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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 12, 2019, 06:11 PM:
 
You better check in here, or a few of your friends are going to be upset!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 12, 2019, 06:15 PM:
 
Yup she's sitting up there looking down on me..

I mean really. Who gives a fuck about some asshole on the "net"

Talk to us..

[ June 12, 2019, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 12, 2019, 06:53 PM:
 
Been giving this some thought;
Earthwalker is a respected member around this 'electronic campfire' who's posts most of us find interesting.
Then there's some clod who contributes nothing yet makes demands regarding someone else while hiding behind a computer screen ?????
It must really suck to be him.
 
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 12, 2019, 07:07 PM:
 
Sadly, we all have at least one of "that guy" in our life.
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 13, 2019, 03:00 AM:
 
I hope she's just on a short break.

I wouldn't blame her for staying away though. I mean, really, who needs the shit?

To me, Leonard posting it on behalf of the fuck face ain't much different than the fuck face posting it him or herself. Fuck face gets the same attention and shit stirring he or she wants either way. Earthwalker gets shit on in public just the same either way.

I'd be pretty pissed off about having that posted, if I was her.

Been saying it forever. Leonard, you are just feeding the fuckers by publicizing their bullshit.

- DAA
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 13, 2019, 03:17 AM:
 
We are with you EW I would not piss on the punk if he were on fire! Probably could have gone my entire life without knowing he existed !
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2019, 05:48 AM:
 
Well Dave, you and I have a slightly different attitude about censorship. I don't think the reflection is on Earthwalker, this is about some small person doing something indefensible, and I'm calling him out for the prick that he is. Outrageous, not even a member, a fucking lurker and telling ME what to do! And picking on a totally innocent member. Yeah, you don't see it the way I do but in my mind, this asshole needs his pants pulled down. Not publishing his bullshit would be protecting him, and I think, (even if we don't know who he really is) he needs a short course in, fuck you!

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 13, 2019, 06:08 AM:
 
Maybe there wouldn't be so many of them if you didn't give them so much attention and public glory.

Kinda like the media giving mass shooters attention and glory like you are always talking about.

Same thing. From my perspective.

You are giving them precisely what they want. For absolutely no possible gain. How you figure, giving them a platform and attention and causing disruption and loss of membership on Huntmasters is somehow calling them out or getting even with them is beyond me. They are playing you like a fiddle and it's totally their gain and your loss.

That's my view on the anonymous commenters. I wouldn't even read that shit if I were you. Let alone post it up for shit stirring and insulting long time members in good standing.

Which, again, just my view, but I would have been insulted as FUCK by you posting something like that had it been about me. Hell, you occasionally have posted comments about me made by anonymous fuck wads and I didn't appreciate it one bit. But they have never been anywhere near the level of offensive and insulting as what YOU posted about Earthwalker. So, someone else wrote it. You took upon yourself to act as the mouthpiece for the otherwise never to be seen or heard from anonymous fuckwad and put it out in public.

I couldn't disagree more strongly with how you approach these situations.

You owe Earthwalker an apology, as far as I'm concerned.

- DAA
 
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 13, 2019, 07:24 AM:
 
Agree, strongly...

quote:
Not publishing his bullshit would be protecting him
Leonard, it's your board & prerogative. But, as Dave laid out above, not a valid rationale for yourself to shitpost a 3rd party's shitposting against a contributing member. No matter WHO it is...

Hope you can see how alienating that is. If the intent was to 'stir the pot' to drum up replies, the downstream consequences will be 180 degrees the opposite. Just sayin...

[ June 13, 2019, 07:35 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]
 
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 13, 2019, 07:50 AM:
 
I'm here. Just don't have a computer at the old place now.
Had doctor's appointment yesterday and grocery buying.
Knee is bone on bone and surgery scheduled for Sept 10.
But have to do a month of rehab therapy first. Insurance companies now require it thinking it'll fix it. Just a way for someone else to make money and take it out of my pocket.

Also fell last Friday and I think I broke a rib. If not sure am sore and bruised.

Just got to the mountain this morning. Playing catch up all the time now. Trying to figure out how to get a extra truck up country before fall. Have 3 down at the old place and only 2 drivers.

As for the little pup and his name calling. "You can't run with the big dogs when you pee like a puppy".
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2019, 11:42 AM:
 
We disagree Dave. Nothing this guy has said is a reflection on earthwalker, he has no standing of validity. I am showing these members the crap I put up with. I've had attacks here for 15 years, lots of different assholes, this particular one has just recently had a bug up his ass about earthwalker, but before it's been Krusty, and Anderson and Tom Turner. Always somebody.

I have no apology to make and resent you sharing your opinion on the matter, Dave. It's not your call and not your business.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: no, that's no the reason, Fred. I thought I was just sharing the ignorant stuff that crosses my desk. You are doing a lot of fanboy stuff with Dave, I notice. You both know where to go with your opinions.

[ June 13, 2019, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 13, 2019, 02:37 PM:
 
"...the crap you put up with"...Leonard?

Well, it's waaaay beyond my grasp as to why you even OPEN anonymous emails??? Let alone, share ones that are defamatory & belittling to members who actually add to board content???

Like I prefaced earlier: your board your rules...no quarrels there. Just was providing you some feedback that you might consider, when the next anonymous shit post hits your inbox....

As for calling me anybody's "fanboy", you can FUCK RIGHT OFF with that side step.

You know DAMN well that your board here is a MUCH more interesting place when guys like Dave post.

Will your own ego allow you acknowledge that fact? If so, you'll realize that you've got a board full of "fanboys".

If not, you're a friggn idiot...blinded by your own narcissism. Or, opioids, or whatever...

In your defense, and much to your credit, you've had a forum where interesting people actually feel comfortable enough to post some really cool shit.

Maybe with some reflection, and/or when member(s) stop posting cool shit anymore, you might realize that....by indulging trolls with 'air time', you've actually been played to undermine your own board. Cuz, that's pretty much what you're doing. But, if it makes ya feel better?

Just sayin', if I didn't give at least a half a shit about your board, I'd not have even taken the time to type this, let alone my previous comment.

Take care & happy trails.
 
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 13, 2019, 03:11 PM:
 
And somewhere sitting in the dark, giggling to himself is some piece of shit who got what he actually wanted; us fighting among ourselves.

My suggestion; ……………………… Delete everything that has to do with this subject and we all take a deep breath.
 
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 13, 2019, 04:30 PM:
 
And I'm sitting here trying to figure out which one(s) of us would even have considered embracing the guy's remarks as fact. Wouldn't know earthwalker if she were standing next to me, but going off what she's contributed here, she seems like a member of the tribe. And I appreciate knowing when someone's talking shit about me behind my back. Not so much that I plan to address those issues face to face, but I like to know my enemies. If someone is talking shit about me and a friend of mine hears them talking, I expect them to make sure I know about it. Otherwise, I really have to question their sincerity as my friend.

If you read this guy's remarks, about earthwalker, LB or me, feel free to step up and confess your sins now. No sense hiding under your keyboard.

Otherwise, let's hug it out and remember that we're all friends here. At least, most of us are.
 
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 13, 2019, 04:58 PM:
 
At first I was upset and would have stomped the crap out of his family jewels then cooled off and won't bring myself down to his level.
He has gotten what he wanted a fight. Especially calling me names.

I see my mom's face when things like this come up.
She told me remember. Stick and stones can break your bones but names can never hurt you.

Don't go to his level, let him swing up channel all he wants too.
Don't answer him or acknowledge him at all.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2019, 05:53 PM:
 
Fred, I expect a bare minimum level of respect from you. I'm not running this place to take shit from anybody. Nobody talks to me that way, including you. We are not on a level playing field here. I'm twice your age but if we were face to face, I think I might persuade you to keep a civil tongue in your head. Now, if you have anything more to say about these matters, remember that my patience is limited. You have absolutely no dog in this fight and yet you choose to insult me in my house. I think you are out of line, and no matter that you think I might be. You don't have a vote concerning how I run things around here. I don't intend to threaten you with sanctions, it takes a hell of a lot before we reach that level. I'm saying that your opinions are not helpful and I'd appreciate if you would butt out. And, that crack about opioids? That greatly offends me! Just what are you trying to say? If you have any more lip, send it via email because I'm not entertaining any more abuse here.
LB
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 13, 2019, 06:18 PM:
 
Just received, and as my practice has been, for many years, to post all of this type of unsolicited email broadly categorized as "board war" stuff. I always post it and these people know I always will. So, don't bother to tell me how you feel about it. Okay?

your Earthwalker troll
Thu, Jun 13, 2019 4:38 pm

To nbosin nbosin@aol.com
Leonard, a friend of mine, who'd like to remain anonymous, is on the board at Predatormasters. He told me that Redfrog is behind the anonymous troll who razzed you about Earthwalker. Some of the boys are getting a big laugh out of it in the moderators pit, a few of them have seen Redfrog or the piece of shit poseur that he really is and are getting disenchanted there

It also sounds like Redfrog has been trolling you for years with many false and untraceable email accounts. Since you're about the only predator forum left, he feels the need to sabotage the competition.

Anyway, looks like mission accomplished, he has created a a bunch of infighting on your site. Why the effort? your site has slowed down considerably and predatormasters is only about 20% of what it used to be.

Anyway, just wanted to inform you on what's really going on

(senders name omitted)
 
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 13, 2019, 06:47 PM:
 
I think EW said it all in her post. I'm the only one that's actually met her & her husband.

Probably a safe bet ?

Good folks. Y'all knew that anyway.

It's time to move on girl & boys. Ain't worth it.

What's the name for random fuck heads on the "net"

Shills..
 
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on June 14, 2019, 12:58 AM:
 
quote:
He told me that Redfrog is behind the anonymous troll who razzed you about Earthwalker.
Ha! I thought the red toad might be involved. He's still "seizing and desisting" after all these years. Hiding behind his keyboard while trolling and getting his rocks off the only way he can.
 
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 14, 2019, 03:21 AM:
 
red fraud !
Can that pig even see his rocks without a few mirrors ! I thought his liver would have blown out by now!
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2019, 06:53 AM:
 
I just don't understand human nature. A grown man doing devious stuff on the Internet to what end? Does he stir the shit and then sit back and say: Boy, I sure fucked with some people today and it feels so good! My friend in Dallas is what you might call a philanthropist, she funded the cancer wing of her local hospital at her second home in Colorado, has no actual family and I suppose she gets a lot of satisfaction when she can apply her money to good use. But this kind of thing, sending provocative email and all, I just have to wonder what makes them tick? It's evil, I see no humanity in what he/they are doing, just to be the king of the Predator hunting Universe.

Good hunting. El Bee
 
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 14, 2019, 11:26 AM:
 
I did stick my nose in both Leonard's and Eearthwalker's business.

It's not any of my business and I should have stayed the hell out of it. Wish I had.

I apologize to both of you. Sincerely.

That said. I DO know where to go with my opinions. And my patience is limited too.

- DAA
 
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on June 14, 2019, 12:23 PM:
 
" And somewhere sitting in the dark, giggling to himself is some piece of shit who got what he actually wanted; us fighting among ourselves.

My suggestion; ……………………… Delete everything that has to do with this subject and we all take a deep breath."

I love this suggestion.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2019, 01:42 PM:
 
Dave, I hope we can get past this, I think you are a good man.

Good hunting. El Bee

PS you said there was something before that I did and you didn't like? I don't remember whatever it was but I am wiling to apologize for it, if it will help? I'm sorry if I put something on the Board that you didn't approve of. I'll be more careful.
LB
 
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 14, 2019, 02:24 PM:
 
Leonard, I've always ever been respectful & complimentary of your board and how you handle things. Save for forwarding troll emails to the open board...

As for the disrespectful response, thats a manifestation of the newyawk 'counterpunch' mentality, for which our POTUS gets both praise and contempt for.

Instead of taking me at my word, you sent a shot across my bow with the "fanboy" remark/dismissal. So, ya get a volley fire of blunt response in return...

Is that respectful?

No.

For that, I apologize.

This IS your house, where I'm a guest. You've made it abundantly clear who's welcome and who's not.

In closing, I'd just add,for the sake of the future sanity of Leonard's board...

if ANY OF YOU actually BELIEVE ONE SINGLE WORD of those shit post emails, you need to take several steps back & realize how you're all being played for fools.

FOOLS...

Do you guys truly believe you're being sent accurate info?
From some 'confidential' source???

Does a guy "half your age" need to point out that you're being duped like ignorant rubes???

I don't suffer fools, even those I otherwise respect.

And, if ya can't figure out who the fool is...it's prolly YOU.

Use your friggn' heads for more than a hat rack, will ya?

Take care
 
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on June 14, 2019, 02:42 PM:
 
Well hell...I take alittle trip and come back and we got someone bad talking EW.
I agree with DiYi......LET IT GO!!!
Life's to short to let shit like this go on. It's a sad day when you let something like this start in house fighting. We've all seen this kind of crap before and nobody wins. All it does is splits the ranks and there are to few of us left to do that.
I know that some people would like to see this board go down, but I say to hell with them. For me this is home and I'm here for the long haul, so let's get past this and move on.
I no I'm just a old Okie and have no dog in this fight, but I had to put my 2cents in.
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 14, 2019, 03:26 PM:
 
I can see that you don't get it, Fred. I did not post an email and claim it was was true, I don't know where you got that Idea? Second, you spoke to me disrespectfully and I called you fanboy. That does not mean I started something with you, it means that I was and am still offended by the tone of your lecturing me on how stupid I am in the way I even open unsolicited mail and apparently I think that I believed and accepted this guys interpretation of whatever he had to say. That, in itself is offensive, as is the crack about opioids, so do not think you own the high ground here. I told you, I'm an elderly gentleman and the tone you took with me and continue to take is disrespectful, in my opinion and taking into consideration that you are doing this in MY house. We aren't on equal footing here. I wasn't born yesterday and regardless of how you do things, if my Mac says there is no harmful content, I can open it, and consider, evaluate the content. But, again, it's not, (in my opinion) a shitstorm to post a piece of shit drivel , not as enlightened word from the Almighty. We all understand that, or at least I thought we all understood what it is and that's why I thought I would share it with the members. It is NOT for you to tell me I am wrong. You take care of yourself and don't presume to advise me on how I run this friggin' Board. You are out of line. There might be things you do as a free man that I think are stupid, but the polite thing is to not come in here and tell me how fucked up I am. If you can't understand that not only that I could be offended, but that you don't even have any business questioning what I do, in my own house. You talk about how I should consider Earthwalker's feelings, but have no reservations about publically chastising me! You are publicly putting me down for doing that which you disapprove of. This is different than writing on the subject and saying you wouldn't have done it, you go to great lengths telling me and everybody else, the enormity of my errors. Of course, I'm not going to call you up and ask you if I should make a move without your OK? In other words, when I want your advice, I might ask for it. Until then, you do not have the right to speak to me concerning my actions in a disrespectful manor for any reason, approve or disapprove. That's my view and interpretation of your recent comments about this matter. Again, I take these comments as very disrespectful.The only thing you got right was, my Board, my rules. Maybe you should think about it. If you just thought you were being helpful, you are wrong. It's like this, I'm just a member, as you are a member. But I'll tell you again, I will not allow you to use that tone with me, wrong as I may be. I'm not going to take shit from you. If you are having trouble grasping the respect issue, that reflects on your upbringing. I'm trying to put it in a bunch of different ways, but it's simple, respect your elders, and respect my hospitality.

So, you can come, or you can go, if you can't get past the issue. It's up to you. If you can't show me respect then maybe you should go? But, I am not pushing you in that direction. I'm asking you to speak to me with respect, I don't demand anything but by God, I deserve it! Yes, you piss me off but I can get over it. Can you?
El Bee, HMFIC
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 15, 2019, 09:46 AM:
 
OK

Seems there's little point in continuing this clusterfuck? As with lots of other subjects, I suppose there is little chance of anyone moving the needle one way or the other so, this is a rare remedy for me, but with the concurrence of Lone Howl, I'm locking this thread!

If anybody wants to pursue something further, go ahead and start a new topic but it's probably been deflated to the point where nobody gives a shit, but go ahead and give it a try. I'm always in favor of an open non repressive environment so help yourself.

As usual, when it comes to telling me off, round the corners a little bit, you never know how well I will respond to blunt criticism. Okay, 'til next time, take care. LB
 
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 08, 2019, 07:51 AM:
 
I would like to try to explain something here.

If someone says, Leonard has a lisp and likes little boys; does that mean this is revealed truth? At best, it's an opinion, and if someone writes in and shows everybody what was said about me, I don't consider that an endorsement. What I do consider is it is showing exactly how screwed up some people can be. It's a direct reflection back on the original sender, and people should be aware that they are doing evil things. There is no glory in spreading false gossip, but the way I look at it, it does have some value if we consider who is saying it and what could possibly be their motives? Are they trying to harm EW, or Leonard, or Huntmasters? That seems obvious that it's all three, and by posting their words, that doesn't constitute an endorsement. It shows the mentality of certain people on the Internet, and where they are, but it doesn't reflect on EW, or Leonard, or Huntmasters. So, why would somebody think, wow, look at this? EW and Leonard and Huntmasters are really fucked up!

Anyway, that's not how I look at things. And, if somebody is going to the trouble of posting malicious bullshit, I think some people might want to know about it rather than keeping it to myself. Okay, now this is where we differ. Some people write in and say, if I were EW, I would be offended. But, it might have been anybody, ko ko, Paul, semp, anybody! And saying so on the Internet, doesn't make it so.

Wel, this morning, I reread the whole thing and I still haven't altered my attitude about much. Except I haven't talked about a couple more emails I received, one fro Jeff Mock, who I don't know, but I have heard a lot about, almost 100% negative, but I have not had an opinion on the man, until now. He praised RedFrog as one of the most qualified predator hunters on the planet, among other comments directed at me and Huntmasters. So I guess I will alter a policy I have had for many years and not publish this drivel because somebody might misinterpret my intent and accept the trolls intent instead. I can't help that, but the buck stops here and always has.

It certainly looks like we/me got the kiss off from a few valued members. That's a shame. And, I don't mind admitting that t bothers me greatly. Anyway, that's my final thought on the matter.

Good hunting. El Bee
 




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