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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2018, 06:56 AM:
Who among us is this 220swift guy, from Oklahoma, yet? And why did he think I needed to know this stuff?
But, what caught my eye immediately, a seminar by the one and only Byron South. Sure to be worth the price of admission.
Were they kicked out of Globe or what? I don't keep up.
Good hunting. El Bee
[ September 04, 2018, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on September 04, 2018, 07:10 AM:
What are we talking about? I cant quiet follow along on what your saying. Give me a link.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2018, 07:31 AM:
oops!
forgot the "linky"
Swift220 taconite4@hotmail.comHide
To nbosin nbosin@aol.com
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 04, 2018, 08:24 AM:
They must love you over there after all.
I mean, heck-fire, they even gave you nine days prior notice !!!!!
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Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on September 04, 2018, 04:42 PM:
Don't no who Swift220 is.
I don't think he ever came to any OPHA hunts that we used to have. But I could be wrong.
Maybe there wanting you come back LB LOL
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 04, 2018, 05:28 PM:
I'm just pissed they are mucking up one of my favorite areas. That's all we need is another 100 Foxpros blasting Lightning jack all weekend.
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 04, 2018, 06:06 PM:
I wouldn't worry too much...……..most of 'em won't get past the Desert Rose. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on September 05, 2018, 01:07 AM:
With what I gather from Earthwalker all the decent hunting areas are nothing but smoldering ashes.
You know every little town in Nevada has monthly contests as it is. But another large group of foxpro hunters will just make the calling that much more interesting,not.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on September 05, 2018, 03:36 AM:
The north part of Nevada has burnt from the Martin Creek to the South FK of the Owyhee. The South Sugarloaf burnt from the East side of the South FK of the Owyhee to almost Jarbidge NV. Martin Creek fire was 500k plus acres and the Sugarloaf is 235K acres. You add it up.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 05, 2018, 09:20 AM:
As far as burns, I don't think it's an absolute boner killer. There are still pockets where survivors congregate and I'm not sure how many actually die and whether they are capable of deducing their best course of action? Say, 50 miles away might be pretty good but how many go that way or is it like herding cats? You just never know and as long as the water is still where it was and the rabbits dig up and things smooth out, then it's like any weather phenomena. It's surprising how soon after a violent storm passes that they resume whatever they were doing and in the case of fire, make do the best they can.
Anyway, like has been said about old growth and Yellowstone; maybe those fires were the best thing to happen in a long time? Personally, I don't know enough to have an opinion on that issue but I do know that some people claim fires are not always a bad thing.
Good hunting. El Bee
[ September 05, 2018, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on September 05, 2018, 09:35 AM:
30 people will show up...maybe 5 will actually go hunting so no biggie.
Mark
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 05, 2018, 02:04 PM:
Nailed it Mark !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on September 05, 2018, 04:32 PM:
Yeah but those five will sight 362 coyotes and kill 416 of them !!!! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 06, 2018, 03:48 AM:
Careful you don't want another "SIEZE" and desist order.
[ September 06, 2018, 03:49 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on September 06, 2018, 04:05 AM:
I saw in the reg. that out of staters couldn't get grey fox and bobcats in Nevada. That's not very friendly. For a guy that's never seen a ringtail cat, I ask how big do the get and can you call them like a bobcat? We don't have them here in Okie land and where I hunt we don't even have fox in the wild, they all live in town. There hell on city cats. LoL
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 06, 2018, 04:25 AM:
Ringtail are a cousin to the raccoon . relatively small a big one can get 3.5 lbs. generally smaller than a house cat I have seen them but don't know if you can call them they are a nocturnal critter. Hunt Arizona we let visitors kill everything ! LOL
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 06, 2018, 04:27 AM:
Ringtail are a cousin to the raccoon . relatively small a big one can get 3.5 lbs. generally smaller than a house cat I have seen them but don't know if you can call them they are a nocturnal critter. Hunt Arizona we let visitors kill everything ! LOL
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on September 06, 2018, 04:49 AM:
Thanks Paul!
I wonder if you can call them like a coon, back around my part of the country we call coons all hours of the day. Calling coons is a a lot of fun, you no if there coming within 6 minutes If they ain't there in that time then pick up and move to another den tree. When they come its hot and fast and if you blink it will be all over.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 06, 2018, 03:23 PM:
Eddie, if I were you, I would not waste much time on ring tail cats. I have hunted Arizona and Nevada pretty seriously since the late 1960's. I think I have seen 3 ring tail cats in that time?
None of the three were called, I just saw them either crossing the highway at night. All of them were in northwestern Arizona.
I think if you were to try to call them, intensionally, first I wouldn't know the sound, maybe a mouse squeak but in the daytime, it would be a total waste of time, since they are extremely nocturnal and I have never explored the conditions where that is legal, except the rules make it as difficult as possible.
Forget it.
Then, I am reminded of the time Dick and I said "ok" to his young brother, who saw a large hawk on a branch up high on the side of a mountain. At that time, there were not the blanket restrictions against harming raptors that there are now, but still, we were quail hunting and we thought we sent him off on a wild goose chase. A couple hours later, he came back with that redtailed hawk and we were kind of flabbergasted. So, I can envision a scenario where our friend Eddie goes to Elko on the PM hunt and kills a double on ring tailed cats.... just to rub my nose in it. We shall see. (gulp)
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: PS I got another invite today, they must really like me?
[ September 06, 2018, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on September 07, 2018, 03:53 AM:
Didn't say anything about going just thinking out loud. Man never nos what he can do tilll he tries it and besides its you they been asking to go LB. Now for me, I'm not much of a people person more of a lone wolf.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 07, 2018, 04:01 AM:
I have heard of people calling and ringtail came in but its never happened to me ! I have called and killed Coati Mundi now that's an interesting creature !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 07, 2018, 08:08 AM:
Well Paul, that could be like calling badgers, in most cases, they are just there, a fortunate situation. That also applies to every lion I ever called. Just prey distress, (before Foxpro) and bingo, just happen to setup near a lion.
Anyway, it's all a smorgasbord, you never know what will respond but killing the first coyote you see, sometimes it means you don't notice a cat, coming in or leaving, since they abandon stealth when walking away from being called in. If you get my meaning.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 07, 2018, 11:37 AM:
With Lion the area is the key lay ups , multi mountain convergence etc. ! I have called coati on multiple occasions ! If you call a Lion on the desert floor he was just crossing on his way to a new mountain ! Checking
on his ladies !
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on September 08, 2018, 06:12 AM:
Didn't they say there were going to be PM Pro's there. Maybe Tony T will show up too.
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 09, 2018, 03:15 PM:
PM pros probably being Tom Austin and Kerry Carver is my guess. Who knows maybe the best caller in the world Al Morris will be there. 🤮
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 10, 2018, 07:03 AM:
How is it determined, best caller in the world?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 10, 2018, 11:06 AM:
Haven’t you heard he is a 4 time world champ?? I’m kidding Leonard, he is only the best caller in the world in his eyes. Now that Jim destroyed worlds for what it used to be Al has made his own nations calling championship. Three regions, whoever has the most point after the three hunts is the TRUE world champ. These are Al’s words not mine, he set this up just so he can continue his own legacy. It’s a joke and it’s setup for big money guys or guys who make a living hunting coyotes for tv or whatever it may be.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 10, 2018, 12:18 PM:
I'm not picking on ya.
Here's my view, based on several decades of competitive contest hunts. There is much skill involved in setting up for success, choosing certain gear, economizing, utilizing your time most effectively....and so on.
But, when one team has access to private, prime virgin ground, anybody can look like a champ if you shoot reasonably well.
edit: oh, and offering to split prize money with the land owner
I could probably expand on that quite a lot, but who gives a shit any more?
Good hunting. El Bee
[ September 10, 2018, 12:20 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 10, 2018, 12:26 PM:
Yes sir I totally agree with you on that. Last season was the worst I have seen it with private land hunters, worlds was won in Texas, best of the West was won in Texas and the Arizona championship was also won in Texas. Since then contest have changed their rules, best of the West is nm only, I heard rumor the az championship is gonna be az only, the local contest here in Safford is now az only.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 10, 2018, 05:10 PM:
Just hunt and enjoy yourself fuck buckle's !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 10, 2018, 05:14 PM:
I don't shoot many coyotes any more I take folks out call em and let them shoot ! its where I get my enjoyment ! the look on their faces is
incredible !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 10, 2018, 05:17 PM:
I took my wife out once and my little decoy dog April she goes out and brings back nice coyote and my wife says wow just like in the videos I just about shit my pants laughing !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 11, 2018, 06:02 AM:
Is April the one with the bump on the head?
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 11, 2018, 06:28 AM:
That was her !
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 11, 2018, 10:35 AM:
I don’t give two fucks about the buckles, that’s not why I do it. I’m competitive by nature, coyote hunting is already fun and competition makes it even more fun.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on September 11, 2018, 03:46 PM:
Me too Ariel !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on September 11, 2018, 05:20 PM:
I can't knock it, at this point, even though I haven't entered a contest in ten years. I'm not even going to knock the buckles, they meant something once upon a time. Although, the only one I ever actually wore was the first one. It's easy to pupu this stuff now, but back then, I used to invest a lot. We worked hard and sometimes got lucky. I have to say that I enjoyed it, at the time.
I don't think it's any different than tournament bass fishing. Even so, we had a couple of cheaters, for belt buckles.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on September 12, 2018, 05:14 AM:
I really enjoy doing 1 or 2 contest a year. I enjoy the work that goes in before the hunt, the run and gun style of calling for contest. Checkin is usually a good time as well, seeing friends you might not see otherwise or meeting new people who you would have never met otherwise.
And let’s be honest who doesn’t enjoy a day and a half of calling none stop and seeing if you can beat your own personal record and the rest of the field??
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