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Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 03, 2019, 03:43 AM:

Spring is flying by fairly fast. Or it sure seems like it.
If not at work in the high country cutting wood or building raised beds for the garden.
My carrots are up and doing well along with the first batch of radishes. Have pulled them all up and replanted. My asparagus is doing good I guess having never planted it before or raised it. Out of 12 crowns have 7 or 8 plants up. I know not to pick this season and just a little next year. I have onions coming out my ears thanks to the other half buying a half pound of yellows and half pound of whites. Also have 2 gardens going one at each place. I think I won't have time to turn around. Hoping the garden down in the valley is okay as we've been getting major rain/lightning storms in the afternoons.
Last week of Monday through Friday working. Go on lookout schedule Sunday the 9th.
Have cut a couple loads of firewood already. Snow still blocking the upper elevations so getting into the lodge pole will be a little longer. Been cutting mainly red fir. A lot of dead wood up here due to bugs or fire. So cutting is easy and close by. Drive over 12 miles you're doing something wrong. LOL
Hoping to start going to the shooting range once on lookout time. Finally got the shoulder settled down and can use it again. Just other parts of the body acting up. The knee has a big lateral meniscus tear along with a lot of arthritis. See the surgeon the 12. Being old sucks.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 03, 2019, 05:52 AM:

Getting old? Tell me about it! Like logistics nobody else deals with. I'll be having a epidural procedure as soon as I can gain an actual slot and coordinating it with my neighbor across the street who has a firm date for his knee replacement, and sure as hell, there's likely a conflict! I'm so old fashioned, I don't even have an app for Uber, yet.

What is it with radishes? If there was ever a tiny seed that could make one feel like he has a green thumb, just plant a few radishes. It's so satisfying!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 03, 2019, 08:13 AM:

I plant cactus.
The rabbits eat the cactus.
I eat the rabbits.
Am I a farmer or a hunter ???

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 03, 2019, 03:19 PM:

KoKo you are an opportunist !

Had company coming had to replace the bathroom floor in our 28 ft. camp trailer bathroom that's where our guests stay so I tore out the carpet as well and refloored the entire trailer with weather as it was got it finished the Thurs. before their Friday arrival. Was shitten my pants , but I made it . Ew you make me ashamed of my old self you still haulin ass !

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 03, 2019, 04:17 PM:

Hell, you both shame me. I'm not doing much besides laying in the shade.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on June 04, 2019, 03:18 AM:

The wife decided she wanted chickens. So it's chicken coup building the last couple days. Funny how a one or two day project turns into an all week type of ordeal. Yep getting older, slower and even more confused.
Leonard, not having an ubber app is ok. Wife got me one of those old flip phones that I don't know where I put it.
I'm supposed to be retired, not a worker bee.
Blackberries are ripening along with everything else and the weather so far has been most tolerable to be out fishing.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 04, 2019, 03:57 AM:

Walt;
What ???? !!!! ……….. Not 'Free-Range' chickens ???

Yeah, the older I get, the more I want to be a teen-ager again. I knew everything when I was a teen-ager...……. Now, …. I'm just confused.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 04, 2019, 08:22 AM:

ko ko, it figures you'd be the one to not understand the concept. Free range doesn't mean they have to squat under a bush all night! These chickens want a secure place to crash and they will go there, even in Tennessee.

I have Pinky's aviary inside, and at one time, I had a Mallard and an Iguana that both would come scratching at the outdoor slider every night, walk right into the aviary and in one case, settle into the corner and in the other, climb a piece of carpet and drop down into her aquarium for the night. That's what good breeding does.

Good hunting. El Bee

PS speaking of which, I have a decision to make as soon as those pups are weened. First, do I want one, and second, boy or girl?

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 04, 2019, 09:18 AM:

'Cause I'm confused...……… Remember ??
As in "Wadda ya mean 'She's a hooker ??' I thought she was from the church choir. How'ed we get in this room ??? I'm confused !!!! [Confused]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 04, 2019, 09:21 AM:

Pups ????
You got a big place...…. might as well get a couple of them.

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 04, 2019, 10:04 AM:

Always a bitch males
pee on everything !

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 04, 2019, 10:35 AM:

I know dat! But it's not a lot, don't be such a poop face! Nobody's perfect!

Actually, you nailed it. I spent some time with a lady once, she had a place down at the river with several ankle biters. One was a male Papillon, and I watched him squirt all over the damned house! I told her the reason for the "musty" smell and Mrs Einstein didn't believe me. You can't fix stupid!

I think my mind is somewhat made up. These are Blue Tick/Red Tick crosses, the mother being Blue Tick, (the little tramp!) in other words, it wasn't planned, but the sire has ribbons, so it wasn't his fault, he's from a good family. In any case there's 3 females to choose from.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: major problem; they are in Tupelo, Mississippi.

[ June 04, 2019, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 04, 2019, 12:22 PM:

LB, you don't have the legs for hunting behind a hound.
Neither do I. [Razz]

At the mountain top today. Nice quiet day. Breeze is just right cool enough and keeping the bugs at bay.

Road trip tomorrow to take a look at the other mountain top in the Owyhees.

Eight hour days are a breeze will go on 10.5 hour days next week.

Gardens doing okay about to kill me though keeping up with all of it.

I didn't say getting old I said being old isn't fun. My mom always said she had a ball growing old. Being old sucks.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 04, 2019, 01:41 PM:

I see elderly people all the time. Does anybody else have the impulse to ask them how old they are? I mean, I think about it and guess, but it would be kind of fun to keep score, how many you get right per week. However, then I think, how many of them are going to tell me to fuck off? Might not be the best way to make friends.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on June 05, 2019, 01:35 AM:

Leonard, while hounds are pretty nice dogs they are hunters and you will really never get that broke out of them. Chasing a hound on a Jazzy doesn't quit get it. Get you something like a Golden Doodle.female, Beautiful, smart, more than loving with a soft mouth and talk about a chick magnet. If I wasn't married I could go crazy thinking I am a gigilo, Those women love mine and want to always take her home with them. Just saying.
As for those stinking chickens. I roughly figured out how many dozen eggs you would have to get to break even on what I have spent already and it gets to be in the hundreds. Why I ask, when we already get them free from the neighbors. What a guy won't do to maintain domestic bliss.

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 05, 2019, 03:32 AM:

Lenbo
My Airedales are hunters, get a herding dog they tend to stay home hunters will run off at the drop of a hat ! I have correction collars on mine and walk them each morning bout a mile and a half I built a drag and made a road through my property they now go and check every bush on my land and then kennel up but that was no easy trick it has taken me a while to make this happen , I used to spend a bit of time finding them or waiting for them to come home. You remember my little cattle dog (bump on the head April) Loyal to a fault never left the homestead and kept all the cows and critters off her land ! I once had a tri color walker hound I lived on 475 acres and he could not stay home I was always getting phone calls hey mister I think I have your dog . One day a guy called telling me he had the most beautiful hound he had ever seen I said if you like him keep him that was the end of that.

[ June 05, 2019, 03:37 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2019, 07:33 AM:

But. I have a problem with designer dogs and dogs bred with no earthy redeeming qualities. Pampered. I figure a hound is a "real" dog, an honest dog, no pretenses. I have a fenced yard but that didn't really help with my Redbone. She would hop up on the top of the block wall and travel way down the block, hop into somebody's yard and eat their dog food and come back when she was ready. Or, she would get into their trash and their dog (that was inside), would get blamed. One guy has a wood fence and that didn't stop her, she would walk along the upper 2X4 just like a cat, in fact, she was a great tree climber, unless it was straight up, no branches. I never saw a dog more serious about defending her ass! She would not let another dog sniff her butt. Period. What I'm looking for is a reincarnation.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 05, 2019, 08:18 AM:

Leonard, might I suggest visiting a local dog shelter? Ya never know, ya might just feel a connection to a dog that is in need of a savior...

Just sayin, even if ya have a good idea of what kinda dog ya want, there's a chance that a pound pup could melt your heart and be an ever grateful & loyal companion to you!

If your canine priorities lean more toward a having a 'pal', than it does to have hard wired hunter, mebbe ya see one at the pound that 'speaks to you' in the way that only a good dog can...

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2019, 08:49 AM:

I've been to the no kill animal shelter about four times. All the dogs are rowdy, don't seem friendly, at all. The "cat house" is more friendly, believe it or not? None bark at you, many come up to you, some sit in your lap, none run away. It's strange, I know. I saw a litter of very nice looking pups one time, was tempted, but they wouldn't come up to me, they were in a chainlink enclosure and huddled in the middle. Shrug.

But these hound pups are my son's and he gets a good price for them but I'm not paying a dime, you can be sure of that!

Good Hunting. El Bee

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on June 05, 2019, 08:55 AM:

My family raised coon and bear hounds back in the day... IN CALIFORNIA...my first job ever...not by choice..was feeding 10-15 dogs every morning then shoveling shit in the afternoon. Had all manner of hounds, but Walkers were my favorite. Those bastards could run, and would climb a tree in a second, as high as they could get...then youd have to get their asses down half the time after the bear or coon or bobcat jumped the tree or was shot. Also, if a porcupine was within 5 miles they would get into it, and the rest of the night was spent pulling quills...geezus I hated that.

Mark

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 05, 2019, 11:56 AM:

Kudos Leonard, for going to browse with an open mind. Tough conditions for a dog to show its true personality. I wouldn't doubt that if ya saw a dog that caught your eye and wasn't a complete psycho, you'd be ale to get it lined out pretty quick. After all, you useta have a poodle, right? LOL

Since you're gettin the 'family discount' for a pup, then all I can say is: Delta cargo! Couple of hurdles to jump to get a pup shipped, but it weren't too bad when I did it...

P.s, Mark: ONE tree climber is plenty enough!

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 05, 2019, 01:47 PM:

FWIW; The BEST dog I ever had was a rescue mutt from the pound.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2019, 03:12 PM:

Yeah, these guys at the shelter acted like friggin' GUARD DOGS! Kinda funny, when you think about it? And the price was about $160, half that for a cat. But, it's not really rescue when they aren't going to the gas chamber in the morning, like at the so called Humane Society.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 05, 2019, 07:05 PM:

My little doxie was rescue took two years to turn her around best dog ever !

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 06, 2019, 05:50 PM:

Looks like about a 30* temp swing since this time yesterday.

Earth probably watched the storm roll in ?

Walt, I hear ya on chicken's. I supply my neighbors with eggs. Had a few die off, probably still $30-40 bucks a month to feed my six.

Chicken house came with the place. I see my "other" neighbor just built a nice chicken house. Until his dog fucked with my goats. He had free eggs !!

I'm almost tired of eggs. No biggie though. We should get down to a couple of chickens sooner or later ?

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 06, 2019, 07:12 PM:

What I was trying to say is that the dogs at the shelter aren't friendly, they bark aggressively at anybody walking by their kennel. It's no damned wonder they are still there. Then there was this pit bull, who was out in a fenced yard. Who in the hell would "rescue" a dog so aggressive and intimidating. I love dogs but that one should be put down. They are abusing the whole "no kill" concept.

In fact, I would be in favor of neutering those kind of dogs. Having a killer dog as a status symbol is bullshit. They are man's best friend! Hello?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 07, 2019, 03:31 AM:

Dave
I marvel at the difference between store bought and home grown ,I have neighbor that gives me eggs as I am the local tool loan I have one of everything and two of most. when I say neighbor she is about 3.5 miles away.
She has about 30 some chicken's and they all have names and she knows one from another go figure!

[ June 07, 2019, 03:33 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2019, 06:30 AM:

Sounds like AshFork has invented a new twist on "Cat Lady". Oh well, since they taste so good and she's harmless, not a particularly fair maiden, and most likely, won't lead you astray?

I suppose they are brown, right? Victor, (our hero) used to ranch wild chickens, you know? Known, far and wide, at least clear down to the other side of McNeal for his free ranging and non fertile eggs. Not the eggs free ranging, the chickens! At least the way I heard it?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 07, 2019, 08:27 AM:

Out here free range means they have a good sized enclosure to roam and are not confined to a nest like commercial layers Otherwise the fox coyote and bobcat would have a field day ! Yup she is an animal person has three horses two little hay burner dwarf donkeys and six dogs .LOL

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 07, 2019, 09:19 AM:

I'm thinking expense? My son had a girl friend that was like front line rescue, every time somebody brought in an injured dog or cat, then found out how much it would cost to fix them, the response was usually, ok put it to sleep. But she had an arrangement with the Vet she worked for. They would charge the person for the cost of the euthanasia, then apply it to the cost of the broken leg and she would pay a steep discount and adopt the critter.

She had an Aberdeen cow, three horses, 3 goats, 17 dogs in one group plus her show dogs and about 25 various cats, all neutered and spayed. All this cost money and it was my son that was spending his cash to feed all these rehab cases. In my opinion, she had some kind of obsession but she was very sensitive on the subject. Good thing her mother provided the property that made this all possible.

Number one, what she and the Veterinarian, her boss were doing was probably illegal. But saving the world was a hardship for momma too because her zoning didn't allow for the zoo her daughter was raising.

I love animals but I wouldn't consider spending that much time and effort. I can't really say anything about her efforts except she was enlisting her crippled mother and my mentally impaired son and between the three of them, I'd hate to see what all this compassion was costing, annually?

Something was always out of whack with that operation. My son is gone and her mother wasn't any help at all except for financially, being heavy and severe mobility problems. The thing is, Gwen is and always was the main problem. Compassion run amuck. The dishonesty part always peeved me. shrug.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 07, 2019, 07:25 PM:

Coonhounds are outside dogs. I have two fur babies - both rat terriers - and would highly recommend them. Taz, our five year old red/white female melts the coldest heart. Harley, my 13 year old tricolor male is smarter than most adult humans twice his age. Got Taz to keep Harley company. They're best buds. They sure broke me of my "no livestock in the house" policy.

Have made three trips to my ortho this week. Confirmed meniscus tear, so I'm with you earthwalker. Monday, they'll call with the surgery date. Already told me to stop taking anything for my arthritis pain which sucks because we just found something that works well ten days ago. Not looking forward to the next ten days. Gonna be a grumpy bastard.

LB, think "rattie". They're making a big comeback.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 07, 2019, 08:04 PM:

Aren't 'Ratties' in the 'yappy little bastards' category ????

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 04:23 AM:

Leonard needs a Yapparanian to keep things lively !

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 04:25 AM:

Or get a male and have a sprinkler spaniel !

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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 04:26 AM:

uh oh losing my vowels soon !

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 04:27 AM:

Good luck on your dog selection they are all special friends !

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 08, 2019, 07:11 AM:

It's been my observation that a dog is (generally) a reflection of it's owner. If the owner thinks that he's a bad-ass the dog probably does too. On the other hand, if the owner is a decent sort the dog probably is too regardless of breed.
Hint; get your dog from somebody you'd sit around the campfire and b/s with. Avoid dogs from a wanna-be biker type that keeps dropping hints that he was 'special forces'.

Just $.02 worth.

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 10:03 AM:

ROFLMAO!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 08, 2019, 11:49 AM:

I resent the implication, ko ko! I was regular brown boot Army should anybody ask. If I told the truth i’d Haf ta kill ya.

I don’t know if this is interesting or not but we hear a lot about the “Green Berets”. (will be on the test!)
I’ve seen different colors, like brown worn by Ranger outfits. But the one we saw mostly was black and was worn by the 10th Special Forces. Green was the 1st. This was way before everybody started wearing berets. And, I have no doubt, the novelty’s warn off. We actually wore a blocked field cap, like Fidel Castro. Kinda retro, I’ve got proof somewhere.

Good hunting. El Bee 🐝

Edit: by the way, he who shall not be named is very critical of our experts weighing in about suitable companion dogs for the big cheese. Then he offered advice. Lance, I think just about any dog will adapt to inside status, hounds included.

[ June 08, 2019, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 08, 2019, 12:54 PM:

My comment was not directed at any actual military types whom I have the utmost respect for.
It's the clowns that wear camo field jackets, carry a big knife and try to convince people they're something they're not ……………………….

Prove me wrong, Paul. [Big Grin]

Edit for speling.

[ June 08, 2019, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: Kokopelli ]

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 08, 2019, 02:16 PM:

What the fuck do I have to do with your observation ? don't git me involved Ill have to gut you like a fish in da bushes ! someone have a big knife I can borrow ! btw way I usually hunt in jeans and flannel ! lol

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 08, 2019, 03:05 PM:

BS! ko ko told me that you have a whole collection of Frost Cutlery genuine Bowie Knives, plus that one with the bad ass upside down shoulder harness for Saturday nights down at the Honky Tonk. He said it's a cult, I mean cultural thing up there in Ash Fork, and you can shave a peach with it. That's total hard core, where I come from.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 08, 2019, 03:13 PM:

And, I will tell you folks something else. Yesterday, I was winding my way down from Arrowhead on 18. And I do mean winding! Anyway, I'm listening to Jerry Lee Lewis Greatest Hit's from the Grand Old Opry. And, I want to say, this guy is a National Treasure! Damn, he plays some lively foot tapping music! That's all I got to say.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ June 08, 2019, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 09, 2019, 03:34 AM:

King of the P I A N O !

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 09, 2019, 06:44 AM:

You know, I was just a kid and was watching TV one night, no idea what kind of program it was but there was a wild man playing piano while standing up. I had heard of Elvis Presley and his gyrations and thought it must be he? Who else would be pulling shenanigans like that? It was the next day, at school I mentioned what I saw and heard for the first time this blonde guy with two first names, itself very uncommon in those days. ALWAYS liked him though, even when he married his cousin who was like 14? That didn't do his career any good at all. I'm thinking 1957, maybe? Those were the days, my friend!

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: The King of the Piano, I heard, can't, and never could read sheet music? He plays by ear. Hard to imagine? As far as I'm concerned, musicians as a group are from outer space, I haven't a clue how they do it? But, I don't have a talent for languages, either? I can just barely breed successfully.

[ June 09, 2019, 06:50 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 09, 2019, 09:29 AM:

You are killing me Leonard "Barely breed successfully " that's sum funny
shit right there !

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 15, 2019, 08:00 PM:

Koko, Ratties no yappy. At least, my two aren't. With that said, nothing happens in or around my property that they aren't aware of. I recall watching an episode of Duck Dynasty where daddy Phil was trying to sneak in past his rat terrier. Couldn't do it. My older male is getting a bit bull headed, but he's smarter than all get out. Taz is just a hugger. Everytime I get home, she's first to greet me. Likes to curl up in your lap and just be with you. Harley has a standing date with me anytime I'm inn the recliner. Their only triggers are doorbells and squirrels. Easy to house train, too.

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 15, 2019, 08:43 PM:

Ok, Thanx !!!
I'm not real up on dog knowledge. Just every once in a while one finds me and I realize I have a dog.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 16, 2019, 09:20 AM:

I'm busy analyzing photos and videos of 4 week old pups. It's an even mix of blue tick and red tick with most of the blue tic are female. I'm trying to pick out features, but that's difficult too. Four pups have a white spot on the head and five pups have at least a partly white tail. And, half have real long ears and the other half, not so much.

I'm tempted

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by www (Member # 3918) on June 17, 2019, 08:42 AM:

I have a Decker Rat Terrorist. Smart little bastid,with selective hearing. He loves the grandkids so I guess he stays.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 17, 2019, 06:50 PM:

LOL, Koko, Have a farm I have helped before when the coyotes were strafing their dog. Ran into the lady last year and asked her how things were going. Said they were fine. Asked about her dog, and she just laughed and said, "Well, we didn't have a dog for awhile, then one showed up. Next thing I know, that sumbitch had a collar and a name, so yeah, I guess we have a dog now."

www, those deckers are sharp looking dogs. I was never one to have dogs in the house. Dogs were utilitarian, but these two rats have turned me around. Harley, then older of the two, has seizures and an assload of little tumors everywhere. Doc says they're fatty tumors and they don't seem to cause him any discomfort, but I worry about him like he's one of the kids.

The only downside (at first) to having a rat terror is the eventual need for two. They can be very calm and obedient, then BAM! Rat ATTACK. Running laps aropund the house or yard until they run out of gas, catch their breath, and then there they go again. Had an old guy had an intact male and he told me he couldn't keep up with him and was considering rehoming him elsewhere. Said he hated to do it because he really loved the dog. Told him he wouldn't like my advice, but the best thing to do was to get another one for the first one to play with. He did and couldn't be happier. We now introduce Harley as our dog, and "That's Harley's dog, Taz"

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 17, 2019, 08:54 PM:

There you go with the lingo again. Are you guys talking about a Jack Russel?

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 18, 2019, 02:55 AM:

No, it's code speak for the free market Asian Sex Slave trade. Never heard of Kinky Kansas ???

[Wink]

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 20, 2019, 05:02 PM:

Rat terror is a play on rat terrier, aka ratties. Totally different critter than Jack Russells, or Parson's terriers. Ratties are rumored to be descendants from breeding whippets and beagles and sundry other lesser breeds that were used for controlling rats and vermin on farmsteads in the early 30's and 40's. Current record for a rat terrier is like 2400-something in a day. There are actually groups of guys that get together and toss hay barns and grain stores to put rats in front of their dogs. I chose ratties over JRT's because ratties are more manageable, more inclined to be an indoor dog, less willful, and very unlikely to dig. The Decker mentioned is a selectively bred RT that was bred to be larger than the standard. My two are about 9 and 16 pounds. A Decker runs upwards of 25+ pounds, but possesses many of the same features of the standard rat.

Jack Russells have no real breed standard, are a mish mash of terrior breeds, and come in many shapes and sizes. JRT's are more likely to dig holes to go to ground such as under your fence, and tend to be less child friendly than ratties.

My two rats are very, very people oriented. Per the breeder's advice, we introduced Harley to 200 total strangers his first four months. No timidness in him at all. Taz is very meek, and very cautious around people, but once she gets a sense of security around you, you're friends for life, like it or not. As is typical for rats, they love people. They sleep in bed with one of us every night and will get right under the blankets with you. Harley had one accident the day after we got him at 5 weeks old. Has never deliberately violated his house breaking even one other time in his life. Taz was a tougher nut to crack. Took a couple weeks to get it deeply engrained. 6 years later, all I have to do is look at her and ask, "Did you poop in my house?" and her head falls, hips drop and her soul is all but crushed until I make up to her again. Enough to make you cry. She sells it well. I train my inside dogs verbally. They really have to fuck up to get swatted. Just use my voice. They need the sense of security as pack animals to be part of a pack. I let them know I'm the alpha from day one and they embrace that. As soon as I walk in the door, they're at my feet, stubby little tails twitching, waiting for me to acknowledge them. If I don't, it really seems to genuinely bug them, until I do. Once done, they go on with their lives. If they screw up somehow, they get "the voice" which usually sends them scrambling for their kennels which have stayed since they first got here. The kennels are their "alamo". If they get into the kennel, they are safe and I stand down. Funny enough, I've often found one or the other in their kennel looking guilty, essentially self-reporting, and that's when we start looking around to see what they did. Harley recently self-reported after Mama left a bag of marshmallows unattended. Turns out he REALLY likes marshmallows. Ate 3/4 of the bag. When he was little, he ate most of a bag of empty water balloons the kids left laying around. Spent the next several days picking up the most colorful turds you've ever seen. LOL

Have never had a dog that was as consistent and well mannered as a rattie.

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 21, 2019, 03:24 AM:

Terriers are not a dog you want if you are not going to be involved all day everyday during training they are high energy and get bored easily once trained they are a delight. Mine are kenneled outdoors because of their size 40+ lbs. Airedales are the largest of the terriers and are relentless hunters not an ounce of quit in either of them. I use training collars I use the vibrate mode to call them in when we are afield I rarely use the shock mode but do so for their safety like Prairie rattler's and such. on any day going out on a trip or not they are released from the kennel at least twice a day for walks with me or to just play while we are outside with them. they return to the kennel when called and happily go in they like it there ! when released they attack each other in a playful way and invite me to join in the bruises on my arms are proof we call them alligators with fur !

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 21, 2019, 06:35 AM:

I guess everybody has their concept, the perfect dog. Now before, Lance said that dogs, specifically hounds, (my favorite) don't belong in the house. More recently he says his rat terriers not only stay inside, but get under the covers with him, sores and all?

When ever I think of Airedales, I think of JohnHenry and his pack of totally undisciplined dogs. I'm just not very crazy about dogs with curly fur. They do tend to drag a lot of the outdoors inside with them, not that they are unclean or anything.

I heard, one time, that the origin of terriers in general is kind of mysterious, they just showed up, somewhere in England or Scotland or maybe Ireland? But, everybody does seem to agree that they are, as we might say, a breed apart. Now, I have heard that Airedales are the largest terrier but what exactly makes them a terrier? Do they have an extra set of molars, or something distinctive that anybody can see, that identifies them and makes them different? Or is it strictly something in their behavior?

I am really conflicted on these Blue Tic pups of my son's. I have not owned a dog since my Redbone died probably 20 years ago and she was a wonderful pet, even if she thought she could lick a barrel full of German Shepards or coyotes, no matter. And coud climb a tree like a monkey. I just know that there was never another dog that smelled her ass.

Anyway, I don't even know how to get a pup from Mississippi, other than driving down there, and that's not a very interesting proposition.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ June 21, 2019, 06:38 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on June 21, 2019, 08:01 AM:

I have known some great hounds couple of boys I grew up with from Oklahoma had a hound that used to see me coming and climb to the top of a tree to greet me ! we had a still in their backyard good guys great dog ! another friend had a redbone named Elvis he was a hell of a dog ! My tricolor walker Ol Blue
was a shit bag could not stay home and I lived on 475 acres !

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