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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 06, 2023, 05:41 PM:
 
I have 3 different people messaging me.

One is called Larry James. One is Cedar Waxwing, and the other is kodfish55. And they talk about Porn stash, and Skinny, who might be one of those Rambo guys called Six-something?

By far the one most frequent is Cedar waxwing and he appears friendly, but I question where he seems to get his insider info?

Larry James is hostile, really scares me!

and kodfish is negative but only had one email from him.

So, anybody have an opinion or any history? Who hangs out over there? I don't. Nothing there that interests me; I already know all I need to know about AR15's for coyotes and if a 223 will kill a coyote....the answer is maybe

So, that's it.

Oh! yeah! What about wounded rabbit for coyotes? That question was asked and answered before most of their wannabees were out of short pants.

It's no damned wonder the site is drying up. But, I do not care. What the hell Dave is doing there is completely beyond me? I just learned that Mock is gone, he (in my dealings, few) he seemed like a typical PMS asshole.

I hope this isn't considered discussing PM on this site If so I have that other one (Coltrane?) on my ass, you know, the one with the second warning? What about him?

So, if you respond, just use initials as a code, they won't ever figure it out.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ April 06, 2023, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 06, 2023, 06:39 PM:
 
When Merlin consulted The Lady In The Lake about his foe Mab the advice he was given was "When we are forgotten, we cease to exist."
Merlin banished Mab from his mind and she faded away.

Good advice then ............. Good advice now.
 

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Posted by Dan (Member # 4563) on April 06, 2023, 07:26 PM:
 
Do you think Mr Waxwing is a coyote hunter? Could he be just an internet keyboard commando? But, could be the actual owner of PMS.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 07, 2023, 03:40 AM:
 
Some could be owners of some company/salesmen and only can sell their products on Predator masters. I think you are hurting their sales Leonard. Mule team six comes to mind just salesmen that get a piece of the action for shit that gets sold. But hey Bucks/Bears loves those guys so they can't be all bad. LOL
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 07, 2023, 10:51 AM:
 
I'm not very interested in Kumbaya, and all the, whatever it is, camaraderie, band of brothers shit. All I know and truly believe is that I have no desire of friendship, another message board with similar interests, at least superficially, because this site is not monetized in the same way as PMS. As has been stated a number of times, I do not make money off of or because of this Board. Rather, it costs me money every year to talk about trivial stuff and predator hunting in general. When I reflect on the about 55 years in grade, as they say in the brown boot army.

AS my tongue in cheek sig line says; I have been around the friggin' block. I've killed more than my share of predators. The one we considered to be a predator and rather rare because they do not easily come to a call is the badger, I'm pretty sure I've killed somewhere between 15 and 20 and that is an entire lifetime devoted to casually encountering those tough little critters. Trivia I've mentioned before is that I have never had a bullet exit a badger, whatever the reason and circumstance. They are just tough, and in my opinion, particularly difficult to skin. Be that as it may, where I was going with this is I'm thinking of those 4 guys with the military attitude that call themselves something similar to the Seals team six but I didn't pay close enough attention. You know who I mean? None of them appears to be over 40 years old so again, as we used to say in the brown boot army, I was killing lots of coyotes when they were shitting yellow. That's not to say they may know what they are doing, but the swagger doesn't prove anything to me? If I may; I've been there, done that and got the tee shirt.

All in good humor, to our Lurkers out there in cyberspace....okay?

Anyway, what the hell do they want and apparently, they want to "shut down Huntmasters" for some vague reason that mystifies me? We aren't in it for the money. As I understand the situation: THEY ARE!

Well, good luck with that. It's been tried and I don't know a thing about Redfrog's estate, did he die quite well off? What the hell was his occupation before PMS boss? I never heard?

Well this is a rambling dialogue and it's past time to cut it short so please excuse the length; old farts tend to do that stuff, or so I hear?

So, who are these folks on the other side and what's their story.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 07, 2023, 12:32 PM:
 
To my knowledge none of the Mule team six have any military experience, they just watch a lot of war movies and like to dress the part. Then fool the kids thinking they hotshot coyote killers. They stockpile their coyotes for filming, making the kids believe they called all those coyotes in and killed em with their special rifles with suppressors. I believe all the special gear they use has to be bought through them, big bulky Bino pack that rest on your chest, backpack with built in gun scabbard, not sure what they carry in the pack, extra drawers perhaps. Then they got the special half gili suite or hoddie. Special built rifles their own creation, lol Everything has some sort of number instead of a name like most crap. (MA-5-bbrp-crap) Some of them hunted with Cal T. not sure why as they don't hunt to control population but to make movies. One guy has long bushy hair like the main on a lion sure could use a hair cut. LOL I also found out they will stack round hay-bails in certain locations for cover on there calling stands, use the bales for cover to drive in then set up. One vid. they had two coyotes come in, one got shot then 3 of the guys sat there and argued about who should shoot the other one as it was on way in. After the kills then they stand there and re-live there stand after everyone seen it all take place on the camera. LOL waste of time. They don't mess around with difficult coyotes either, just pack up and leave so they basically just skimming cream off the top. They or the family has a few big ranches and they also make dead piles with the cattle for hunting over, not much of a challenge there. They just learned to reload a few years back and act like they invented it, reminds me of Lance. They think the 22-250 is the cats ass when it comes to a coyote cartridge when a 22-250 ackley would serve them better in that open country. They got a shit load of those black rifles and after a lot of money think they figured out the AR in 223 isn't the answer, they should of just come here and asked one of the pro's about them and saved a bunch of money. LOL I think they also into shooting heavy bullets in their 22-250's IMO is stupid as hell, they don't shoot far enough to gain anything by doing so and basically you just got a 223 again cause bullet travels so dam slow, nothing gained!
Bino packs? Why would you have four guys using them on a stand the reflection and moving around just gives you away? I seen that happen firsthand when I did a calling contest, coyotes I was calling in kept locking up on us. They saw something and it took a while to figure out my partner was using his bino's the whole time on stand and the coyotes was spotting him. Asked my partner to wait to end of a stand before he looked around with his Bino's and he did and we started killing coyotes, just not enough to win the contest but would have had a dam good chance if he didn't screw up the others. Last contest I ever did with a partner.
 

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Posted by Dan (Member # 4563) on April 08, 2023, 07:18 AM:
 
I don't think being a veteran is a prerequisite for being a coyote hunter. Or, for that matter, for running a dying website.

I don't see a problem with snowman or skinny, but the rest are a joke. You would think they would pick people that had a good head on their shoulders instead of ass kissing morons.

The place is dead, half of the posts are by the admin or the mods talking to each other. As to members, they are sitting on the bank waiting for the fish to come by.

Most of the staff are guys that came along in the 2011-2015 era, they don't have a clue what made PMS what was in the 2002 to 2010 time slot. The ones that were around in the early days slept thru it. So now its broken, and they don't have what it takes to fix it. Guys that were there then like DAA have their own agenda and PMS ain't it. The MOD's, what can you say about them? Irreverent?

They actually have paid advertisers! Where in the hell do you find people stupid enough to advertise on a site that has no members. They say they have 55.000, I say that is a lie based on signups that never came back, or left years ago. Active is closer to 50. LOL

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 08, 2023, 07:36 AM:
 
Hey ..... Could somebody go 'over there' and find out if a gain twist .223 barrel on my Mini-14 would make it a 300 yard coyote killin' machine ??

Thanx !!!!


 

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Posted by Dan (Member # 4563) on April 08, 2023, 07:40 AM:
 
It will, BUT, only if you shoot them in the right eye (the same eye you use to look thru your scope)
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 08, 2023, 08:23 AM:
 
So? Some of your narrative seems believable, most of it. Binos on a coyote stand? I can say probably never have I done it, not useful.

Well, nothing wrong with a 22-250 that a Ackley Improved wouldn't cure. If they have swallowed the koolaid about those long for caliber bullets, that's kind of a failure of concept. Coyote hunting should not be a long range effort, the idea is to get them in close to where everybody says is the average kill inside 100 yards. But there is lots of chatter about banging steel at long range and heavy bullets with a high BC are the ticket. But like binos, launching long heavy bullets at coyotes is kind of stupid if it's done intentionally. Likely quite a few passthroughs and cripples, so that shit makes no sense. I'm assuming you are providing accurate information?

I just can't figure the angles? For any of the players, from PS, (porn stach) to the Rambo quintuplets?

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 08, 2023, 09:50 AM:
 
Well so much for that idea ........... I'm left handed.
Guess that I'll be hunting coyotes again this year with the recurve & pointed sticks.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 08, 2023, 09:50 AM:
 
Leonard Mule team six is plastered all over u-tube, I watched a few and got sick of it, too much stupid shit like you said don't make any sense. Also have a few buddies that know them better than I and how I found out about the haybale blinds and shooting over stockpiled dead cows but you can also see that in one of their u-tube vids. Not much of the crap they do is kept a secret.

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I think you missed the point and probably never seen one of their vid.s. No problem with a guy wearing camo when needed but these guys go way overboard if you ask me. They dress up like a Swat team or seal team six like they on some special mission. LOL Thats how they got the name Mule team six. Most of their equipment has a military name they made up. Like the rifle is called a platform or M-5as-1164 ect. They can call it what ever they like but its way overboard stupid! They go coyote calling and think they on some special seal team opps..
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 08, 2023, 06:46 PM:
 
OK, and ko ko sent me an email the other day. It said something like: Nobody ever played NAVY as a kid. Intimidating, (wrong word) that everybody played ARMY, which is pretty true. Where I come from, anyway. But it's just a dig at our fellow veterans that served in the Navy. Inter service rivalry.

I'm kind of casual about camo. The latest style isn't very important and I will commit a fopa by mixing tops and bottoms if I feel like it. Real hard core like Victor won't even wear camo pants, just Levi's or similar.

But, the thing is, stand selection is way more important than wearing that hi tech Kieu? what's that real popular high end brand? I don't have any, myself. I can make due with anything, and I wear lots of military camo too, sometimes.

Anyway, here's my confession. I really don't like hunting with the guys that use some type of AR "platform". For some reason they like to stick their rifle in the back with the safety on a loaded chamber. I don't mind a bolt handle up, it's as good as a safety, as long as it's pointing sideways. I'm just a fossil and I don't like hunting with a so called assault weapon. AR15's have caused so much grief within the hunting community, I could do without them, EXCEPT FOR THE SLIPPERY SLOPE ANGLE.

But, we can't relax about AR15 because that moron Biden is already calling for SEMI-AUTO BANS, and half the population doesn't understand the distinction.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on April 09, 2023, 02:48 AM:
 
I got to agree with you Leonard. A long shot for me was a 100 yarder. Almost all the coyotes I have ever called and shot could have been handled by a shotgun but I just liked using my rifle. Shotgun, sometimes, pistol, more frequently than a shotgun. In fact if I was competent with a bow and stick I could have probably scored on more than a few but I just don't use archery gear.
And hauling a boatload of crap around with you to a stand I always thought was pretty stupid. I did use a pad to sit on that the turkey hunters use a lot cause of stickers in the ass and the cold from the snow in the winter.
Can't help but get a good laugh at stuff I have seen people think will instantly turn them into coyote wake-em and stack-em coyote predator control experts. When common sense about what you are doing works so much better.
On and on and on.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 09, 2023, 06:01 AM:
 
I been down in your country few times Leonard and agree when calling in all those bushy areas you don't need camo, coyote sneaks in and should be dead as soon as it shows its self. Same for Bino's in your country not much use for them on a 100-yard stand or less.
But in other parts of the country camo does give you a bit of a edge when calling more open country, better to blend in than look like a big object that just don't fit in.
I learned a thing this winter about night calling over snow, don't wear white camo as it sticks out like a sore thumb at night. I started to wear dark colors and may switch over to something all black.
At night a coyote will let you know if it sees you, they will lock their eyes on you and not move another step or make a big circle trying to get down wind. Had one coyote go as much as 3/8 of a mile to get down wind of me because it didn't want to go near the road.
Even though its dark out and makes them easier to call they still use a lot of caution if they have a little age on them. Night calling hear is a little different game and still learning from the coyotes as they the best teacher.
Bino's have their place here and in more open country, But should be used at the end of a stand to look for any Peaker's that just show the tip of their ears or part of their head and farther off they are the harder it is to pick them up with the naked eye and glassing with a scope just sucks.
Another good time to use Bino's is at night if calling under a full moon or with lights you can scan the area and pick out a coyote roughly 300-400 yards out, like said it sucks trying to scan with a scope. From what I can tell a coyotes night vision they can see from roughly 400 yards out and the darker the sky the less they can see. Something to also keep in mind if you are going back after one that was missed before from a multiple stand.
As far as playing Navy goes the wife's battleship blew the hell out of my Pt. boat every time.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 09, 2023, 06:04 AM:
 

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Can't help but get a good laugh at stuff I have seen people think will instantly turn them into coyote wake-em and stack-em coyote predator control experts.

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I'm in same boat as Jay I carry a pack of smokes along as well and even smoke on stand. On stand if a coyote gets down wind of it, it's going to smell me regardless, you can't fool a coyote nose.
Been smoking since I was 16 years old and the year the wife got sick, I made a doctor's appointment for a checkup. x-rays, blood work and few other things. The report came back clean. A few weeks before wife passed away, I had another checkup due to a a pain just below my chest which turned out to be bad heartburn. I had x-rays done again as well as blood work and a new doctor. The Doctor was really surprised with my results and wanted me to come in every six months so he could check me over (do follow ups) as he couldn't figure out why I was so healthy for someone that smokes for as long as I have. Sure, the crap will probably kill me someday, but not today.

Little bow hunting story for Koko:
Years ago, when i use to bow hunt, I'd set up along a fence line that was 100 yards from a large woodlot and just sit or lay on the ground and wait for the deer to come out just before dark. I was smoking at the time and had a little button buck come out of the woodlot and it got to my down wind and for some reason it took interest in the smoke from my cigarette and approached me to about 15 yards and just stood there. I picked up a small dirt clump and kind of tossed it at the button buck and it ran off into the field to feed. Year later I'm set up in same spot laying on the ground and here came a nice little 6-point buck that took interest in the smoke from my cig., Came to about 20 yards and I took a couple of pictures this time and then off the buck went. Another season has passed and here I am set up on the fence-line again smoking a cig. and all of a sudden here comes a nice 12 pt, zooming in on my scent. I slowly lower my hand to the ground and put my smoke out and got my bow ready and took a broadside shot when deer got about 20 yards away. I saw the arrow fly through the field behind the deer and thought the bugger jumped the string and I missed. The deer ran into the field and then just dropped like it got hit in head by a hammer and then I noticed all the blood on the ground, oh my there was a lot of it! The rack is now on the wall and my biggest bow kill to date.
 

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Posted by Jay Nistetter (Member # 140) on April 11, 2023, 08:31 AM:
 
Tip:
Back in the trapping days, when setting a leghold we'd light a menthol cigarette and gently lay it over the dusted pan and let it burn down after leaving. Worked great for coyotes and cats.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 11, 2023, 09:47 AM:
 
Yeah, when I was trapping I emptied the contents of an ashtray into a dirthole set and put in a urine post set about 25 feet away just for yucks & giggles. Two days later I caught a double there.

Caught my share of coyotes with scents from the fishing aisle at Wally World, too.

Had a few coyotes (that I know of) come in from the downwind back when I was smoking.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 11, 2023, 10:08 AM:
 
"You can't fool a coyote nose".
Actually, you can. Elk, too.
When I lived in Olympia (Gawd-awefull place) there was a guy in the archery club who was a truly fanatical elk hunter. Said that he had tried everything to fool an elk's nose to no avail. I told him that I had some stuff that would work but only if he was really dedicated and pure of heart.
This had his undivided attention as well as his girlfriend's who was there with him.
I told him that he needed to do the usual shower, baking soda routine and then apply the stuff I had a jar of.
Del Krammer's Call Lure. It was as far as I could tell pure skunk juice in a Vaseline base. Beyond powerful stuff.
I explained that if he warmed the jar up to melt the lure and then applied it all over his body with a clean basting brush everywhere, even behind the ears, between the toes, down the crack & under the sack he could move among the elk undetected.
He wrote down the address on the jar.
I don't know if he tried it or not, but to the day I moved away his girlfriend hated me.
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 11, 2023, 11:41 AM:
 

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Tip:
Back in the trapping days, when setting a leghold we'd light a menthol cigarette and gently lay it over the dusted pan and let it burn down after leaving. Worked great for coyotes and cats.

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Do not ever expect a coyote to approach your stand from downwind just because you are using spray urine. On the other hand, if you are already lined up on him and he stops to sniff your scent (for no more than 5 seconds), this is the only valid reason for using scent, AT NIGHT. (edit) You had better be ready to shoot the fucker RIGHT NOW!

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I expect the coyote to come into my sound cone, that's how I set up and yes agree be ready to shoot. But that's also a no brainer should always be ready to pull the trigger when the shot feels right.

I used to carry some type of squeaker, mainly for fox but now days I leave it at home. Many times, I got a coyote coming in on vole mouse and just let it play out and works for me.
I understand what you trying to accomplish with misting, and it has some merit. Problem here is the wind don't always blow very straight like one would think and I also hate the taste of the mist on my lips. Need something with a stick attached to get it away from the body or it just swirls back at you some. ick!
Maybe next winter I'll give it a whirl again as I have a solution on how to keep it away from me.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 13, 2023, 07:06 PM:
 
You are bringing up some things that will always cancel misting, like a gusting wind or in canyons, which Minnesota folks don't understand but coyotes understand conditions, and if it's swirling and gusty, they know that going downwind has limited value. Sometimes in canyons and if you are oriented in certain ways, your scent will tend to go up and over and a coyote won't get any of it, put the bottle away.

It's not very smart to use coyote urine if it's going to be blown back in your face! Put it away!

Here's the deal. If a coyote is important, and the conditions are favorable, then this is a friggin' BONUS that you would never get without misting. Some would say it's a waste of time, or it only works under the right conditions. I have seen conditions pretty much the same in some places I like to hunt all night long. Under a new moon, with high pressure, meaning it's cold, with a light, steady breeze, this is excellent conditions for misting, and I wouldn't be without it, (mist) when it's like this.

I should also mention that this is very difficult to do if you are alone. you really need a independent shooter working closely while you work the light and flood the down wind with mist. Your shooter needs to know what's going on without you telling him and he needs to have that gun ready for the shot when the animal stops. You got maybe 5 seconds before he gets wise and is GONE! I can't make it any clearer than this. It only takes a couple coyotes downwind to understand what needs to be done. I also admit that some people just don't get it. <sigh>

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 13, 2023, 08:10 PM:
 

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which Minnesota folks don't understand but coyotes understand conditions, and if it's swirling and gusty, they know that going downwind has limited value. Sometimes in canyons and if you are oriented in certain ways, your scent will tend to go up and over and a coyote won't get any of it, put the bottle away.

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I should also mention that this is very difficult to do if you are alone. you really need a independent shooter working closely while you work the light and flood the down wind with mist. Your shooter needs to know what's going on without you telling him and he needs to have that gun ready for the shot when the animal stops. You got maybe 5 seconds before he gets wise and is GONE! I can't make it any clearer than this. It only takes a couple coyotes downwind to understand what needs to be done.

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The nice thing about thermal scopes is you don't need a partner; you see the whole game unfold before your eyes the second the coyote shows up in the scope which can be half mile out. Most guys here now use a tri-pod (bog-pod) for nightstands.
Gun is set up at eye level and locked in for hands free use and stable enough for shots out to 400 yards if not more. You can read a coyote's body langue through the scope as well so you get a pretty good idea of what it will or will not do. Young stupid coyotes tend to come straight in to about 100 yards but the ones that been messed with or have some age on them play a little different. They come to about 300 yards give or take and then start a big circle to get down wind and taking their time about it. All you can do is just hope they come in just a little closer for a shot or you just let them walk. Take note of that coyote and change up stand selection or sounds used or even how long you play them. Some like it short and sweet and some want it continues but you don't know till the first stand with them.
As far as getting mist on me that was Higgens doing, he was sitting just to my right on a dirt pile, with me down wind of him. Coyote on way in and Higgens gives it a few shots of mist and coyote stops about 8 feet in front of me and I had a scoped rifle and yes, the coyote died right there. And just think there was a guy at camp that told me 3 hours prior to my hunt I couldn't hunt with him because I was using a rifle with scope. (clever Gary)
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 14, 2023, 08:05 AM:
 
Ok ........... Unless there are situations where using mist is actually detrimental like getting it on Tim (although some might C that as a plus) if it don't hurt why not use it .......... IF using mist increases ones confidence, whether justified or not ???
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 14, 2023, 02:43 PM:
 
Well....

I think, if the conditions are not favorable, such as gusty variable wind, the coyote already knows that he is wasting his time seeking the downwind And , when wind is gusty and variable, like blowing through forest or maybe canyons: Everybody is wasting their time because nobody knows where the hell is DOWNWIND. And the coyote ain't going there because he doesn't know where downwind is, any more than you do. Put the bottle away and plan on taking a shot at a stationary animal, assuming you can determine that it's not a deer or some other kind of critter.

I suppose you could say; well it doesn't HURT to spray mist, but 98% of the time, it IS a waste of time, but go ahead and do it it it helps your MOJO. The thing is, this shit ain't magic, it won't make for ideal conditions where ideal conditions do not exist.

All I can say is when conditions are right, and you know what you are doing and, I don't know, maybe it's a little like Bass fishing with a spinner bait? You have to know what that little bump is and how to respond.

As far as what tim said about scanning with a thermal. Just plain scanning with a scoped rifle is tiring and awkward. And thermals are usually heavier than conventional scopes and if you can do it all night, while also holding a rifle, more power to ya. And, I know about tripods. Not a sure fire solution, in my opinion. Thermal goggles are the answer, just as I have been saying for many years, but with Night vision. You are vastly improved working as a team, than solitary. Personally, we always hunt wilderness areas and having a partner in a tight situation, mechanical or even medical, I do not like hunting alone. Especially predators. Some guys are always hunting alone and maybe it's because they make a crummy partner, always contrary and argumentative and nobody wants to hunt with them anyway. I've changed out ujoints in 100* desert and Wyoming cold and being able to share the work and responsibilities just make so much sense that it's not debatable.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 15, 2023, 10:13 AM:
 
Leonard depends on who's thermal you have and use. Mine has a generous eye relief with nice big lens to look through and no we don't scan the area up here without the rifle being in a tri-pod, bi-pod or shooting sticks. My scope also has a big rubber eye cup you put your face up against to keep unwanted light out, hard on the eyes if you don't use one. With tri-pod I can scan 360 degrees and not that big of a deal to move around. Since a shooter is standing at night, they still need some sort of back drop or cover to blend in with, coyotes see pretty good in dark as well and no moon calling is best.
As for thermal and night vision there is a difference between the two. Night vision only good for roughly 300 yards if you have a good one to start, I do have a Mono but don't use it. With night vision that 300 yard range is also the I.D. distance where you can pick up the coyote and you will see the coyote through the scope full body with greenish background, pretty close to what you see using a plain rifle scope. The night vision would-be a better choice than using a light source or full moon.
My thermal has a spotting range of over a half mile, can see cattle at a mile away. My I.D. range is around 800 yards with positive I.D. at 500 yards. All this was proven/tested in the field. If a coyote is in some tall grass soon as it sticks it head up it will be spotted. I can watch the coyote the whole time as it comes into my stand and also read its body langue and see how it reacts to whatever sounds I'm using on the caller, and the rifle will always be pointed at the coyote waiting for it to close the distance. Once coyote is spotted, I can also take my eye away from the scope so not to get any eye strain.
My scope also comes with a positive quick release so it can be taken off the rifle at any time and used just for scanning and then put back on very quickly and still on zero.
My Nephew likes to try his hand at calling so I got him a thermal to use and he makes payments in mean time. I let him choose the thermal brand and he went with a different brand which is smaller in size compared to mine and also comes with quick release mounts so it can be used as a hand scanner.

It doesn't have all the bells and whistles like mine but gets the job done and better than using a light or full moon. Only bad thing about a thermal is Humidity but humidity as affects a spotlight as well so no loss there, I guess. U-tube has plenty of night hunts using thermal so a guy can go there and see what I'm talking about.
Every year the weather here is different and there are days or even weeks when I can't run the dogs and I'll never go back to group hunting, so I decided to make the jump and get a thermal and glad I made the jump. There is so much to learn from our coyotes and night hunting just upped the learning process or added to it, knowledge is power. LOL
 

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Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on April 17, 2023, 03:54 PM:
 
Some of the guys stirring up shit over there remind me of the same guys that created the "Monster site" or what ever it was called several years back. had the same type of colorful names for people like the frog guy.

I know Vic and I joked about one guy that has a show and dresses like an Operator, merc. Personally, IDGAF.

Now I get the opinion that Cal thinks pretty highly of those young men, long hair or not. Hell I had long hair back in the 70's myself, before Uncle Sam gave me a haircut and put me in a green uniform.

Again, I use several different cartridges, calibers, and types of rifles. Just how I roll, but contrary to LB's above statement, I have an empty chamber to and from my stand. I chamber up when I get there. I require others to do that also when then ride in my vehicle. For Obvious reasons.

Night hunting using thermal and NV seems to be blasting off over there. I'm not there yet, but think I would like to do it, but it is expensive.

Lately where I generally call, most shots are close to 100 yards now, Don't get too many at the call, maybe it is like you said before LB, seems everyone has a Foxpro, and blast Lightning Jack. Maybe I should try "Misting"?

Hell I usually wear a chest pack, don't always bring binos, mostly a lazor range finder and pistol, 'cause I do hunt on the border sometimes. Hope that doesn't make me a Dork, or Simp!
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2023, 08:12 AM:
 
I've hunted the border for many years, but I never really felt that I had to carry a side arm? The only humans I normally run in to are Papagos, Cocopah's or Border Patrol. The Mexicans usually hide in a gully until dark, or something? And most of them are mules, with 20 kelos of weed. Anyway, if I can't defend myself with my rifle, I kinda deserve whatever I get. And, as far as I'm concerned, a holstered pistol is a pain in the ass with a slung rifle. Yeah, they have those drop down tactical holsters but they are a problem when sitting in the dirt or on a rock.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: well, maybe a shoulder holster of some kind, or chest holster like you might pack in bear country.

edit: The Monster Board? Man, I haven't even thought about that for quite a while. The "man" behind that was Gary Clevenger, (most everybody would remember him substituting HAMBURGER for some swear word) He attended our Pichacho Peak campout, so some may have met him? He treated it like a contest, confided in me that he had killed 5 coyotes, which he said was more than anybody else! Strange for a community and cordial get together? He had a contest attitude, which was warped in my opinion. We didn't get along, bad dude. edit: yeah, "dresses like an operator" would fit Gary, but he had a pony tail.

[ April 18, 2023, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on April 18, 2023, 08:53 AM:
 
It's a brave new world down on the Biden Border now that he's put the Welcome Undocumented Future Democrat Voters mat out.

This is a case where something like the Ruger .380 LCP in a Sneaky Pete holster shines. Mayhap not the best choice in a gunfight but at least something that one can always have with them. A wise man once said "The best gun to have in a fight is the one you have with you."
 

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Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on April 18, 2023, 10:57 AM:
 
Whole different world I am told. I can remember partying south of the border back in the early 80's. Now that place scares me.

I tend to CC when traveling. Generally don't feel the need for a pistola when I have a rifle, 'cept sometimes a 22LR kill gun. But down there, again, too many "Bad Guys".

Just wanted to add, I always wanted to bass fish and hunt in Old Mex, probably the furthest south I fish now is TX, Okieland, or that third world country, Arkansas.

[ April 18, 2023, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: DanS ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on April 18, 2023, 01:46 PM:
 
South of El Paso in Chihuahua there is a Lake Guzman, I just wonder what it's like in the time of the cartels? Maybe I don't want to know? Just when I never thought Mexico could get more fucked up, it is certified insanity to travel down there anymore. And, believe it or t, I used to hop the border fence once in a while to retrieve a Mexican coyote that I couldn't entice in crossing the fence which used to be a double 4 strand bobbed wire, with the monuments set up another 20-30 feet past the wire. I never measured the monuments but they were spaced out maybe every quarter mile, and I assumed that was the actual international boundary. On the other hand I remember years ago traveling the border road in New Mexico that goes towards El Paso. That fence had red metal signs announcing that it was the Federal Republic of Mexico, and there was an abandoned elevated railroad track and a telegraph line on poles with most of the wire down and most of the insulators stolen. It was down along there, around a station, (abandoned) that I killed the biggest bobcat EVER! I took a photo of that cat at night with the headlights and the damned cat was stretched completely across the two track, a big lanky Tom. Should have had that one mounted, and I don't even have the photo any more....and that's a damned shame. I never had to cross the border in New Mexico, this was just west of Columbus, which was where Pancho Villa raided, whenever that was 1908 maybe? Not much had changed last time I passed through. It would be nice if that two headed calf is still on the wall at the Animas gas station and whatever it was, some kind of dance hall? That's some interesting country, for sure. It think it's called San Juan pass, down in that boot area. Way back then, they used to hand dead coyotes from the fences; supposed to be a warning to other coyotes to stay. Gee, as smart as coyotes are, you would think they would get the message? BWAAA HHAA HA

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by TA17Rem (Member # 794) on April 22, 2023, 06:51 AM:
 
Hanging dead coyotes from a fence is still practiced all over the country which is done to show a hero his greatness and not cared for by many of the landowners. Some areas have boots on the fence posts, must have belonged to the guys hanging dead coyotes on the fence.
 

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