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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 30, 2024, 09:07 AM:
I got the flyer from Natchez it's been a couple weeks and so I sometimes browse it while in the library.
Reloader powder is listed, the only one I use is #19, and it's $64 a fucking pound! EEK!
IMR and Hodgdon's are all like $50 per pound.
The only one half way reasonable, but only in comparison is Winchester 760 and 748, I forget but maybe $35?
Anyway, what the hell is the reason for these utterly ridiculous prices? And yet, you can buy military shit; 7.62 and 5.56 LOADED for way cheaper than if you buy primers and bullets and then you pay over fifty bucks for 7000 grains of powder.
Roughly, what? 23 grains X 7,000=304 charges of 223 powder. Is that 16 cents worth of powder? plus a bullet plus a primer.
Then how much is a 20 round box of 5.56?
Something ain't making sense, to me?
Good hunting. El Bee
PS now you have to add the cost of a powder scale and a press and set of dies. It's no wonder that nobody want to handload ammunition anymore?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 30, 2024, 11:36 AM:
supply and demand along with price gouging. I don't think the prices will ever drop too normal.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 30, 2024, 11:40 AM:
also, way it was big ammo companies come first and if they have overrun of powder then we get a discount same with bullets. But they can't keep up so they price the hell out of us to slow down sales.
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on January 31, 2024, 04:46 AM:
It's Bidenomics at work.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 31, 2024, 06:51 AM:
Yeah, as in a brick of .22 ammo is a commodity with real value as opposed to a dollar that has the full faith and credit of the Biden Government behind it.
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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 31, 2024, 08:09 AM:
I did buy two can's powder last week, for around 80.00.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 31, 2024, 08:36 AM:
Today Jan. 31 and temps in the 50's here in Minn. with no snow on the ground. WTF!!!!! Lets get to night calling boyz.......
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 31, 2024, 08:48 AM:
Well, I have, (not really, really recently) bought some (a few) pounds of shotgun and pistol powders and I paid something like $38 per pound.
But still, $38 is a long ways from $65! They got to be kidding!
Sure give me the sage comments about inflation and supply and demand but I'M TELLING YOU, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG!
First the sage's told us if they go after us, the weak link was logically PRIMERS but here we are with especially rifle powders, and particularly ReLoader powders for rifle application, all priced at $64-$65. The one I use in particular, for 25'06Ackley and 243Ackley is ReLoader19. Fortunately, I have a couple pounds on hand.
Here's another thing. I don't know what some of you guys are using in high performance .224" but I have always got extremely good results with H414. Near as I can tell, you can't find that anywhere, at any price? Same thing, I happen to have a bit more than a couple pounds, on hand, but still, it's weird. What if I didn't?
As far as loaded ammunition, honest to God, I cannot tell you the last time I bought any rifle cartridges? No, yes I bought a couple boxes of 7.62X39 for a Chinese rifle I got from my brother in law for $80 and gave it to my grandson, and then he had it seized by the cops for some reason that was never clear to me, and by that time I had already bought a set of dies and some 1680 powder for it. It's aweird bore size so the accuracy ain't great with .308" bullets, but other than that purchase, 20 years ago, I literally, have not bought loaded rifle cartridges, ever.
Handgun, that's a different story. I'm stocked to the rafters with boxes of ammo for everything I own, even though I handload everything except 25auto, and maybe I should get around to that if I start shooting that copy of the Baby Browning that I have. It's a punishing little cocksucker, so that ain't happening sometime soon.
And, it's like ko ko said, a box of, especially pistol ammunition, is a transferable commodity. But, there again, look at 50 rounds of 22LR and 9mmx19. Currently, to the best of my knowledge, the 22's are like $6.50 for CCI and any FMJ 9mm range ammo is ten bucks? Don't quote me, I don't know what either is right exactly now, and if you have to mail it, which I can't even do, in the People's Republik!
Ammo is a fucking mess, but at least we don't have to fill out forms and show ID. And the reason is because if you got your name on file, for 5 years, they already have your purchase noted and logged.
It's really not very different from buying firearms, in Kalifornia.
END OF RANT
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 31, 2024, 11:05 AM:
Here's some proof of collusion by FUCK JOE BIDEN on his efforts to cut down the ammo supply.
exert:
“This policy to deny the sale of excess ammunition not only would freeze over 30 percent of the 5.56mm/.223 caliber ammunition used by law-abiding gun owners,” Oliva said, “it risks the ammunition industry’s ability to surge production capacity for national defense if the costs to maintain the present workforce isn’t recouped through sales to the civilian market.”
https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/17/wh ite-house-aims-to-shut-down-ammunition-sales-while-dems-claim-to-engage-in-good-faith-gun-talks/
edit: It seems to me that Lake City was the plant that had a huge explosion on the primer line not long ago and was the reason for the price of primers going north of $100/M?
[ January 31, 2024, 11:13 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 31, 2024, 01:21 PM:
I used H-414 a few times think that's a military surplus powder. I'm using H-380 and N-140, N540.Ramshot big game is good but none on shelves as of now.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 31, 2024, 05:41 PM:
You know you can bring up Hodgdon's website and they tell you everything they have in stock. It changes maybe no daily but it does seem to show what they have and a couple days later you look and it's out of stock. The thing is to keep checking and you would be surprised how it changes.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: I finally found the powder availability link
https://shop.hodgdon.com/hodgdon/
edit: this is their stock of Winchester IMR powder
https://shop.hodgdon.com/imr/
Note: scroll to the bottom of the page and look at the left side for the different powders. Also they dink around when you change the search criteria above where it says AtoZ etc.
[ January 31, 2024, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 31, 2024, 06:31 PM:
Been getting what powder I need right here plus I don't have to pay hazmat charges.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on February 01, 2024, 10:04 AM:
Yes, lucky you!
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