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Author Topic: Beckin Calls Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted January 30, 2010 02:45 PM                       Has anyone else heard of this call maker? Last evening, we had the rules meeting for the Kansas Predator Challenge and the guy that makes these calls - his last name is Beckin - was there peddling his wares - open reed calls and howlers. I was busy doing the things a co-coordinator and hunt official has to do, so I never got the chance to go and visit with him about these calls, but I was really, and I mean REALLY impressed with the tonal qualities of his calls when he demonstrated them for prospective customers. Once the rules meeting was over and the teams had all headed out, one of the guys that's helping us, and a buddy, came to where some of us were sitting around just shooting the bull and reveling in the fact that we'd just covered rules and dispersed kill blocks and donated goodies to 90 teams, all in less than an hour or less, and he'd just bought one of these calls and set it on the table. I picked it up and immediately saw what this guy had done to produce such an absolutely awesome sound. He has created a double-reed call, but not in the way that everyone else is doing it. His are open reed calls with a medium width mylar reed on a relatively narrow tone board, mounted in a hand-turned and hand-polished laminate wood barrel with a flared mouth, or heel. Inside the call, downrange from the open reed and just flush with bottom of the bell of the call is a reed sleeve and a JC closed reed voice which very effectively sends your air across/ through both the open and the closed reeds to produce a very unique, and IMO, likely a very ear-catching sound. Has to be one of the loudest, raspiest and multi-tonal jackrabbit sounds I've ever heard from a hand call. Carries both the high-end frequencies and the low, gutteral sounds at the same time and better than any other hand call I've ever heard, regardless of type. I'm ringing phones tonight to make sure he'll be there tomorrow at check-in so I can get one from him and will post pics and maybe a sound file if I can create one I like with it after some practice. My point is simple - if you guys like open reed calls that produce a loud and raspy jack sound, you'd definitely be interested in this call. There hasn't been a lot new under the sun in callmaking for some time, but this guy is onto something. [ January 30, 2010, 02:45 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ] -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted January 30, 2010 03:25 PM                       Sounds interesting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Alaskan Yoter Knows what it's all about Member # 169 posted January 30, 2010 04:26 PM                   Never heard of him Lance, but always interested. Posts: 235 | From: Wasilla, Alaska | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Lone Howl Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police Member # 29 posted January 30, 2010 07:38 PM                    Ill chime in,timidly...Lance, if I read your description right,I think your describing basicly an inline reed call? I know a couple of people have done it sort of the way you are describing it. Ive even tinkered with it but it seemed sort of hard to blow, at least not to my liking, so then we made a part that had holes in it(that held the jc reed)and mounted in the barrel of the open reed to bypass some air around the reed and make it blow easier. Basicly the jc reed holder/insert had holes drilled around it in a circle pattern. It was a removable piece, with o rings. I personally did not like it but my partner at the time did. Obviously, never got off the ground. Never heard of this guy but sounds like he has a neat call. Mark edit..just to say that the more I think about it, it was probably the toneboards that made it hard to blow back then, cause they sucked [ January 30, 2010, 07:43 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ] -------------------- When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. Posts: 2083 | From: Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted February 01, 2010 12:43 PM                       Here are a couple pics of these Beckin Calls, Side view Inside the bell at the closed reed voice I recorded a sound file of how it sounds with my limited practice so far, but don't know how to post that for you to hear. Someone post how and I'll get it done. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Alaskan Yoter Knows what it's all about Member # 169 posted February 01, 2010 02:31 PM                   I have seen that some where else? Is that a Yellerdog tone board in it too? So did ya talk much with the call maker much at all? Posts: 235 | From: Wasilla, Alaska | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Lone Howl Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police Member # 29 posted February 01, 2010 02:58 PM                    Just what I thought it was, pretty neat. I still think he should make that a removable piece, so you can remove the jc reed and use the open reed to its full potential when you want to. But yeah, neat lookin call for sure and no doubt raspy as hell. [ February 01, 2010, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ] -------------------- When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. Posts: 2083 | From: Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted February 01, 2010 03:44 PM                       Todd, I had to slip back to his table between giving various announcements and spoke with him for about ten minutes. He and another guy are collaberating on these calls and he has several different types. Anything in particular you were wondering about? -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Alaskan Yoter Knows what it's all about Member # 169 posted February 01, 2010 05:09 PM                   Sure! Whats his names? Does he have a web site? How do you get his calls? You know, just the basics. Better yet, when will we see the next Predatr Calls? Posts: 235 | From: Wasilla, Alaska | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted February 01, 2010 06:16 PM                       The maker is Beckin Game Calls, Eric Becker and Marvin Henry in Topeka, Kansas. They don't have a site yet but are working at it. I believe Eric can be reached by phone at 785-969-6475. As far as Predatr Calls, hmmmmm, I've been looking at that lathe in my shop and thinking about that. Been monitoring the custom callers forum at PMS and there just isn't much moving there so I've had to decide whether to spend my time writing, doing taxidermy, turning calls, or hanging out with the wife and kids. The latter gets the nod with the first two right behind. But, when I do begin turning calls again, I've pretty much decided to forgo the new design and switch back to the more recognizable and basic design my dad and I began with and will be calling it, simply, the PREDATR Classic. There seem to be a lot of fancy-schmantzy calls out there that look purty but don't carry the water. At least, not to my personal tastes, and I try to tune my calls to the sound imprinted in my brain by a couple thousand Mexican black-tailed jackrabbits I killed via the jaws of up and coming racing greyhounds. Time frame? I don't know. Sooner than later. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Lone Howl Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police Member # 29 posted February 01, 2010 06:47 PM                    Those calls are very well done, they should go over well. Lance,I hope you do start makin some calls again, I always heard good things about em thats for sure. Mark -------------------- When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. Posts: 2083 | From: Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted February 01, 2010 07:56 PM                       Thanks, Mark. I will have to make some, as a buddy of mine that was doing ADC work in Oregon and who moved to a new assigment in NE last year uses PREDATR's in his work and has ordered several in the past to give to other ADC guys out west. Before he left the coast to come back east, he grabbed some madrone from a buddy's wood pile for me to work with. I also want to get some of a C. American wood called, appropriately, "coyote" and give it a try. That, and the fact that I have blanks on hand for about sixty more calls already, cut and ready to turn. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted February 01, 2010 09:44 PM                       Well, I'm sorry to hear that, Lance. I was hoping my "Diablo" would rocket in value, no more being made, etc. Still in the baggie, new condition; I probably should keep it in the safe? Good hunting. LB -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 32366 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged fgf4 unknown comic posted February 12, 2010 01:05 PM              That's a neat call Lance... If you say it's good then I'd have to say it's very good! Good to hear you're thinking about making calls again! Nikonut IP: Logged Locohead World Famous Smoke Dancer Member # 15 posted February 12, 2010 09:35 PM                    Lance's calls sound realllly good. The brass one can be cold on the lips but the sound is really great on both the jack and bunny calls I have. It seems that whenever Lance puts his mind to something, he usually excels. Seeeeeems like it...I could be way wrong you know. -------------------- I love my critters and chick!!!! :) Posts: 2219 | From: CO | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged fgf4 unknown comic posted February 12, 2010 11:54 PM              Hey Lance, Got a question... is the reed soldered into the reed holder on that call? Hard to see but that's kind of what it looks like. I can't say I've ever seen a JC reed soldered in place so that's why I'm asking. If that's the case I'm curious as to why? Maybe the enclosed reed was inserted after the open reed? Nikonut IP: Logged Cdog911 "There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell. Member # 7 posted February 13, 2010 04:31 AM                       No, it's just inserted into the reed sleeve, best as I can tell. -------------------- I am only one. But still, I am one. I cannot do everything, but still, I can do something; and, because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do. Posts: 5440 | From: The gun-lovin', gun-friendly wild, wild west | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged fgf4 unknown comic posted February 13, 2010 09:07 PM              Thanks! I've heard of guys holding an enclosed reed call in the bell of an open reed to get a different sound... I can't remember who experimented with that, it was on that other site! LOL Nikonut IP: Logged Lone Howl Free Trial Platinum Member & part-time language police Member # 29 posted February 14, 2010 10:29 AM                    I what your talking about Niko, it kinda does look like a lump of solder in there. probly just the angle of the pic. [ February 14, 2010, 10:30 AM: Message edited by: Lone Howl ] -------------------- When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. Posts: 2083 | From: Texas | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged

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