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Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on March 20, 2018, 06:06 PM:
So my hunting partner is a AR nut. Dude has got more AR type guns than a military armory. 223 check, 556 check, 300 black out check, .308 check, .22 check, and more than I want to type out.
Anyway, we went out to one of my family piece of land that is right near a big sandy river bottom and a nice spring feed creek. Coyotes are up and down the river and creeks, signs are everywhere, plenty of food and water.I have killed countless dogs on this piece of land over my 35 years. Arrive at 6:30 a.m., get parked, get the guns and gear out and start the hunt. First stand, we setup over looking a old hay field with the light starting to brighten up the sky. Ah, I love early morning hunts! 2 weeks prior we were busted by a big male while out calling. This damn yote would turn its back and howl, then swing back around and look right at our direction and bark his ass off. Boom, swing around and let out a mean sounding howl, and do a 180 back to us barking again.He went on like this for 20 mins. So this morning we had his number, instead of a 1200 yrd shot, we were going to sneak in close to were we last saw him 2 weeks ago, and make a stand there hoping for a closer shot. My partner does the calling on this stand, I am down wind of him 50 yrds hoping for the prime shot. We get a few yotes howling I would say 1/2 mile off. Howled some more and waited. No takers.
So off to the second stand and my hate of ARs about to rear its ugly head. We make our way and find a nice spot. Wind is in the right direction for good visibility for any dogs circling. I had the down wind side of the last stand so now i am up wind and doing most of the calling. I start off with a female howl, hopefully a nice hello, anyone around. 5 mins go by and I dont hear or see anything. I pulled out the cottontail distress and give it a go. About a min after i quit with the cottontail my partner is sounding off to my right, 3 shots. I am sitting on the other side of a sand hill from where he is, maybe 25 yrds away and out of sight. I start a series of injured puppy sounds for 30 seconds and no other shot is fired. I wait for a few, scaning and hoping for a another coyote to appear on my side. Nope, so I walk over the hill and see my partner in his scope. Shit! I jumped the gun, sure enough the biggest yote we have called up this year is looking at me not 30 yrds away half hidden in the buck brush. My partner is directly in front of me and the coyote is 25 yrds ahead of him. No shot for me. So its the stare down of the year, this dog keeps staring right at me. me, hell I am sky lined like no other for the dog is down hill of me. I said out loud, "Shoot the damn thing Ryno" Ryno 4th round of the event went 2 ft low, the dog is now on the move mayby 30 yds and visible. 5 th round of his is high and right, the dog grabs another gear. Now its finally getting where i can put a bead on the mutt and end this thing, running from right to left the yote is now to Ryno's left and clear for me to shoot. 6th round of his is right at the front left foot of the yote as it disappears over the next hill. Dammit! I looked at Ryno and told him if he brings that fuckin ar again I will take it away and make him use a sling shot. 'Dude 6 shots and no fur on the ground!' 'My blind, dead grand ma could have killed that one!" I was mad, he was pissed because he missed. It was a very quite walk back to the truck.
So what did I learn that stand. Shotgun. Shotgun. Shotgun. Its a must. And leave your damn AR at Home!!
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 20, 2018, 07:22 PM:
So tell him to buy a Mini-14 w/low power scope & spend a couple of afternoons jump shooting jackrabbits.
Might help.
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 20, 2018, 07:59 PM:
Yeah but the nice thing about that smoothe handling AR is you have that quick follow up shot. Also, deadly on multiples!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 21, 2018, 04:18 AM:
Does not sound like a gun problem !
Took my two great nephews out calling one with a bolt gun and one with an AR. called in some fox I nod to the younger to shoot he does one down I nod to the older he shoots click , never seated the round I nod to the younger ,he takes a double on his first ever predator stand besting his older brother, Took the older out the next day to even the score LOL
Great story Tex thanks for sharing it I always feel like I'm siting there its great !
[ March 21, 2018, 04:19 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on March 21, 2018, 06:18 AM:
yip, make him carry the shotgun BUT we better not hear you whining after he shoots multiple times at one that was 40 yards away on the first shot, and rolled him the next two shots, and it still got away, because as you'll soon learn, a shotgun ain't magic either! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on March 21, 2018, 06:25 AM:
To steal Geordies' line...."It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian"
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 21, 2018, 06:32 AM:
That was great Vic !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 21, 2018, 06:58 AM:
^^^ ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
^^^
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 21, 2018, 07:36 AM:
lol TR...thats the truth of it.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 21, 2018, 12:05 PM:
Geeze! I've been letting my comments above soak since last night and nobody called bullshit! What's wrong with you people? I hate friggin' ARs! I am surprised somebody didn't send me a private message warning that somebody had obviously stolen my password! Oh? I guess I disabled private messaging, huh? Still, somebody should have noticed such an obvious fake message, or what am I doing here?
Good hunting. El Bee
PS yes, expect it to be on the test!
[ March 21, 2018, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 21, 2018, 12:51 PM:
I was laughing after reading it. Figured you would clarify !
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 21, 2018, 12:54 PM:
Now I can say that I have had some AR's that were great shooters deadly accurate ! And to top if off the best of the best was A .223 Okay LB you can start now !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 21, 2018, 03:21 PM:
Boy, you are spot on, Paul! My AR is deadly accurate with anything I put through it! If I do my part.
But, again, I shouldn't have to police my own blurbs. You folks need to pay attention and let me know when I'm full of shit.
Yes, I know. That's a tall order. And, we cannot expect ko ko to do it all. Think about it. Just posting his own sage, yet brilliant comments is a full time job for an ordinary man, yet he finds time to make sure that I don't step on my dick, in a verbal sense.
Anyway, when it come to AR bullshit; IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on March 21, 2018, 05:50 PM:
I hunted with a few guys that used a AR, its not for me. But I seen one or two guys make some good shots with a AR. I had a mini 14 one time didn't shoot to bad but it would throw brass everywhere, not good for a reloader. For the past ten years I've been using a single shot encore makes you make the first shot count. Got to be quick to get a double.
As far as ARs go to each his own.
Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on March 21, 2018, 06:00 PM:
WTH Leonard? I thought you didn't like AR's. If I recall correctly you busted my balls severely over on the NPH site a few years back when I posted I had put one together for day lights. Rick
[ March 22, 2018, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 21, 2018, 06:11 PM:
Rick, if I did and you remember that, I guess I owe you an apology for some unclear reason? I think it's been a lot longer than two years since I've been on that board? Anyway, whatever works for you is fine by me. But personally, I think, well who cares, right?
Good hunting. El Bee
PS Me? bust balls? Maybe I was drunk? That can't be it? I haven't been drunk since I got out of the Army.
edit: Rick, I was looking at your enormous photo right now and it seems to me that your Nightforce is mounted very high off the bore? That reminds me of another reason why I didn't care for mine. Because of the height, I had to either be zeroed at 50 or 100. and when zeroed at 50, 100 yard shots were difficult. And, when I was zeroed at 100, 50 yard shots were not as accurate as I would like. For daylights on coyotes, anyway. I put it away and haven't fired it in probably 20 years?
[ March 21, 2018, 06:20 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on March 21, 2018, 06:27 PM:
Just kidding Leonard The eye relief and Cheek weld fit my fat head perfectly. Don't know why the photo posted so large. Still trying to learn how to use imgur now that photo bucket is not an option. Rick
Posted by NeilA (Member # 6789) on March 21, 2018, 07:41 PM:
I thought your post sounded a little odd Leonard, but I’m new to the forum.
The local ranchers where we go in Montana have a real dislike for AR’s. Apparently years ago someone with an AR shot the hell out of a couple of fence posts, so now anyone with an AR is not real welcome, or actually welcome at all. Not many people around there and they have good memories. Sucks that it only takes one person with poor judgement to screw it up for so many.
Maybe someone with an AR will shoot some coyotes near those ranches- probably would change their perspective.
Haha, that picture made my screen real tiny.
[ March 21, 2018, 07:55 PM: Message edited by: NeilA ]
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 22, 2018, 04:01 AM:
I hate AR's too, can't hit a dang thing with them.
Grizz, on imgur, down at the bottom of the links, choose large thumbnail instead of really freakin huge thumbnail.
Oh and what's with the dogs and yote slang? A few years ago some of y'all would've blown a gasket.
And on the 50 and 100 sight in, the 223/5.56 setup on an AR is able to sight in at 100 yards, then the bullet never crosses over the line of sight. You start out at 2.7" low at the muzzle, .5 low at 50, dead on at 100 and about 2" low at 200.
Sight in at 50, 1.5" high at 100, on at 200 and 9" low at 300.
So easy an okie can do it.
But I hate AR's
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on March 22, 2018, 04:23 AM:
That's how I have mine zeroed. 1.5" high at 100.
Been having too much fun with it. One of the just plain most "fun" guns I've ever messed with.
- DAA
Posted by NeilA (Member # 6789) on March 22, 2018, 07:13 AM:
I was thinking, probably one major benefit of AR’s is that you don’t need a gunsmith to fix them or swap out parts. Not many gunsmiths around here, and the ones left are always real busy.
I have a 300 Blackout AR pistol with a red dot, and another .223 HB that I just bought. My 9yo son is enamored with AR’s, so I’ll take them and him to the range shooting whenever we can.
I have the most fun with the .300 pistol with the red dot, I can usually do one ragged hole at 50,
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 22, 2018, 08:29 AM:
I apologize for my attitude towards the black machine gun. I'm not into fun recreational shooting. I must be missing something.
But, I'm not alone. Lots of commie Liberals out there that hate AR's and Liberals being Liberals, they are keen on spoiling your "fun".
There is no doubt that the platform is quite a bit better ergonomically, compared to a Mini 14 or Mini 30. Maybe it's the wood, but those POS rifles don't strike fear in the heart of your average "open minded Progressive". Don't worry, there ain't no such thing as an open minded Liberal.
So, in spite of Second Amendment protections, we may well lose something virtually priceless. Our guns, because those darn "fun rifles" don't impress our friends on the Left as much as they do we reasonable people.
Since they don't know and don't wanna know, all full semi auto machine guns could be confiscated, because; if it saves just one more life!
Don't say I didn't warn ya.
signed: CHICKEN LITTLE BOSKI
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on March 22, 2018, 09:08 AM:
Here ya go LB.
https://www.infowars.com/oregon-initiative-requires-gun-owners-to-surrender-assault-weapons/
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 22, 2018, 09:18 AM:
Molon Labe
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on March 22, 2018, 09:28 AM:
LOL check this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg2WnSz2l9o
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 22, 2018, 09:47 AM:
Never fish next to graffiti !
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 22, 2018, 02:58 PM:
Just remember Diane was thinking real hard about including those sniper rifles with scopes on them so they can't miss too...
They want em all and by dividing us, they think they'll get em.
I'm not as easily convinced!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 22, 2018, 03:13 PM:
At least her heart is in the right place.
Never trust a fucking Liberal!
Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on March 22, 2018, 07:52 PM:
Thanks for the tip Tom. I'll try and remember that, Rick.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 23, 2018, 06:28 AM:
I just happened to think of something. Back when I was a kid, in Minneapolis we had several lakes a ten year old could get to on a bike. I don't remember ever seeing graffiti, anywhere? The word hadn't been invented yet and when it was, it applied, exclusively, to New York Subway and then, thanks to movies, otherwise I wouldn't have known it existed?
But, that's another thing. Watch a train go by and try to find a boxcar without extensive, colorful, artful and talented graffiti. Now, think of why they lock up spray paint at Home Depot. All that "ART" produced with shoplifted spray paint.
Here's another thought, while I'm pondering civilization. Look, I'm not ready to give up on society and our culture, but it seems apparent that we exist in a parallel universe. Just think about the photos of the 23 or 24 year old home schooled bomber. To me, he looks totally average, clean-cut "kid" but we have people like the Las Vegas shooter and this "Rebel without a Cause" mad Bomber living side by side with normal, sane people that are horrified just by watching a kid crash on his skateboard and for sure cannot grasp things like beheadings and students hosing down classmates with a wicked AR15, or some "high capacity" handgun. And, all these people can't figure out how it is happening because the authorities have already made these places safe gun free zones? Seems illogical, but the most likely scene of a slaughter is a gun free zone.
Anyway, think about it. Every day we see evidence that our society is rotten to the core. I suggest we live side by side with twisted, fucked up people that look just like us. Maybe you think I'm out of line but I blame the Liberal element. There's not a damned thing wrong with the NRA but a hell of a lot wrong with Planned Parenthood. I think we are losing? Our core values are insignificant compared with the likes of FaceBook and Google. People with their nose in a goddamned smartphone ain't even worth mentioning anymore. I used to question the wisdom of allowing ten year olds a cell phone. But, dad is conned into it because Verizon practically gives away 4 phones for the price of one and now, 3 year olds know more about how to operate them than I do. And, that doesn't take much because I'm still in the stage where I only know how to turn them on. What's an App?
This technology is killing us. The Unabomber told us so, when he first started blowing up total strangers.
Look around. Half the people are Liberals, maybe more? And, they are sick, they have a mental illness. Who else would vote for Crooked Hillary and firmly believes, via groupthink, that Donald Trump is unfit to be President. But Oprah is. And, Obama was. And, W was too stupid to step out of the rain. That's another clue: all Republicans are stupid.
Okay, I'm done. Or, almost done. I am glad I won't be around to see what this country looks like in 20-30-40-50 years. Improved? Don't make me laugh! We are going to hell in a hand basket, is what!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 23, 2018, 07:50 AM:
No Leo we are going to hell in a jet ! I was raised a catholic and did not push religion on my children , my bad , they should have been in church every Sunday. I still recoil at Catholicism but today am a devote Christian. we have drifted so far from our core values that a return may be unsurmountable. My children were even less with their children and so it goes ! as a wise old coyote hunter once said weeze fucked !
P.S. I really don't like the new Pope !
[ March 23, 2018, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on March 23, 2018, 12:11 PM:
After reading LB and Pauls post you would think the world has gone to shit! It might be going that way but here in Oklahoma we still respect god,country and family. I see people everyday that will open a door for a lady or child say hello to a stranger. They will come out of the woodwork to help there fellow man, I have seen it happen time after time in my 60 yrs of being on gods green earth. You boys every thought about moving to the Great Plains of the USA it's a great place to live and raise a family. Now before you get all upset, let me say I'm not trying to start a pissing contest on who's right or wrong just giving you my 2 cents. As my Grandpa would say any day above ground is good day.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 23, 2018, 12:27 PM:
Eddie
I get it , I love that people that love the people but we are in harsh times. we have an entire generation that respects nothing! it scare
s me! I want to see the good but the media wields the power and it makes it difficult for anyone to see the truth . we the majority hired Donald Trump to drain the swamp what a task he has. I don't want to go all negative but we have a rough road and Ill probably be dead before the course is right !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 23, 2018, 03:11 PM:
First of all, I identify with Paul's previous post. I could have written it myself.
Second, Eddie. I have to tell you that I so admire the people and the State of Oklahoma. I've only passed through and I did go for a visit last year and saw nothing that would change my opinion in the slightest. And, I used to think Okies were a bunch of hillbillies. Wrong. I could actually live there, I am in tune with the whole concept.
Now, having said that....if I move anywhere, the odds on favorite is Arizona. If it don't work out, Oklahoma might be my next choice, if they will take a Kalifornia refuge? AZ only accepts us very grudgingly.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on March 23, 2018, 03:54 PM:
Everybody who's anybody in okie land has spent time in Kalifornia, including me but I was a child and had no say.
We definitely have our work cut out for us and a tv ban would be a great start! Of course then we have Twitter and face book and of course the wild wild web.
Electricity is of the devil!
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 24, 2018, 06:59 AM:
My best friends have always been okies never met one I didn't like! had two buddies when I was ten we built a still in their backyard made vodka out of taters I can still feel the burn! Raced motorcycles with another ! shot coyotes with Kelly J. he's a dog hog but I didn't care. best folks on the planet! And then there's
Geordie !
[ March 24, 2018, 07:31 AM: Message edited by: Paul Melching ]
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on March 24, 2018, 07:57 AM:
Hey El Bee;
Just got back from the swap meet. Saw a bumper sticker that you would have liked........."Liberal - Someone so open minded that all of their brains have leaked out ! "
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on March 24, 2018, 09:01 AM:
roflmao !
Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on March 25, 2018, 07:00 PM:
I once saw a bumper sticker that read.
"Had I known things were going to get this bad, I'd a picked my own cotton." Rick
Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on March 26, 2018, 03:02 PM:
That's a good one!!!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on March 26, 2018, 03:30 PM:
My recently deceased girlfriend from Oklahoma used to say all the time, in response to certain reports on the TV:
"We should've picked our own cotton".
I never failed to chuckle at the politically incorrect irony. Also; fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
Good hunting. El Bee
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