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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 31, 2023, 09:52 PM:
To Tiny Tim and the rest of the Peanut Gallery!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 01, 2024, 05:48 AM:
Happy Happy Happy.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 01, 2024, 11:16 AM:
I otter give you a time out for excessive use of emojis! But, you are so cute, I have to let it go....in the spirit of the Seasons, of course!
Good hunting. El Bee ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 01, 2024, 11:55 AM:
Aw ........... You're makin' me blush !!!
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Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on January 02, 2024, 05:12 AM:
Hope everyone has a great year to come and it only gets better as the days pass by.
Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on January 02, 2024, 04:43 PM:
Best wishes to all for a better 2024.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 03, 2024, 10:23 AM:
Still waiting for Tiny Tim's reply before we close it out....prolly playing with his new hi tech toy?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 03, 2024, 01:34 PM:
I caught part of a blurb n the news about the Mini-Soda Accordion / Chili Cheese Dog Eating Contest being disrupted my a deranged adult male with an 'electronic device' blaring Polka Music. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Tim; Don't say ANYTHING without your lawyer being present and remember ...... The Court appointed Psychiatrist is NOT your friend.
Stay warm up there; That white stuff will kill you.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 03, 2024, 03:21 PM:
Happy New year folks. You got me Leonard, I was playing with my new toys and my 22-250 ackley should be back from doctor soon.
Koko its Dec.3rd today and not a snowflake on the ground. (global warming) I'm Norwegian and Swedish so no polka music for me you know. For record hotdogs is not an American food.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 04, 2024, 10:38 AM:
I don't know about that little factoid, Tim? I have heard it was introduced at the Chicago World's Fair and some Expo in NYC. It all depends on the word, there are very similar sausages in Germany, only longer and more pointed at both ends.
Now this is what I was told when I worked at Wilson Meat, who had plants all over the midwest, including Minnesota. edit: Albert Lea
A real wiener is made with a blend of beef, (chuck) pork and veal, which is impossible to get these days because of the Liberal Karen's.
Now, it's actually disgusting! They blend in chicken and/or turkey.
Now we get to Frankfurter, or Frank, for short. These are stressed as "ALL BEEF" because Jewish won't eat pork, neither will Muslim's for that matter. So, they are pretty much the same taste, and I usually buy all beef Oscar Meyer or Hebrew National just because I don't want any fucking chicken mixed into my fucking hotdog! But, again, you have a true wiener/hotdog which do not have fucking chicken in it! Then you have "all beef" which are usually called Franks, or Frankfurter.
Now a word about ingredients, now PAY ATTENTION! because I think there used to be a newspaper columnist name of Drew Pearson who wrote a huge EXPOSE' in which he told readers that, (by Federal regulations) hot dogs can contain everything from the cheapest OFFAL to HOG SNOUTS! In other words, garbage, and whatever they can find when they sweep the floor! It is all based on a misinterpretation of guidelines or regulations.
Anybody ever hear of Head Cheese which is a luncheon meat, cold cuts that actually used pig jowls. So, to avoid dictating government regulations on those processed foods, they wrote the standards as broadly as possible, but all that dickhead got out of it was that hotdogs have nothing but disgusting animal parts in the ingredients. This is not true, in the slightest!
Think about it like this, all wieners, just like bacon and ham, IS SMOKED and cured in large smokehouses and that recipe is so exact, there is no room for error, or you have a $50,000 batch rendered worthless and set out in dumpsters to be picked up for hog feed. I know for a fact that they use nothing but good pork and beef chuck and it's chilled and run through a vacuum mixer until it resembles a gray soup and then stuffed in casings then hung on racks and rolled into the smokehouse.
Wieners are "cooked" or processed, at a very low temperature, about 150* for between 16 and 18 hours. They keep these charts for years and can go back to exactly the batch, be it racks of bacon, or pressed hams or wieners. everybody has a slightly different process, with the addition of the smoke somewhere in the process, maybe 6 hours after the start, but it's all different based on the product, but whatever the product, it's precise and never varies.
Wilson made pressed hams, not whole shanks, at least in the plant I am familiar with. But you have to understand that cold cuts are, (per pound) some of the most expensive meat that you can buy and it's an exact science, the recipe never varies and it's a big secret, the spices are blended in a secure room and very few people know the exact content, spices.
With hams, you may have notices that they usually say somewhere, "water added". This is because they inject brine under pressure in all hams and bacon. Otherwise, it would dry out like leather. The wieners and polish sausages are stuffed in casings, sometimes intestine and other times, it's man made and with hotdogs, they are peeled under steam pressure with a slit from a razor blade to remove the casing before packaging.
I worked on the packaging machinery, in Wilson, Rath, Oscar Meyer and also the Abattoir Vernon Meatland. Actually, I worked in confectionary, drugs, dairy/ice cream, various juices, candy bars, diet pills, capsules, many different food processing machinery. Interesting and varied work, for the most part, but I din't like the cattle slaughtered, especially Kosher Kill; those Rabi's are brutal! And, they were "on the clock"!
Good hunting. El Bee
[ January 04, 2024, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 04, 2024, 11:14 AM:
smoked sausage or beef sticks is fine but I hate hotdogs regardless of who makes them. Had hotdogs as a kid and they just don't make them like they used to. Most of the sausage, hotdogs, brauts here are made by those with German ancestry.
[ January 04, 2024, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 04, 2024, 01:59 PM:
Makes me hungry for a good bowl of Haggis.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 05, 2024, 11:11 AM:
There is a specialty market chain, but there aren't many that makes a friggin' WIENER that is a retro from beginning to end. First of all it's chubby, looks more like a hot link, if you know what they look like? They use a natural casing and for most people, including me, one hotdog makes a meal, you know, on a soft bun and some Germany mustard. It's just like a million years ago when you went to the meat counter and behind the glass there was a tray of wieners, still linked, and the clerk would cut off how many you asked for. This was in the days before vacuum packaging. I still can't get over fucking chicken hotdogs! How do they get away with it? The answer is: see, it's healthy! Everybody should watch their cholesterol and when they stuff poultry into a fucking hotdog, suddenly; IT'S HEALTH FOOD! Give me a break!
Anyway, rumor has it that there might be a couple obscure markets that carry these delicious "retro" hotdogs. I saw them somewhere, just can't remember, but it was an independent market, wasn't Trader Joes, I'm pretty sure although that's the only small independent market that I have been in, in quite a while. Has anybody been in an Aldo, or Alda, something like that? We used to have an honest to God German Deli right here in Upland but it closed about a year ago. I had a schnitzel there one time and it wasn't like we used to get in actual Germany.
That reminds me. You know that fast food chain called Der Wienerschnitzel? Practically everybody thinks a "Wiener schnitzel" is a damned hotdog! This is NOT TRUE! Listen to me! A WIENER SCHNITZEL is a deep fried Veal Cutlet! why is it that nobody knows this? Pass it on!
Good hunting. El Bee
ko ko, you literally have Haggis on the brain! It's revolting and disgusting!
edit: PS what people REALLY think is that Der Wienerschnitzel is a HotDog with sour kraut and sour kraut ain't good with anything. My mom used to make it in a big pot with short ribs and then serve it on with boiled potatoes. I mean, it's edible, but you wouldn't want a steady diet, more than once annually. edit: but the "good" thing is there are lots of leftovers. And eventually, even the dog won't eat it!
[ January 05, 2024, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 05, 2024, 11:26 AM:
Well yeah, it's a trick question;
There's NO SUCH THING as a good bowl of Haggis.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 05, 2024, 06:10 PM:
Leonard we have a meat market that makes hotdogs like you just described and their spice sticks look same as well just smaller in diameter all joined together with a knot in the casing. Made with a German recipe.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 06, 2024, 04:33 PM:
anyone live in Sun city or close by?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 06, 2024, 07:01 PM:
Which Sun City?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 07, 2024, 12:54 AM:
in Az.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 07, 2024, 07:35 AM:
I have friends that live there. Interesting place designed for retirees.
Factoid; If a single retired man goes there he will be hunted down by lonely widows like coyotes chasing a jackrabbit. (No lie .... it's in the Homeowner's Assn. rules.)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 07, 2024, 11:50 AM:
There are some things about Sun City that are semi endearing. Their Golf Carts are street licensed and they use them to get to Denny's for the 4:30 Special. It's kinda cute to see them filing in and selecting from the senior menu.
One thing about Sun City is that ALL the houses are identical, at least at first glance, you cant tell how many bedrooms each house might have. The front yard, in many cases, is a display of every cacti known to exist, and of course, the status symbol is a Sahuaro in the front yard. The back yards, are strange to a Californian, no fences, actually not much of anything and the wildlife roam, consisting of Gambles quail and jack rabbets, the quail roost on the roofs, and there may be a few scrounging coyotes, all night so keep Fifi indoors.
It's a 55+ community and the children that must unload these houses wish they could change the age requirements so far with out success. You can opt out of the association fees to the pool and clubhouse. I have an ex girlfriend that lives there and my female cousin lives there and they bump into each other occasionally. The patrols benefit the Snowbirds and everybody else. All winter, you will see many Alberta license plates. Apparently the natives are doing well, it's an oil province.
Sun City is surrounded by Peoria and Glendale, all on the west side of Phoenix. It's actually kind of charming, neat as a pin. I think I could live there quite well.
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 07, 2024, 01:02 PM:
I dunno, Tim.
If you're looking for retirement digs a place called Top Of The World, Az. might be more to your liking.
Where Sun City West is practically uniformed Home Owners Assn. officials, Top Of The World is more, shall we say, rural. Plus it's higher altitude, ergo cooler in summer. Neat place to visit.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 07, 2024, 03:45 PM:
Let me break it to the Peanut Gallery.
Arizona possesses, I believe? eleven distinct climate zones from Sub Sahara to Tropical to Alpine.
If you can't find a climate in Arizona that suits you, you just aren't trying!
Except for the fact that about 25% of the state is Reservation, can't forget that little detail.
If you want to know Bosinski's lame reason/excuse for not already becoming a resident, it's because there are far too many options, dammit, I can't make up my mind! I would challenge any current resident to a game of, "I've been there" because I have quite literally been to every corner of Arizona, top to bottom and left to right and everything in between.
As I said about Sun City, Del Webb's enterprise west of Phoenix, really, I could be quite comfortable east or west or south or north or somee place in the middle. I have done plenty of scouting, I like all of it! I wish I could say, I simply can't stand this part but I have not found a section that I just didn't like.
All of this begs the question: What the fuck are you waiting for? Rigt now, it's a bit about age and being the Lone Ranger, it could be difficult to manage to physical move. I can afford it, no part, no area is beyond my resources.
I just probably need my ass kicked! And, get this, The People's Republik so severely limits my ability to buy the guns I need and desire, that's reason alone to get the fuck out of Dodge!
Hep me, I be fallin' and I cain't get out!
Good hunting. El Bee
PS ko ko's even offered to rent me a room at his spacious home and says he's okay with my Polka Band hosting on any day od the week except the Lord's Day.
PPS the Ivy plant that Cindy gave me has finally died. It had got so long, I trimmed it back and it never recovered. I'm usually pretty good with plants, but not this time.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 07, 2024, 04:13 PM:
Reason for asking is I have a friend that lives there. She is selling out her husband's rock collection if anyone interested in rocks.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 07, 2024, 08:21 PM:
Sometime this month is the big get together at Quartzite. It's a rock hound paradise.
I once shot a coyote standing on the US 95 overpass in the middle of Quartzite. Didn't wake anybody up, it was probably midnight? At the time there was a gas station and a Greasy Spoon and a desert miniature golf and that was it. I ain't kidding!
You should see it now! For eleven months all they have is a few fast food outlets and a couple truck stops. In January, it's like Brigadoon or what's that fairy tale about a sudden town that springs up like a Fairy Tale? I don't know, but Quartzite REALLY grows in January, people are camping in the desert for 5 miles in every direction. Kinda unbelievable, if you know what I mean?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 08, 2024, 03:13 AM:
Quartzite is totally cool in Jan. but it's glory has faded somewhat. From talking with the locals, micro-management by the town managers has driven a lot of the vendors away. At one time the place was a giant swap meet in Dec. / Jan. that would take a person about three days to visit all of the tables. Pretty much everything was there from stuff found out in the desert to solar panels. I was in one craft tent looking at furs and it turned out the owner was a fur buyer. Since I was heading home from vacation with a truck-load of stretched & dried coyote hides I took his offer and sold my fur right there.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on January 08, 2024, 05:11 AM:
What kind of rocks?
I've gotten into rock hounding big time.
Always looking and finding.
Just tumble rocks now don't have any rock saws.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 08, 2024, 05:54 AM:
all I know is they was picked up in Montana, wyoming, New Mexico and AZ.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 08, 2024, 11:02 AM:
First, I sort of doubt the market is real hot on used rocks, but I could be wrong? I pick up stuff when I'm out hunting and stuff them in my pocket. What I collect is worked rock, by primitive cultures like Clovis points, (never found one of those)
I watched a video of some dude back in Ohio that was sifting mud on the riverbank and he was finding "arrowheads" which is a much abused term. These things, being not very aerodynamic and as you might expect, they drop like a rock. Actual arrowheads are quite dainty, except for contact period iron points. Many would properly be called spear points. And, so what, they are so cool.
But there are a lot of faceted rocks used as scrapers and as crude knives for parting joints and cracking bones and they are what you might call one time tools and discarded where they were made and used. It's rather easy to recognize these tools when you know what you are looking for, mainly 3 converging facets that do not occur in nature. Out west, we have glassy rocks like Jasper and Chalcedony maybe some flint, and obsidian too. These make the finest cutting tools, sharp as a razor. Sometimes you can find a rock that will fill the hand, and it has one edge chipped into a tool point, easy to overlook.
Anyway, I am somewhat fascinated by what you can find just walking around with your finger up your nose. Also don't overlook stones that have been ground to shape, useful for fleshing and scraping hides. I've been told, in fact by Vic, who has explored anthills and found beads and small things like teeth and whatnot. Many things to be found, treasures, actually and all you have to do is be aware and look around.
In fact, some more recent items I have found, for example, a small bundle of straight creosote sticks pointed at one end and it appears to be a charm of some sort, it looks like either a bundle of arrows or spears. And, I have found carved pieces of wood in the shape of a serpent and one I have looks like either a bear or raccoon? You might find them cached in little caves or out croppings, maybe in packrat nests. You have to be in the right place to find potshards and I don't have a lot of interest but with sharp eyes they can be just laying around.
Especially after a rain. That's when arrowheads tend to stand out, all shiny. Be on the lookout for meteorites. Now, these things sell for serious money. One of the largest ever found was out at Old Woman Springs, east of Barstow. As I understand, the Feds confiscated the damned thing, I think it weighed hundreds of pounds and the guy that found it had to enlist help to retrieve it. He probably thought he could keep it but BLM had other plans. I wonder if they thanked him?
Enough rant for this morning
Good hunting. El Bee
Go Daddy is wanting more money. It's not worth it for the 3 of us but what the hell?
edit: ko ko can attest to one of my prize findings, it's an exquisite MORTAR AND METATE probably weighs 25 pounds. You would be hard pressed to stuff something like this in your pocket! lol
[ January 08, 2024, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 08, 2024, 02:07 PM:
And of course those cool rocks you found were found on the many ranches you got to hunt on. It is nice to know a few ranchers as anything you find on BLM or State lands belong to them and you better not be picking up artifacts while out hunting. Better to let the cattle and feral horses and burros step on them and break them, than to retrieve them to share with people!!! Anything by man over 50 years old is indeed an artifact . So leave those rusty tin cans and barrel hoops you find out there alone. Just saying.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 08, 2024, 04:43 PM:
You sound aggrieved, Sir? But yeah, if they want it, you have no status. Good thing that in the final analysis, nobody has any use for your treasured rock artifacts!
Or I will invoke ko Jo’s favorite excuse. I lost everything in a tragic boat accident! Baring that, have the NAZI’S DESCRIBE WHAT THEY LOST.
GOOD hunting. El Bee 🐝
[ January 09, 2024, 10:16 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 08, 2024, 05:32 PM:
Your right Leonard. I have NO love at all for the BLM nor the USForest Service. Those bastards have shut down so many roads and access to us the American people and why? I also know many ranchers and their love of the BLM is on par with mine, in fact even worse.
But about points and worked stone you find out there it is pretty neat and to find trade beads etc is sure a great find also. Just like guys telling about shooting magpies etc. Just a case of mis-identification.. That was a barn pigeon or a starling.
I and the wife used to sit around out there when finished a days calling and chipped out "arrowheads" and left them laying around for people to find. It was fun to do if we were in an area we knew other people would be in.
So have a good year and please don't shut down the site as it is the only one I look at anymore. And occasionally rant and rave and enjoy what other like minded individuals have to say here.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on January 09, 2024, 03:42 AM:
Oh LB, you're so far behind the times on rocks.
They are worth more than you think. Especially if the said rock is from shut down mine sites and the product is now limited to what someone can find from an old collector.
Also the shipping cost will kill a person if they want a fair amount or said rocks are big.
I have found some great colored green agates that look almost like jade. Sent a box to guy in N.C. he said if I wanted to sell minimum of $10 a pound.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 09, 2024, 04:36 AM:
I checked with DMV and none of you guys have ever owned a boat or know someone that does so now you got some explaining to do.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 09, 2024, 04:41 AM:
I have what we call a aggie, reddish/brown type of rock about size of a silver dollar with white lines running through it to form all kinds of nice patterns. Value of it depends on how many pieces I can cut it into getting all of the pattern in that piece.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 09, 2024, 07:39 AM:
" ............. ever owned a boat"
Wrong !!! I've just never registered it anywhere.
15' Ouachita canoe that I bought in 1968 after indenturing myself for a summer of slave labor.
As long as I don't put a motor on it I'm not required to register it. Without a motor, I get much needed exercise paddling the thing.
>>>>-------> Long ago I tossed the canoe paddle for a far more useful Kayak paddle that I use when sitting. Usually, I paddle standing up with a 5' paddle that I spliced together. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 09, 2024, 09:38 AM:
should put floats on the side so you don't tip over so much and lose your gear.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 09, 2024, 10:16 AM:
I once had a water safety game warden do a 360* around me 'cause he was sure that I had an outrigger on the canoe. He said that he had never seen anyone bowfish standing up in a canoe. I told him it was no big deal ..... he should see me flyfish.
The loss of all of my firearms was caused by a rouge wave that came out of nowhere. Totally unavoidable.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 09, 2024, 10:29 AM:
I will say this, Tim. That's something I used to find and collect when I was a kid in Minneesota-Agate! In fact, in my desk in the garage, right now, I can easily find an agate I found when I was about ten years old. It has kind of a star or eye shaped pattern, but I had a box full when I was a kid, this is the only one I saved.
Speaking of Jade. I have heard that divers have taken quite a bit of boulder Jade from along the central coast. If it is of jewel quality I don't know, but the Chinese are suckers for Jade. I never quite got it? I mean, it's okay but nothing to drool over. I guess it's easy to work, carve and polish and then you got something.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: I think it's a rogue wave, ko ko? Be careful out there!
edit: Yeah, Tim. You are some big help, floats/outriggers! Now that he has lost everything!
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 09, 2024, 03:07 PM:
Yeah, 'rogue' wave. Big scary thing.
I have a super power !!!! No matter which way I go from the boat launch ....... I'll be fighting white-caps all of the way back.
El Bee; Package to arrive Fri. Don't let Tillie eat it.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 09, 2024, 03:56 PM:
quote:
The loss of all of my firearms was caused by a rouge wave that came out of nowhere. Totally unavoidable.
Oh sure but most of the waters holes dried up so I'm sure you found them again.
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 09, 2024, 06:05 PM:
Those rogue waves can come from out of nowhere.
I was out on ancient Lake Lahonton one time and a rogue wave all of a sudden came up and swept me away and deposited me by one of my favorite hot springs. Go figure...Well maybe it was a rogue dust devil and I lost my way. Either way I ended up butt naked in one of my favorite hot springs. And they say strange stuff doesn't happen. Baloney, I say.Lol.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 09, 2024, 09:03 PM:
Yeah, Walt. I know a few hot springs up there. Do you know Kyle Hot Springs? Near Unionville. It's a shame what's been done to it. There used to be 5 nice cabins, free to first come first served. There is one up in Denio that is scalding, do not even stick your hand in it, it's boiling!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 10, 2024, 04:47 AM:
I do know Kyle and the ones around Denio. I have a book called Geothermal Resources from the Makay (sp) School of Mines that lists all the known hot spring resources in Nevada. The wife and I have gone to every one that you can get to and checked them out.
We had a suitcase with everything you needed to enjoy those springs and most importantly a thermometer. The ones that look so clear you can see the bottoms you need to be careful around as they may be boiling hot and also don't be walking around on any crusts as they are easily broken through and you will get boiled like a lobster or worse.
The ones that are close to towns of any size?? are usually trashed by local kids partying and idiot adults.
We, the wife and I had all over tans for sure.
Soldier Meadows was one of our favorites and the ranch foreman used to keep an eye on them as the ranch ended up as a B-N-B dude ranch and he would take wanna be buckaroos over there when they had them chase the poor dirt cows from one grazing area to another. He didn't care for going from a real buckaroo to baby sitter. Great guy though and he turned us on to some good spots to hunt. We were always welcomed there because we hunted coyotes.And I think he liked the wife LOL.
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 10, 2024, 04:50 AM:
That Unionville area had lots of badgers in the valley for some strange reason and some good fossil gathering places and on top of that a great place to go birding. All around a pretty neat ghost town.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 10, 2024, 07:55 AM:
Speaking of Unionville, which I barely know, but I've hunted the valley many times. But, there is a nice spring, with a washing machine cover to keep down the algae, about a mile easterly towards Granite mountain. That's the source of drinking water if staying at Kyle for any length of time.
There was an old cowboy that used to stay there for extended periods, for some reason, I can't recall his name right now, but the guy that told us about that place was a deputy called Bronco who we ran into in Lovelock. Is it Lymerick Pass? good lion population all around Star Peak.
I sure love it up there. And, you can fire a shot, and nobody hears it! Now, that's remote!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: Old cowboy was called "Whitey"
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on January 10, 2024, 06:33 PM:
I used to soak in a hot springs outside of Fields Ore. (Population 6) Fond memories of sitting in the springs during a snowstorm with a cigar, a bottle of wine and a harmonica. I could get the coyotes howling all the way to Burns.
Tim; The 'waterhole' where all of my firearms were lost was Roosevelt or possibly Alamo. I remember that it was during one of the Fireball Martini Festivals. Still deep water.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 11, 2024, 10:59 AM:
anyone heard of or know Glen Stilson from AZ. ??
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 11, 2024, 11:43 AM:
I'm drawing a blank, but the name does sound familiar?
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 11, 2024, 12:38 PM:
Well from what I know he puts on defense classes and also a hunting rag writer and now puts on a coyote calling class. Going to fly here to MN. and put class on maybe for some hunt club. Thing is what is he going to teach if he never called coyotes here in MN.?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 11, 2024, 01:42 PM:
Come on, Tim. That's like when I went to Africa and managed to call Jackals with stuff like Lightning Jack, which they don't have over there.
It's like a sort of universal distress sound. Ya know?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 11, 2024, 01:58 PM:
I heard he puts on classes in az. maybe for the calling clubs like Higgy does.
Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on January 11, 2024, 02:05 PM:
I been to az. few times the structure is different; you have way more coyotes and some hunt from step ladders. Don't you think maybe Minn. be a little different as far as structure and the coyotes be in other places like a farmer's grove and eating out of his dog's food dish. ect. Hell Az not even close to S.D. sure some of same sounds work but also keep in mind coyote vocals is main sounds on the list for here if you want to kill a lot of coyotes. Just way it is. What good is it to talk about rig hunting when we can't shoot from a truck here?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 11, 2024, 03:12 PM:
I don't know about? In some places, there is a distinction, shooting at game, shooting from a road, there are ways of slicing that issue. State lands my be different from private property. Stuff like that. If you are off the road, and or not shooting across the road, that can make a difference. In other places, it may be a flat NO, But then some people tow a trailer set up with shooting racks, but it's not a "MOTOR VEHICLE'.
So then, what is the question?
Like in Texas where they shoot from a blind on stilts, what is the distinction, if you have a rack in the back of your truck? For that matter, I've seen dedicated shooting blinds overlooking meadows and some of these things look like they have been in place for 50/100 years, and primarily at night. That's another big NO NO in some places. No night hunting.
Where I was in Africa, the Professional Hunter has a heavy duty suppresser suitable for Magnums and they are cheap and no phony government license or regulations and no 8 months approval.
What I mean is we get pretty fucking over regulated in this country, in spite of our supposed gun law freedoms that are stressed over and over. You know, $1200 for a suppresser? You can buy a whole rifle for half that price! And then a $200 tax stamp, when it's just a hearing safety device in other countries and not regulated!
I'm just saying that we are being taken advantage of, and I resent it!
Good hunting. El Bee
[ January 11, 2024, 03:36 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
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