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Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 19, 2018, 04:54 AM:
Went down to the local sporting goods store the other day to buy a new pair of insoles. Have a new pair of 1000 gram boots and they are a little big.
The store carries Sole insoles. Got a new pair of winter insole and they have a thin layer of thinsulate on the bottom. You do a oven heat stick them in the boot and then put them on for 4 minutes and you have a custom fitting insole.
Went out yesterday with them feet were very warm at first. Then in the afternoon we're in a canyon with snow standing around never felt the cold creeping up through the bottom of the boot.
They are expensive but if you're having foot problems and need a good arch the "Sole" brand is the way to go. They have varying insole heights and different thickness of insoles.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 19, 2018, 06:10 PM:
Soles huh ? sounds interesting. I guess, I can look online which sporting goods store ?
I scored a Kromer hat the other day, never could find 'em with ear flaps before ? Plus this baby is much better insulated than my other one. It's called a Rancher Cap.
https://www.moosejaw.com/product/stormy-kromer-rancher-cap_10338802?hybridPLA=true&ad_id=BingPLA&utm_source=BingPLA&utm_medium=PLA&utm_campaign=Stormy-Kromer&scid=scbplp3564596&sc_ intid=3564596&cm_mmc=PLA-_-BingPLA-_-SC%20Shopping%20-%20Full%20Price%20-%20Brand|SC%20Shopping%20-%20Full%20Price-_-bing|264608337|5495853448|14682680238|pla-4585100929123818:pla- 4585100929123818|c|3564596&msclkid=05ad5ad0e8a915d9a703012384b5672a
[ November 19, 2018, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 19, 2018, 07:24 PM:
I used to use those packets that you open and shake and they stay warm for hours. I would put them in the toes of my Mickey Mouse Boots and they work, by god! I use them in mittens too.
I mentioned elsewhere that I used to skate with frozen feet and I meant it. I damaged the capillaries in my feet by the time I was ten years old and that stuff never repairs. Therefore, my feet get colder, faster than regular people. I have to take extreme measures if I'm going to be comfortable in subzero conditions.
I'll tell you this much, hunting at night dead winter conditions ain't for sissies! Takes dedication, Amigos!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 19, 2018, 08:40 PM:
I fight more of a cold head than anything else ? I like those silk scarfs anymore also. I keep them in all my Jackets.
Wool blend socks work pretty good for me. I have a pair of Muck Chore boots. I bought a few years ago. Comfy as sneakers but pretty dang warm.
When off work, I wear say Oct to maybe May.
Wife gives me shit when I go to the Grocery Store or something with 'em on !! I love those Damn things !!
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 20, 2018, 04:43 AM:
REI and Cabela's down in the valley carry them.
They are made in Montana. Or you could look them up on the internet.
The one I got this time were the winter one which seems to be a new item.
Other half a pair of Mucks. I don't like and won't wear them. They are anti hunting and trapping and I'm not supporting them.
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on November 20, 2018, 06:59 AM:
I bought a new pair of browning 1200g insulated boots for hunting this winter. I too have the problem of cold feet when out hunting. My last pair of insulated boots were not making the cut. So this time around I went with a rubber style boot instead of a leather/nylon material these boot company's are making now in days.
I am very impressed with these boots. I have spent a couple of cold morning pushing snow and not once did I notice the cold creeping in on my toes. When out walking on icy parking lots and roads not once did I slip! Temps were down to 8 and a steady north breeze of about 30 mph, operating a backhoe in the snow is never a warm adventure but those boots kept my feet warm... dare I say hot? Went out with Sunday quail hunting wearing them. Traction was great, they offer pretty good torn and cactus protection. Temps were not very cold so my feet were really warm after the afternoons hunt. My only issue with these Browning x-vantage boots is they are a little heavy for hiking long distances. But if you are knee deep in snow or doing a lot of stand hunting these boots will do you right and keep them feet of your super warm.
I will say buying boots on the internet is sometimes hit and miss... I have a problem with buying boots and not being able to try them on first. Bugs me not knowing if they fit or not. And good luck with sizing charts. But I am limited to sporting good stores that carry hunting goods. Wal-Mart. That's it so internet shopping is my go to.
Also, has anyone tried the battery operated hot soles that are on the market? Insoles that heat up via a battery pack.. Do they work? I like the idea but not the amount of money most are selling them for..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 20, 2018, 07:41 AM:
Yeah, I've seen the battery powered insoles. They aren't cheap, that's the only opinion I have right now.
As far as rubber boots. What I was talking about are the military Mickey Mouse boots. They are either black or white rubber and have a valve for which I never received an adequate explanation? Some say it's to increase an air pocket and provide more insulation. Others say it's for when airborne?
I think you can get these boots used, in decent shape for about $50. The word on the street when I was in the military is that they are great for standing guard duty. But, if you have to walk several miles and your feet sweat, then sit in a foxhole, that's when you will get trench foot or ?
When we were active in the field, almost everybody would wear regular combat boots and overshoes/galoshes, maybe an extra pair of boot socks, which were wool. Not so good for marching somewhere, but if you were working, putting up tents and the like, in snow, the overshoes were the ticket. When I was a kid, everybody had overshoes or "rubbers" over street shoes. Now a days, I couldn't say the last time I saw them advertised? Mostly from when I was a kid in Minneesota. Another hick thing was the "SKATE EXCHANGE". Kids growing up needed a new pair of skates every winter and hardly warn so we would trade them in every year for a pair that fit our growing feet. I always opted for the "Hockey" skates, but later, to be "cool" I got speed skates.
Another stroll down Memory Lane w/Lenbo
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 20, 2018, 08:23 AM:
The last time that I bought boots at Cabela's in Glendale I mentioned to the girl in the boot dept. that I was leery of mail ordering boots to get a proper fit.
Her response was to order best guess correct size and a pair 1/2 size larger and 1/2 size smaller. Try them on indoors, decide the best fit and return the other two pair for refund.
Made sense & simpler than driving to Phoenix.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 20, 2018, 06:51 PM:
Muck is anti hunting-trapping ya say ?
That really sucks. I guess the better question is who ain't ? That in itself is "REALLY" the question.
When it's rainy or snowy about everyone who walks thru the door @ work. Has 'em on.
It's getting stupid. We have to research. Who's what & who's who. To make a fucking purchase anymore ?
Just sayin'
[ November 20, 2018, 06:55 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on November 20, 2018, 08:13 PM:
I've tried the Sorel, LaCrosse Rocky, etc. boots and they didn't cut it.
Then I bought these Baffin boots. Now cold feet are a thing of the past.
https://www.baffin.com/collections/winter/products/40000048?variant=8572567027763
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on November 20, 2018, 08:22 PM:
EW mentioned orthotic insoles. About 12 years ago, my low back would tighten up during the day and just didn't feel that good. I'd never had any type of major injury. Just the wear and tear of a physical job is what I thought was the cause.
I did lots of walking, stretching, and exercise to help it out. Which it did, but it would never quite go away.
On kind of a whim, I had some custom orthotic inserts made. I've worn them ever since. Within a couple weeks my back didn't tighten up or ache anymore. When I mentioned this to the guy who made them, he said orthotics fix a lot of minor back problems.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 21, 2018, 05:04 AM:
Idaho guys. Remember when you bought your first pair of Whites?
They just about killed you then in a week or so they fit like a pair of slippers and you didn't have back/knee problems.
The reason is they have a well made arch built in and the heel is aligned under the leg bones.
Look at how all boots/shoes are made now a days. No arch all flat and you have to buy insoles to get the support you need.
I have 4 pairs of Whites don't wear them. My right leg swell and wearing high lace up boots kills my leg any more.
I have a pair of Kenetreks in rubber bottoms with the felt liners. They are warm and nice and I can walk in them and they don't weigh that much and there is ankle support.
Have a pair of Infernos' from Cabelas. They are light and very warm.
I have more boots than most men do. Do to a very short wide foot. Wear D-E width so finding me boots is hard and when we find something that fits and I like we usually buy them. I usually buy mens is wide width. Women's boot are usually a B-C width and that has probably caused the start of my hammer toe.
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on November 21, 2018, 11:19 AM:
Interesting stuff...I may have to try custom orthotics to see if it will help my hip problem after my back fusion!
Has anyone tried vapor barrier socks? Saw this and thought I might have to try it. My feet sweat terribly, and then they get cold...I guess the vapor barriers trick your feet into not sweating?
https://sectionhiker.com/vapor-barrier-socks/
Thought I might give these a shot, and if they don't work, I might try the Soles!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 21, 2018, 01:30 PM:
I had an issue with bone spurs, must have been twenty years ago. I was damned near a cripple, and there I was, on my feet 12 hours a day. I finally consulted a podiatrist, and this guy really knew his shit. He had me stand in these kind of like a shoebox, and squish down in the pliant media which looked a little like the acoustic material you spray on the ceiling. Then he sent those two shoeboxes out and what came back was a hard fiberglass ORTHOTIC, both of them meant to correct your posture.
I had seen the X-rays of my bone spurs and how they grow under the heel bones and they put pressure on nerves between the bone spur and the foot heel bones. The problem with surgery is it's quite painful, and you are left with scar tissue. But the main thing is, remove the bone spurs and they can easily grow back!
So, I started wearing these orthotics, which cost $500, but the actually worked. No more pain and yet, I still had the bone spurs but apparently, my weight was redistributed to the point that it took the pressure off of my heels. Not only that, but since then, having retired, I'm not exacerbating the situation by being on my feet all day. I don't wear them anymore, but I would if I was going to hike up Mount Fuji all weekend.
But, the lady is correct about the lack of arch support in a whole lot of expensive boots and footwear. I have a bit of a problem with a high arch in boots because I am so flat footed, so the orthotics is the answer.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on November 21, 2018, 01:40 PM:
Booger have you ever tried sock liners?
When it gets cold and I know I'll be walking a fair amount and sitting for extended perioids, I'll use liners under some good merino wool socks. It seems to keep my feet feeling dryer.
Some people hate the feel of two socks. I kinda like it.
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on November 21, 2018, 01:44 PM:
Lonny,
Are those the Poly-Pro liners? If so, yes. I guess my feet have grown the last couple of years, as my old boots are 12's and it seems like my feet are not really comfortable in anything but 13's now...
My feet stay warmer in my larger boots with the liner and a heavy wool sock than in my size 12's.
Guess the 12's will go the way of a garage sale...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 21, 2018, 06:26 PM:
Same here, Booger. I've been wearing 13's for quite a while now. They are a little roomy but the 12 and 12 1/2 feel cramped.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 22, 2018, 05:34 AM:
Something has changed with shoe sizes.
I use to wear a 6 or so now I'm buying size 9. I know my feet have changed but not that much.
Everyone should buy 1 or 2 Peet shoe dryers. I think we're up to 4 now. We still pull out all insoles or felt liners to dry and put the boots on the dryer's to get your boots completely dry.
My feet sweat big time. I can soak a thick pair of felt liners in half a day. Then I pay for it with freezing feet. Have to walk a lot to get them warmed up.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on November 22, 2018, 07:07 AM:
A few years before I got orthotic inserts, I noticed I was gradually needing to jump up in shoe and boot size. Went from an 11.5 to the 13's that I wear now.
What I think it really was, was the arches in my feet flattening out with age and working on concrete. That's when I started having the back problems I mentioned above. It stands to reason that foot problems could lead to knee, hip, and back issues.
[ November 22, 2018, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: Lonny ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 22, 2018, 09:22 AM:
Yeah, I think similar with me. It's like my feet are growing as I age, WTF? But, it's real, not imagination.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by JoeF (Member # 228) on November 22, 2018, 04:44 PM:
I just did the foot smash in to the pink foam in a shoe box that LB mentions earlier this week. Orthotics ordered.
I thought I had a ankle that was shot, but it turns out that I have a couple of bones farther forward that are rubbing. Podiatrist made it sound like I have nothing to worry about.
I work outside in a chemical plant and can make it through most winter has to offer with good sealed uninsulated leather boots (Wolverine) and wool socks. Real cold days I add the polypropylene liners.
I have a pair of Danners that I hunt in. I think 400 gram thinsulate. I wear them with thin wool socks.
Like the old adage states, (wet) cotton kills. Wool is awesome.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 22, 2018, 06:46 PM:
It seems to me high quality wool socks are the way to go. I've been too cheap lately.
I had a few pairs of Filson Heavy Weights in the day they were awesome. Now day's $30 bucks or so for a pair just doesn't quite trip my trigger.
Perhaps I need to re think for those special days ?
I recently bought several pairs of Wrangler socks. Wool blend & cotton @ BI-MART in Weiser Idaho. It's the only place to shop there. Really the only place..
Anyway I'm somewhat impressed. $5 to $12 bucks a pair depending on what ya get.
I go thru sock buying rampages every few years. I'll pick up another brand or two this weekend maybe & be done for awhile. Bottom line if it's cold & I'm gonna be out there awhile. Wool of some type is the way to go. The more ya pay the better the experience. IMO.
(edit) PS my feet seem to growing also. I bought a pair of Justin Ropers three years ago on sale. Held 'em back. Till' recently. Guess what they fit like shit !!
I went by my old standard 10.5 & D width. It's an 11 & E now. I think ?
About time for new boots soon. Here we go again.
[ November 22, 2018, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 23, 2018, 03:40 AM:
I bought Thorlo socks fifteen years ago still using them, feet are toasty ! now my boots come from Walmart lolololololo!
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 23, 2018, 05:07 AM:
Dave, pay the money for Darn Tough Socks. Wool good and so far I like them. Been buying Costco wool socks which are a great deal. Have noticed here lately that after a couple of seasons of use they aren't doing what they should and we have a pile of them so may be time to clean the closet and start all over with Darn Tough Socks next season. They have different weights.
We have Filson socks and even their long underwear. It sure does itch compared to First Lite. I'll take my First lite any day of the week over Filson. Same price but a lot better.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 23, 2018, 07:57 AM:
Thanks !! Darn Tough huh ? I'll check it out. About the only way I can afford Filson is to look for deals on Amazon.
I decided I don't like them though. Here we go again didn't we just have the conversation of what who & where too buy.. lol ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on November 23, 2018, 08:02 AM:
Darn Tough and Smartwool, about the only socks I wear inside boots, hot or cold, I wear the same ones.
Main reason I switched to all wool socks years ago, is blisters. In hot weather on long walks my feet want to blister up bad, at the slightest excuse. Good wool socks are the best preventative for that I've found.
Nice side benefit, after three days on the trail wearing the same ones, they don't stink. Not too bad anyway . I wear pure wool T shirts hiking that canyon country in warm weather too. They are stupid expensive, but worth it.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 23, 2018, 08:47 AM:
Filson is pricy, no doubt. How much will a double Mackinaw cruiser set you back? Must be somewhere around $600 or so? But, it reeks quality. Tin cloth? Damned near as much as wool. But, I like looking at the catalogue.
Speaking of which. I got a KUEU (?) I know I'm misspelling it, but is that ever a flashy looking catalog! At least the cover envelope of the embossed red ram is very impressive. Did everybody get one? I don't know where in hell they got my name? Speaking of White boots, which I have never owned, but it seems like Victor wears them all the time, whenever he isn't wearing his Mexican wrestler sneakers. He will never live that down.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on November 23, 2018, 09:32 AM:
Leonard; as long as we have you around, I suspect I'll never live any of those tid bits down, you always know when to drop one on me. Actually, I get a grin from your needling, you can't be part of the group if you can't laugh at yourself right?
Ive had a lot of fun and met a lot of great guys in the simple pursuit of coyotes. If my Nacho Libre shoe story can still draw a chuckle, Im pleased and proud to own it.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 23, 2018, 10:33 AM:
In regards to Filson. I used to make more money than now days.
I have a small closet full of their stuff.
*Mackinaw cruiser. Gray/Black
*Tin cloth chore coat ? not sure what it's actually called.
*Shelter cloth double sleeved coat whatever it's called.
*Tin cloth vest
*Mackinaw vest. Two of them.
*Alaskan flannel shirts. Two of them.
*Wool brimmed hat.
*Wool cap.
*Long Johns.
Probably something else. I can't remember right now. Most of this purchased 20 or so years ago. Love all of it.
I think the company is still a good one. They have always been pricey. Now days even more so. Might still be a good value though in the long run ?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 23, 2018, 02:34 PM:
Well, Yeah. But one thing to remember, Victor; if I didn't like ya, I wouldn't give you a hard time. You know that.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: (keeps you humble)
[ November 23, 2018, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 23, 2018, 03:27 PM:
Local Sporting Goods store Black Friday deal.
"Darn Tough Socks" buy 1 get the second pair half price. Just bought 4 pair of socks other half bought a pair of Sole insoles at regular price.
Filson sure isn't what is use to be. They went more urban selling like L.L. Bean. Nothing for real people who physically work outside. Can't afford their prices anyway.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on November 23, 2018, 03:55 PM:
Kuiu catalog...check. I have a few pieces of Kuiu stuff and really like it.
Mark
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on November 23, 2018, 06:06 PM:
Yeah your right about Filson. The catalog doesn't have near what it used to.
Forgot about that, glad I have all my older stuff. Everything seems more tilted to "yuppies" now days if you will.
Carhartt ain't what it was either. I have again about a 20-25 year old work coat. I bought a Arctic Coat on sale a few years ago. No comparison between the two.
Times have changed. No going back now. Sad..
Posted by MI VHNTR (Member # 3370) on November 23, 2018, 07:04 PM:
Shoe sizes sure have changed. I have a pair of Columbia boots size 11 that are starting to wear out. I like them so I went to buy another identical pair of them in size 11, of course. I could not get my foot into the new size 11 boot no matter how hard I tried. I had to get a size 12 boot and it is still not as comfortable and roomy as my older size 11 boots.
It makes you wonder how this new stuff is being made and what size it really is.
Posted by NeilA (Member # 6789) on November 23, 2018, 07:34 PM:
I think shoe sizes have changed some.
Also as we age our feet tend to get wider and maybe a little longer. Gravity..
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on November 24, 2018, 08:19 AM:
KUIU....I wanted one of their ultra down vests once....super light weight and warm. I made the dumb mistake of getting on their email list to watch for sales....no kidding at least 4 emails a day. Their products are good(not a big fan of the camo though), there problem is sizing. Not many options.
Carhartt (along with wrangler ,Levi etc) have all deteriorated in quality. No denim or duck is made here in the U.S. anymore. Its all made overseas somewhere in Asia then cut and assembled in China.
I would pay good money for some carhartts like they made 25 years ago
Maintain
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 24, 2018, 08:26 AM:
I'm glad we got that puzzle figured out. Damned Gravity! Like Déjà vu all over again!
I'm kind of pissed off at Kuiu. I think I just spelled it correctly, for the first and probably last time. (thanks Mark) But, what I require is an explanation for such a friggin' tongue twister of a company name. It would help me understand why they deliberately decline a really cool, corporate designed name in favor of such a lame one. I'm thinking Hawaiian, or some Inuit Eskimo word for sheep hunting in the mountains. Best I can come up with. But the word is stupid, and you can tell them I said so.
Good hunting. El Bee
PS I guess I'm a little ornery, last night on the flight home, that waitress passed me by on the drinks, AND the damned pretzels! I can remember back when Southwest was generous; two bags of peanuts, and they gave you a WHOLE CAN OF COKE! Now, they fill that tiny cup with ice, then dribble in "maybe" an ounce of coke. Of course, back before murderous Arabs, a flight to Phoenix or Oakland cost $35. I do remember boarding with my .45, Mexican carry, condition 2. That is a distant memory but it's a fact.
edit: in response to geordie....has anybody noticed that the fabric they use for everything, any kind of apparel, must be half rotten when they sew it together? I mean I used to be able to wear a damned tee shirt (no exaggeration) 20 years, and now, it will start fraying around the neck in 2 or 3 years and holes will appear without reason and not because I scraped it or poked a hole in it. My suspicion is that they are using cloth that is already 20 years old when the cut the pattern? Either that or the chemicals the use to give it a washed appearance do too much damage to the threads? Whatever, nothing is as good as it once was, I don't care what kind of bullshit they blow up your ass!
[ November 24, 2018, 08:36 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 24, 2018, 10:09 AM:
Dave A, been looking all over for a website for Sole. Guess they only sell retail.
can't even fine the thinsulate ones like I bought. oh well.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on November 26, 2018, 05:37 AM:
Darn Tough socks are the bomb!
KUIU is 'pushy' with their emails, but ya could score some nice discounts on good shit, from time to time, if ya take a peek...
I think every coyote hunter would LOVE a pair of Attack pants...the best 'active' hike/hunt pants I've ever tried! And their pacakble Chugach rain gear is top notch, as well.
Kuiu merino wool base layers are OK, worth a buy when they're on closeout. But plain ol' Smartwool base layers are super, and ya really don't need em to be 'camo'...
Mostly, KUIU stuff is geared toward active 'backcountry' hunters, not so much for more sedentary deer huntin'. But seeing as how serious predator callers cover lots of ground, to & fro in a day, there's is something to be said for having attire that's been tailor made for covering ground...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 26, 2018, 07:09 AM:
Yeah, maybe? Hey Fred, where ya been?
No, really. Clothes are something that's really optional, as far as the guys, (I'm looking at you, Chad) that wear a blue plaid shirt and call it CAMO. Danny Batistini was another guy that might never have owned anything camo? Like, fishing lures attract fishermen, not fish. Well, somewhat true, at least.
Then again, does Kuiu mention anything about UV filters? So, who are we supposed to be hiding from, the Taliban? I've said it before, sometimes camo is way overrated. But, let me tell you something, 40-50 years ago, it was unavailable, believe it or not! Maybe you could find a piece of WWII jacket but that's it. Now, it's ridiculous. You get any catalog, BassPro, Cabelas etc. and the first half is devoted to camouflage clothing and maybe $200 for a shirt and another $200 for the pants. When they get to the point where you have camo knives and other small stuff, (a camo penlight, for instance) that when you drop it, you can't find it, that's going too far! When it's a status symbol, it's time to bail. There are fortunes made with shit like "Realtree" and "MossyOak". Give me a fucking break!
I just happened to remember, back when I bought my Colt AR15, A1 too, and I never had to use a forward assist that I didn't have. But, anyway, I painted it CAMO! For years now, I've been meaning to scrape that paint off but somehow, never got around to it, I'm pretty sure it's still there, way in the back of the safe, easy to reach when the race riots start. Along with all the illegal magazines. What "button"?
Good hunting. El Bee
[ November 26, 2018, 07:12 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on November 28, 2018, 05:39 AM:
Still love my Thorlo wool socks that are fifteen years old and still kicking cost me plenty fifteen years ago and have paid for themselves many times !
I really don't get all this hi tech gota
costa grand to be worth anything ? why is that? I get that you get what you pay for but boots is boots and good footwear starts with socks !
[ November 28, 2018, 05:41 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on November 28, 2018, 08:11 AM:
It seems like the only quality boots out there are the higher priced ones.
Whites, Kenetreks, Lowa, Zamberlan,
I don't consider Wolverine, Carhart, Cat and so forth to be quality. Quantity made yes, quality no.
Socks help greatly or hurt greatly.
Try finding any boot in my size. Ha!
You guys with regular sized and width feet are lucky.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2018, 08:48 AM:
I admit to be very selective, when it comes to the type of hunting boots I think we are talking about? I buy a lot of stuff from Orvis and their Gokie boots are very decent, and they will custom make them, if you have a hard to fit foot. Danner is good, I have a pair I've been wearing for more than ten years, although they are a little snug now, for some reason?
I know White's are good quality but I'm not crazy about the high heels.
I really don't think there are bargains in boots. Sad but true, quality costs money. I used to think Browning made decent boots but the last pair I had that friggin' tongue was always wadded up and never did get it unwadded, just uncomfortable, from day one until I threw them out. Now the thing about my Danners, I had them resoled with vibram and a hell of a lot of boots, you can't do that any more. Molded=cheap shit.
Oh, and try and find a shoe repair shop. The guy that did my Vibram soles must have died, it's something else, these days. That make two local shoe repair shops in this town that aren't there any more.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on November 28, 2018, 08:58 AM:
I went thru my camo phase like 25 years ago. I really have always just preferred solid earth tone colors. Im one of the idiots that have bugged people to come out with solids in hunting clothes, any chance I got. Backpacks, clothing etc...I just like more solid type colors. There is some good looking camo out nowdays though.
I still wear the occasional camo piece, trying to rotate it all out though.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on November 28, 2018, 11:48 AM:
Yeah, but. You might like solid colors, (what a "retro"!) so explain how we pay all those royalties to RealTree and the others for dull, unimaginative, earth tones and coyote tan? Quit rocking the boat! There's another buzzword: TACTICAL! Boy, don't that get the juices flowing! Put cargo pockets on a pair of pants and call them "tactical" and you get $200 for a $100 pair of pants.
As far as I am concerned, I think military uniform, in solid or a camp pattern does a decent job. This is predator hunting, not a expedition to darkest Africa and no safe drinkable water since leaving Mombasa. I'm fixed on camo for the foreseeable future, thank you. Sure, I'd love to have a new $500 Kiui outfit. Make all the kids in school green with envy.
In fact, I remember one time, I intentionally wore a green plaid shirt and I thought it blended local vegetation perfectly. I had two guys, different days offer me their spare camo. I'm not making this up. It's called herd something, I forget?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on November 28, 2018, 01:42 PM:
So …………….. This would make my WWII camo "Retro Tactical" ?????
We need to copyright that and sue for the big bucks when it takes off.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on November 28, 2018, 04:34 PM:
Yeah you’re totally right Leonard I don’t have to much Camo to speak of. Short sleeve Plaid shirts and jeans in the spring and summer, long sleeve plaid shirts and jeans in the fall and early winter.lol I do own some camo though a hoodie, and some Sitka stuff in goretex pants and jacket when it’s wet or snowy.😉 Now boots are a different story. I try to buy the best boots I can find. Right now I’m wearing Schnees Beartooth boots, They are a lot like the Kenetreks. They are a great boot for sure...
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