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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 16, 2021, 05:33 AM:
Got home around noon from Prescott after a docx appt for my wife , as I was opening the gate it started to rain , continued for about four hours a real gully washer we had streams ruining thru the property It was just what We"ve been needing supposed to happen again on Saturday !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 16, 2021, 07:20 AM:
QUIT STEALING ALL OF MY RAIN !!!!
Don't make me hire Chadwick the Wickless to send you a 'cease & desist' order.
We're getting the lightening & thunder but very little rain.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 17, 2021, 05:58 AM:
Light rain most all nite boy we need it have you ever seen it so dry that junipers were dying all through the forest younger ones without established root systems many 15 to 20 ft !brown and dead !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 17, 2021, 08:25 AM:
Sounds like you have lots of fuel, (dead trees) for next fall and fire season?
This is off the wall, nothing to do with your northern AZ situation but I have been showing my son in law all the Palo Verde trees people are planting around town. It's part of the general drought landscaping that has become so popular in Upland the past few years. You can spot a Palo Verde a mile away. One thing I have noticed around this time of year is how messy they can be, the blossoms continue to fall and the tree is busy making more and the ground under the tree has all those bare "straws" that litter the ground. These trees might not have a leaf worth talking about, but there is a surprising amount of litter involved. And I say this as a pool owner, comprmendamundo? HOWEVER, I really like Palo Verde! They seem to do well in this area. I grew mine from seed and now it's full grown, must be 20 foot tall by now?
I wonder why nobody plants Mesquite and/or Ironwood? I almost forgot that we have a Nursery not too far from here and I browse there once in a while. But the amazing thing is this Nursery is located under a power line right of way, one of those utilizations of land where you can't build a structure but you can grow plants and trees. The amazing thing is that they have one of the largest Mesquite trees I have ever seen, anywhere, including the entire southwest. West Texas has a spindly variety of Mesquite you could mistake for a weed! I'm not kidding this Mesquite is a beauty, by far the biggest I have ever seen, any where! Must be because they water it regularly and maybe fertilize it as well.
My theory is prevailing wind. When driving I-10 between LA and Phoenix, you will notice areas where the only trees are Palo Verde, Mesquite or Ironwood. Seldom do you see assorted, it's one of them and not the others. Maybe it's because of the wind won't blow those Palo Verde "peanuts" in a westerly direction? I also notice that Cal Trans has been planting Palo Verde landscaping on the LA to Las Vegas route and all along I-40 from Barstow to Needles. Historically, never had them, it's all introduced trees. They would grow along the washes if there was a way for the seeds to get there. It's like all over Southern California, we have many Eucalyptus, planted 100 years ago as wind breaks, but Armstrong imported them from Australia. That was his claim to fame, right here in Upland, Eureka Lemon and Eucalyptus. So, pay attention because it will be on the test!
Excuse the rambling,
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 17, 2021, 12:30 PM:
Glad you're getting rain.
We got rain yesterday too. About 40 drops and I didn't even get damp. More coming starting Monday but also Lightning.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on July 20, 2021, 03:17 AM:
Some of you monsoonal moisture finally arrived yesterday.
Must of rained off and on most of the night got up to .16 of moisture.
We'll take any and all moisture right now.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 20, 2021, 01:06 PM:
One thing that always comes to mind whenever someone talks of MONSOONS is the amazing phenomena when those frogs dig out of the stream beds and are hopping all over the place, and on to the backs of female frogs or toads, whatever you want to call them? It's incredible that they can lie dormant for months and yet, after a few hours of a good rain, they "reanimate" and are alive and well, reproduce and then crawl in a hole and cover up for months. Doesn't seem like a very interesting life but I assume this cycle has been going on for centuries?
All I know is it is beyond amazing to see thousands of very lively frogs in the desert and you would never expect they are surviving under a few inches of sand, in hundreds of washes waiting for the next soaking. It's really unbelievable! I have driven, at night on pavement and this is no bullshit; you have to slow down and be careful because the road is slippery and slimy due to all the live and squashed frogs on the road. Really unbelievable!
I've only seen this on the Papago, buy I suppose it occurs other places?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 21, 2021, 05:54 AM:
I have a wet spot in the middle of the road must be a thousand toads ! Mesquite trees are massy and unnecessary Pain in the ass , now Palo Verde tress a graceful and beautiful , iron wood just grow so slow you wont se much out of you lifetime !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 21, 2021, 05:57 AM:
In phoenix when land was to be developed permits were give to trans plant and box the large natives this is where we got our ironwoods !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 21, 2021, 06:38 AM:
There are a surprising number of Ironwoods along the I-10 between Indio and Blythe. Some people don't know what to look for. There are a number of old growth Palo Verde growing in washes, big ones!
I can tell you this much, since I grew my Palo Verde from seed. It's around 10/12 years old and it's over 20 foot tall and it has two trunks about 5 feet in diameter. So, if thy get a little water now and then, they grow pretty fast!
That nursery under the Power Line; I have seen them with a 20 gallon size Palo Verde sub-species that is thornless and I think the tag said $300? I don't think I'd be tempted. How about the Cat's Claw Acacia? If you can find them? In parts of west Texas they have what's called a Screw Bean Mesquite.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 23, 2021, 05:31 AM:
The monsoon hit like a hurricane yesterday .
High winds thunder and lightening torrential rains about four inches in less than an hour! went out when I saw it coming to be sure the windows were closed in Suzanne's quilting room Was stuck in their for the duration
water was coming in around the windows and around the door never seen anything like it !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 23, 2021, 03:06 PM:
No good deed goes unpunished! ha ha!
That reminds me of the time I stepped out of the motel room to cross the street and get a soda. On the way back I got hit by a cloudburst and dashed into the room dripping wet like I fell in the pool. Pat was laying on the bed close to the door and thought I was nuts. He got up to have a look and it was all over. Luckily, the street was still wet so he believed me.
Actually, I was not aware that monsoons happened that far north as Ash Fork? On the other hand, a few years ago, we had very monsoon like thundershowers scattered all over southern California.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 24, 2021, 05:49 AM:
Thunder and lightning very very freighting Galileo Figueroa Rained all friggin night !
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 24, 2021, 06:36 AM:
Finally getting some rain down this way.
The weeds are growing so fast I can hear them conspiring against me. Next comes the humidity.
It ain't always easy living in Paradise !!!!
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 25, 2021, 04:11 AM:
All tolled we got about 8 inches last week according to my kidde pool rain gauge !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 25, 2021, 06:00 AM:
According to my Chinese made rain gauge that may or may not be calibrated in Mandurian, we've gotten a couple of inches of good soaking rain.
I've got an outdoor cat that actually goes out and plays in the rain. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Swats at mud puddles and just has a good time. Damnest thing I ever seen.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on July 26, 2021, 03:37 AM:
Sounds like a dog which makes it acceptable and not Chinese take out !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2021, 06:15 AM:
"Chinese Takeout"
Now that's funny !!!
I'm told that outdoor cats are Hell on scorpions so I keep them around. The place was infested with scorpions when we moved in ......... now not so much so there may be something to it.
Posted by tedo (Member # 4320) on July 26, 2021, 06:53 AM:
The first place we lived in down in Arizona was infested with scorpions, I didn't realize how bad until I bought a black light....holy shit I killed about fifty the first night. Dispatching the bastards with a walking stick or stomping was OK then moved on to spray type insect killers but they didn't provide the instant satisfaction I desired, finally started using my propane torch which almost instantly lead to their demise.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2021, 08:28 AM:
Spiders and roaches, I use the awesome Bug-A-Salt weapon. Scorpions with their exoskeleton are not a sure thing with it. I prefer the poison spray, and let them rum back into a crack or under something, hoping that they carry the poison into a nest.
Funny thing, although it wasn't at the time, walking around with a Black Light for scorpions which light up, I almost stepped on a rattlesnake which doesn't light up. Fun times on a dead end dirt road.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2021, 09:19 AM:
And for the record;
My cat can vomit better designs on the patio than Hunter Biden can paint.
I swear, someone with 'puter skills could do one of those posters, 'This is your brain (Frazetta artwork) and This is your brain on crack (Biden artwork). ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 26, 2021, 01:40 PM:
HOW ABOUT THIS? LAST NIGHT BETWEEN 2 AND 3 AM WE HAD A PRETTY SEVERE CLOUDBURST!
I mention this because our whole summer is almost always rainless. June, July and August: expect no rain and you will not be disappointed.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on July 26, 2021, 01:58 PM:
I can't help but wish I could send some of our rain to you. Have had many inches in the last two months. Enough so that I have taken the tractor and have box graded my neighbors and our driveway twice. Humidity today was way high along with the temp at 93 and coming out of the store reminded me of working down in Lost Wages. Step out from air conditioned casino into a blast furnace. Raining and thundering as I type this.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 26, 2021, 05:39 PM:
Build a pipeline. We'll take all you got to spare.
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