weinstein here.)

Even the exceptions to the rule, like Fred Phelps of the notorious (and tiny) Westboro Baptist Church, are not advocating murdering Muslims (or other Christians or Americans in general), and they are completely repudiated by virtually every recognized Christian group in the land.

Yet this universal repudiation of Islamic terror is never to be found in Muslim circles for at least two reasons: 1) Muslim leaders do not universally repudiate these acts, since many consider this to be a valid expression of jihad. 2) In many cases, those Muslims who want to speak out will not for fear of their lives. As an anonymous (!), atheist Pakistani blogger writes, “I have ideas and opinions that are unconventional, as far as most Pakistanis are concerned. I’m not the only one who thinks differently, but the systematic silencing of our nation’s free-thinkers, has reduced the non-religious and liberal population to a small, scattered class of individuals.”

This reminds me of Muslim protesters in England a few years back who basically said, “How dare you call us terrorists! We will kill you!”

But there’s something far weightier to consider as we look at the severe Islamic persecution of Christians in countries like Iraq and Egypt and Syria and northern Nigeria. The fact is that this has happened before, and it took place during the so-called Golden Age of Islam.

Church historian John Phillip Jenkins tells the story in his important book The Lost History of Christianity.

“As late as the eleventh century,” he writes, “Asia was still home to at least a third of the world’s Christians, and perhaps a tenth of all Christians still lived in Africa—a figure that the continent would not reach again until the 1960s. Even in 1250, it still made sense to think of a Christian world stretching east from Constantinople to Samarkand (at least) and south from Alexandria to the desert of the Ogaden, almost to the equator.”

What happened to this thriving, intellectually vibrant Christianity? Jenkins explains, “And yet this older Christian world perished, destroyed so comprehensively that its memory is forgotten by all except academic specialists.”

It was virtually wiped out by violent Islamic persecution, “especially during the fourteenth century, [when] church hierarchies were destroyed, priests and monks were killed, enslaved, or expelled, and monasteries and cathedrals fell silent. As church institutions fell, so Christian communities shrank, the result of persecution or ethnic and religious cleansing.”

Perhaps radical Islam is more normative than many of us would like to believe. At the very least, Islam has a potentially violent core that is deeply associated with its fundamental principles of faith.

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