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Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 07, 2015, 10:51 PM:
 
The Donald is ah taking the muzzies to task over their world wide opinion concerning "gee-hod" on America. I support his idea 100%. In fact I think we should close all of our borders completely until someone who cares about our country's American Born CITIZENS welfare is in the White House and makes our country safe again. That mite sound like a difficult thing to do, but if they would let the welcome to America tit dry up, most if not all potential new Americans wouldn't be so anxious to come here, go to work, pay tax's, & earn American citizenship, like it use to be!
Thank You, Thank You Very Much Donald.
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 08, 2015, 01:36 AM:
 
Close the border.
If it saves just one innocent life, isn't it worth it ??
Do it for the children.
This shit sound familiar ?? Throw it back at them.

We have a couple of liberals where I work. Yanking their chains is cheap fun and more entertaining than renting a movie. Last week we had a beggar out front. (Homeless individual in liberal-speak). Mid-20s, Caucasian, able bodied looking male with a cardboard sign.
I made the observation to one of the libs that we have wet-backs who are willing to WALK here from Mexico to work while we have bums out front who are just a couple of more `donations` from a quick trip to the liquor aisle. It's too bad that we can't figure out a way to swap I.D.s to keep the wet-back who wants to work and deport the loser bum to Mexico. Kind of a guest worker exchange program, only different.

Yes, I really enjoy fukin' with liberals.
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 08, 2015, 07:02 AM:
 
Trump is an insufferable jack ass. If he gets the nomination we'll be assured of a historically bad presidency either way.

Liberty for all. If it's okay to go after Muslims this year, it will be okay to go after your favorite flavor of Ghost Story Believers next.

He's a fucking fear mongering bull shit artist extraordinaire. What he's offering up is god damn Nazi in nature.

FUCK THAT!

- DAA
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 08, 2015, 07:07 AM:
 
This is reply to koko

....and you think that's a fair fight? A battle of wits with an unarmed individual? Liberalism is a mental illness, Amigo.

I'm not sure if I am ashamed? or should be but there are two people that I have known for over 40 years and over 50 years that voted for Obama and I cannot find it in my heart to forgive them. These are people that bought into the Bush Hate of the Media so deeply, that they voted Democrat as retribution. As purely NAZI or Communist indoctrination as possible, on the public airwaves, no less!

Keep your powder dry, folks.

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: Dave, I'm not serious about favoring Trump but I like him in the mix. Some of the things he is saying need to be said, and evaluated. I sincerely doubt he will be the one left standing, but if he is, I will shut up and hope he beats Hillary. The last thing we need is another liberal democrat president.

[ December 08, 2015, 05:10 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 08, 2015, 09:44 AM:
 
Back during the first clinton dynasty years, a guy named Pat Buchannan announced his views to close the border too stop the here's you check, here's social security cards, here's the keys to your new casa, etc. The fucking Clinton backed media BBQ'd Pat Buchannans run for president, called him a nazi, said he was hitlers son etc. Imagine that , a fucking Clinton calling someone a nazi. These are the same fucking clintons that twenty years later are saying Muslims don't deserve to be called terrorists, and how dare anyone say close the open to anyone & eveyone borders. The same clintons that are preaching "git rid of all guns asap". The same clintons who said yesterday that we need to ban all assault weapons. The same clinton who claimed the Benghazi massacre was a reaction to a u t u b e video while standing in front of the caskets of the ambassador & his staff.
I've said it before, the Donald isn't my choice for president, but what he said , I agree with . I'll vote for trump if he wins the nomination , although Scott Walker was my choice. I'll vote for any republican that disagrees with clabbered cunt hillerie & bernie the communist .
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 08, 2015, 10:31 AM:
 
I'm not on board with "registering" citizens for their religion.

Period.

And yes, I do think Hitler would have approved.

I don't have answers. But sticking tough to the values and principles this country was founded on would be a good place to start. Sounds to me like Trump has proposed throwing them out, as inconvenient, as his first step?

I'm not glad he's in the mix. Just when I thought the process couldn't get any more fucked up, he's gone and damaged it even more.

This isn't going to do any of us any good in the long run.

- DAA
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 08, 2015, 11:38 AM:
 
Agree with Dave.

For as much good Trump has done to shake up the current norm of political correct-ness, his latest anti "all" muslim stance was waaaay overstepping, IMHO. In truth, I feel that reaction is playing directly into the hand of those who're orchestrating this whole ISIS mess...

Think of closing our borders to muslims in the same light as the Patriot Act. IE, a knee jerk reaction based on fear that ultimately cost EVERYONE a slice of precious freedom...

Weez fukked, any which way ya slice it.
 

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Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 08, 2015, 12:59 PM:
 
The Donald's idea makes more sense to me than anything & eveything ohbamamma & hillerie has said since I heard either one or both say anything about and including climate control , gun bans, magazine limits, ban all semi autos , blaming paranoid red neck baptist republicans for the terrorist attack on the Colorado abortion clinic , islam is a religion of peace. fuck I could go on for days reciting all of the ignorant excuses but I'll end it with the all time best from the liberal democrats... The newest greatest idea, if you're on the no fly list you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. Wow , that is a hell of a good response to redirect the effects of the most recent terrorist attack that so far has claimed 14 murdered & at least 20 wounded , all in the name of islum the religion of peace.

My next door neighbors are naturalized Americans who's familys fled post war Germany . They were put on a waiting list for background check to ensure they weren't nazis or communists, then forced" to secure a sponsor who posted a bond to guarantee that they would assimilate to the THEN American culture , and not become a burden on the United States economy. That form of immigration was acceptable then but for some strange reason today is considered racist. Just yesterday Norway offered Moozlums a free ticket back to Mecca for eveyone who is unhappy that they feel unwanted because of the beliefs.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 08, 2015, 01:03 PM:
 
Yeah, and I don't care for any more; "this is what they want, plays right into their hands, this is not who we are" stuff.

As far as singling out a religion, my attitude agrees with this guy. Sorry.

(had to go find this)
https://dotsub.com/media/72457cbc-fe18-4053-ae3f-6c7639cf4e79/embed/


Good hunting. El Bee

edit: we are being played for suckers!


[ December 08, 2015, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 08, 2015, 02:18 PM:
 
Here's a sensible man's opinion.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428201/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-policy-discussion
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 08, 2015, 03:37 PM:
 
Maybe y'all should read up on Islam. It's not radical Muslim's as according to the Koran, if they don't convert to Islam, they should be put to death.

That's the basis for Islam, convert or die. They have waged gihad on us and keeping them out "until the US Representitives can figure out what the hell is going on" is the only answer.

If a dog is trying to bite you, do you let it in your house?

Trump is only speaking the truth on what needs to be done if we want to get this country back on track and safe again. Hiding in the desert won't make it all better.
 

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Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on December 09, 2015, 07:19 AM:
 
Obama wants 10,000 Syrians here for the same reason he had Eric Holda run Fast and Furious. He is hoping that at least 100 jihadists will make it in and that will mean 100 more attacks where he or hildabeast can chant "We need more common sense gun laws." Obama doesn't give a shit about the murder rate. He doesn't give a shit about terrorism. He wants two things and that is the socialization of the US and the government having complete control. If he gets his way, we will all be under arrest for posting on huntmasters.

Good Luck

I say shut the border down to everyone with just a few exceptions. One exception would be foreigners that have had visas in the past and obeyed the rules while here. Everyone one else would have to go through a long waiting period while they were thoroughly vetted. Also, they must have adequate identification to prove who they are. If their home country cannot be trusted to give us truthful information, then they don't get in and we don't even bother to vet them. Like Koko, I propose common sense immigrant control.

Question: Why would any western country let these people in? Why isn't Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, and other Muslim countries bringing them in?

edited in: DAA I would like to know how you embed pictures on your huntmasters posts. I only know how to add links.

http://s1186.photobucket.com/user/Arznative/library/huntmasters

[ December 09, 2015, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: Aznative ]
 

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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on December 09, 2015, 07:52 AM:
 
El Bee;
I don't believe in fighting fairly with those who would deny me everything that I believe in.
Yes, they are mentally defective and often mentally damaged.
Not my fault that they make it easy to point out the flaws in their `logic`.
A wise man once told me long ago "If you're planning a fair fight........your tactics suck."
It was true then and it's true now.
 

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on December 09, 2015, 08:50 AM:
 
I am with the Donald on this one. Marauding bands of Catholics, Methodists or Lutherans are not trying to do us harm, by the way.

There is only one religion that says either to convert or be killed, and that is the so-called 'religion of peace'.

I would honestly call for listing Islam as a political ideology rather than a religion.

It sucks when people look up to the draft dodging, scum-bag, conscientious objector, Muhammad Ali to weigh in and condemn Trump's comments.

ISIS has ALREADY said they want to infiltrate the refugees with terrorists...WHY ON EARTH would we not want to take a step back, get the vetting process down pat, and THEN look at taking in some refugees? I don't understand what is wrong with that.

The Washington elite are in lock step to disapprove of almost everything Trump says, that they look silly when they start disagreeing with common sense. That even includes Dick Cheney, who I think is a really good man.

Like Koko said, there is nothing about fighting fair in this war. It is going to be bad enough trying to root out the US citizens that get radicalized without letting in more that come in through the guise of being a 'refugee'.

[ December 09, 2015, 09:05 AM: Message edited by: booger ]
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 09, 2015, 10:23 AM:
 
For you democrats out there, you know who you are, even Jimmy Carter banned Iranians from coming into this country.
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 09, 2015, 11:02 AM:
 
If you wanna refuse immigrants, I'm fine with that. Close the border to EVERYONE, then.
Don't cherrypick or legislate who's "safe" or who's "ok" to let in the country, and who's not.

Do it RIGHT, or don't do it, at all.

There is nothing in the Constitution or Bill of Rights that mandates the USA to accept immigrants, refugees, etc. IE, there is no legal obligation, or obstruction to closing our borders, as a matter of national safety...
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 09, 2015, 11:31 AM:
 
Nationality and religion aren't even remotely the same thing.

And yeah, I've read the docs. I'm familiar with the history of Islam and the sword of the prophet and all their ghost story bullshit. A lot of institutional violence there, for sure. It ain't a pimple on the ass of the people that have been killed in the name of Christ, by Christians, in their 2000 year history, but whatever. Hell, there have probably been more people killed by Christian nut fucks going after abortion clinics than there have been by domestic muslim terrorists. I really don't give a fuck about any of that though.

Simple question. If you are going to do anything based on a persons religion, like say, register them in a database, like sex offenders, how are you going to test for it?

There will need to be a way of verifying, one way or another. What's "The Donald" propose? He's talked about persecuting US citizens for being muslim, surely he has a way of ferreting them out.

Or has he not put anything at all out there, that actually makes one lick of fucking sense and could actually be accomplished? I honestly don't know, based on what I have heard from him, I go out of my way not to hear anymore than I have to. Maybe he does know how to prove you're a muslim, even if you say you aren't?

I've got nothing more to say here. It's pointless. Y'all really ought to be careful what you wish for though. You get what your asking for here, and you just better believe it's going to come back and bite you right in your Christian asses a lot sooner than you seem to think possible.

And, as if, any of this amounts to a pile of shit anyway. This country has so much bigger fish to fry, it's a tragedy some fucked up freaks doing their whacko bullshit have so stupendously succeeded in accomplishing their goals. ISIS has to be giddy with glee how perfectly we seem to be going along with their plan. This crap is exactly what they want out of the shit they do.

- DAA
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 09, 2015, 12:01 PM:
 
Prezactly.

BTW, for the kew-ran scholars here, its also written that renouncing i-slam to hide intentions from the infidel is perfectly acceptable.

SO, it ain't like anybody's gonna loose virgins in paradise if they check "NO" on the Donnie trump "r u a muslim?" immigration survey sheet...
 

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Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 09, 2015, 12:07 PM:
 
It ain't po light to leg hump in publik.
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 09, 2015, 12:48 PM:
 
LMAO

If speaking out for the desire safeguard our individual freedoms against fear mongering & ignorance is leg humping, then please pass the Levis & KY jelly...
 

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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on December 09, 2015, 12:55 PM:
 
Public leg humping... Really?

If this is what it's come to around here, I got absolutely not use for it.

- DAA
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 09, 2015, 01:31 PM:
 
I have been hearing about all the distress of folks because Obama will not utter the words "Islamic Terrorists".

I think it is a step in the wrong direction to be concerned about a religious test. As has been stated frequently, (and correctly) Islam is much more than "just" a religion. Sharia law comes along with the faith, which is a total political ideology.

So, a religious test, Christian, Jew or Muslim is a little weak in determining an applicant's politics. And, (convert or die) is a bit more radical than stating if he is Protestant or Orthodox, and it's doubtful that question is asked? In other words, I don't know if an immigrant is asked to state a religious preference, or not?

I think it a bit premature to talk about muslim data bases and in fact, I believe Trump either was misquoted or misspoke. I think there might be in existence, a database of radicalized muslims? I see no harm in this, even if somebody wants to twist it into a "religion database".

In other words, I am against this politically correct bullshit. We have a fucking problem and we need to do something about it! As a lot of folks point out, they are beating us over the head with our own rules of fairness and laughing what suckers we are! I'm not at the point of; DO SOMETHING, EVEN IF IT'S WRONG, but, there has to be a solution that will keep these evil cocksuckers out of the country. And, yes, if there is no other way, that includes everybody, no exceptions. There, it's fixed!

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on December 09, 2015, 02:27 PM:
 
I have lived in 4 foreign countries excluding the USA. I have traveled to & thru maybe a dozen more. IN EVERY FOREIGN COUNTRY I have been to I was required to hand over my passport BEFORE I was allowed to enter said country including Canada & the United Kingdom. I have worked and or lived in 4 muslum countries . In EVERY muslum country I entered I was required ( or leave on the next plane ) to read & sign my name saying I understood and WOULD OBEY muslum law(s) or exit the country within 24 hours . I was encouraged to convert to muslum religion or not engage in any kind of muslum involved friendships that didn't involve work. I was schooled verbally & by book not to speak to or touch ANY or all muslum women unless I and they were escorted by an adult male muslum family member or a muslum qualified male was in attendence 100% of said visit /conversation. So if anyone who reads this finds fault or is in disbelief I encourage any and all take the time to check up on how a "NON MUSLUM IS TO ACT IN A MUSLUM COUNTRY". Then decide if I am blowing bull shit or speaking/typing the truth about my experiences abroad.

[ December 09, 2015, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Prune Picker ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 09, 2015, 02:48 PM:
 
Did you mean; how a non-muslim is to act in a MUSLIM country, by chance? Or, maybe I misunderstand what you are saying; second to last line?

edit: PS let's try to keep the conversation moderately civil, K?

[ December 09, 2015, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
 

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Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on December 09, 2015, 03:49 PM:
 
The Analytical Economist on December 9, 2015

Following the Paris terror attacks, more than half the nation’s governors voiced opposition to Syrian refugees entering their state. Donald Trump took this a step further, calling for the complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S.

And those who are unaware that Islam isn’t a race were quick to denounce Trump’s comments as racist. Surprisingly, Trump found an unexpected ally: Nidal Alsayyed, an Imam who leads a mosque in Beaumont, Texas.

As Breitbart reports, Alsayyed, the Imam from east Texas told his local television station, “I certainly see it to be wise [to] stop temporarily accepting any new Muslim immigrants [refugees and non-refugees] into the United States.”

The Texas Imam said, “It does not matter whether Trump said it or anyone else … American Muslims need to say we are with this country.” He also said they should raise the American flag in support of the nation. He continued, “We American Muslims need to be sincere in our religion and to the country we are living in. Peace comes before religion. We need to be truthful and transparent when we express a viewpoint or feedback. It does not matter whether Trump said it or anyone else,” he said.

The Imam faced some backlash on his Facebook page, to which he released the statement:

I only said what I believe is right. Trump is not against American Muslims; He is against any new Muslim immigrants (refugees and non-refugees)! There is a big difference here! We cannot be emotion
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 09, 2015, 04:37 PM:
 
I bet Trump would be smart enough to choose Muslim countries to ban along with all other countries as he has also proposed to close the borders. But like the part that keeps getting left out, until we can figure out what's going on, everyone just assumes he's a racist and a dumbass.

Oh and so no one feels left out, Muslims will kill heathens too.

Ok just so we are clear, I don't care what religion or nationality anyone is, if one or the other declares war on us and has proven their intent, keep them out of the country. Closing the borders would solve lots of problems.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 09, 2015, 05:01 PM:
 
Sudden thought. You know, I heard on day one that these two asshole Jihadists were both wearing GoPro cameras on their chests when they were killing people. I wonder when we will see the carnage? I love how they keep protecting us from the realities of extreme Islamic terrorism? Seeing some of it might change a few liberal minds? One can only hope.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by the bearhunter (Member # 3552) on December 09, 2015, 06:01 PM:
 
tell every fucking one entering this country to kiss a pig and eat bacon.
that'll weed em out!
back too my corner
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 10, 2015, 07:36 AM:
 
^A peep from the Peanut Gallery. Nice hearing from ya.

I want to make mention of something that I believe to be very important. I hate censorship with a passion. I believe in the right of free speech. I wish everybody would understand that there are damned few places, like on college campuses, to express yourself, but you can do so on Huntmasters. I have been bothering folks on message boards for more than twenty years and have experienced "moderation". Somebody deems to know what is offensive for everybody else and censors posts for the good of humanity. Naughty words and other offensive ideas should be deleted, like in China.

It will never happen here. You guys can appreciate our policies, or choose to be offended that somebody has the nerve to write things that piss you off. Like Bearhunter, for instance. Don't know what his problem is, but whatever?

So, the Internet is a rude place, you have to be a big boy, or take your ball and go home. Or, have the balls to participate in the give and take on an adult level.

Believe me, I try mightily to be impartial while still expressing a personal point of view. That's the most refreshing gift that members can offer the rest of us. Tell us what you think. Most of us can handle it and appreciate it for whatever it's worth. Or, you have the option of ignoring assholes like Leonard, for instance.

The site is coming up for renewal in less than a month. You know, $. I want to believe it's worth it; fourteen years of The New HuntmastersBBS.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 10, 2015, 09:10 AM:
 
I'm actually pro-trump on many of his stances, and for several reasons. Namely, he's not a party-line-toter, and speaks his mind. I do feel that he is a patriot at heart, despite some of his stunts seeming contrary, at times...

I just wish he'd realize that, sometimes, the outlandish-ness could be 'toned down' a bit, in order to more successfully make a point.

The delivery is always an integral part of successful dialogue. Trump needs a reminder that his outspoken nature can sometimes sabotage the more important message he attempts to convey. Lordy knows I could be reminded of that, at times!

I just hope trump can reign his ego in enough to keep his arguments centered around reinforcing what makes the USA unique, and how we can protect it (and ourselves) without voting our liberties away in the process...

[ December 10, 2015, 09:11 AM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]
 

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Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on December 10, 2015, 09:26 AM:
 
It seems that the more "outlandish-ness" he is the more support he receives. I don't support Trump but like you I do support some of his rhetoric. If the choice is Trump or Clinton Trump has my vote.
 

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 10, 2015, 09:34 AM:
 
Not in the eyes of this voter, hence my opinion.
IMHO, he's got a good thing going, but don't go to the well once too many times...

Remember, trump doesn't have to convince the likes of "us" to vote him, vs. billary. He's' got to win over the hearts & minds of ooodles of hapless, impressionable, swing voters. Just sayin', in that regard, his latest outburst didn't help him one iota. And if anything, he might very well have begun alienating otherwise conservative voters (like myself) from supporting him...

Capiche?
 

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Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on December 10, 2015, 10:37 AM:
 
Dana Parino says Hillary has roughly 240 electorial votes sewed up as of right now...if nothing changes.

Mark
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 10, 2015, 10:41 AM:
 
Yes, understand, and now with that clue as to Fred's ethnic background. Besides, he once talked about especially good pizza in NY.

But, Trump. I don't think he is as radical as some comments we have seen here. Yeah, he's obnoxious and politically incorrect, but I don't think he's a NAZI. That word is tossed around without substance quite a lot. I'm not defending him, though.

What I said much earlier is that he is stoking the flames and some things he says, many of the others are too timid to talk about it. Okay, maybe timid is the wrong word but they have handlers and advisors and have to be very careful. Because, the Media are waiting to trap any Republican candidate and they know it. Trump don't give a shit. Some of the shit he comes up with would have torpedoed someone else a long time ago.

If you want my unvarnished opinion, and if you have been paying attention, I mentioned the guy I am strongly leaning toward a long time ago. I think Cruz is extremely talented, possibly the smartest man to ever run for President. Lots of opinions, but I like many of his positions. Do I think he can beat Hillary in the general election? Boy, that's the problem. I don't think he has that broad appeal to attract independents and the low information voter.

I will stick to what I said before, almost any Republican would get my vote against Hillary. Two that I would vote for reluctantly are Bush and Christy. Bush acts like he's on quaaludes, and Christy; he pushed Obama over the top in the last election with his passionate embrace, on the romantic Jersey shore.... for which, he will never be forgiven.

Going to be interesting, though. I can't see a way for Trump to drop out, right now? But, I think he should.

Good hunting. El Be
 

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Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on December 10, 2015, 11:35 AM:
 
Capiche?, yes I do, rather fluently. Are you saying you would vote for Clinton over Trump?
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 10, 2015, 11:48 AM:
 
I didn't see anybody advocating that? Voting for Hillary?
 

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Posted by JP (Member # 4095) on December 10, 2015, 11:54 AM:
 
Your right Leonard, I went off the deep end on that question,apologizes for knockemdown.

From CBS this morning:

Poll: Donald Trump back on top, with Ted Cruz climbing into second.

I hope Cruz is the nominee and I'll vote for him in the primary. But if Trump is nominee he has my vote.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 10, 2015, 01:09 PM:
 
No prob.

One thing that rubs me wrong is the hinting by Trump that if he isn't treated nice, he might decide to run as an Independent. Assuming somebody else pulls ahead, and gains the republican nomination. Or something? If he did that Ross Perot move, he would be a total asshole. And, as night follows day, the Hildabeast would win and we would be fuked.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on December 10, 2015, 01:45 PM:
 
I like Cruz. He has the same problem as Trump has--he is hated by the Republican Establishment.

The GOP is their own worst enemy. They have to start admitting that Trump may be the guy that gets the nomination.

Something that would make the Washington Elite apoplectic would be a Trump/Cruz ticket.

As I see it, the problem will start if the old line Republican types try to undermine the nomination process and we end up with a brokered convention. If that happens, I think the odds are pretty good that Trump and/or Cruz gets screwed in favor of a more 'electable' candidate--read Jeb Bush, or maybe even Mitt Romney...in that case I think Trump goes third party and Bill Clinton ends up as 'first husband'.

I hope I am wrong...

[ December 10, 2015, 01:49 PM: Message edited by: booger ]
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 10, 2015, 02:45 PM:
 
I'm sorry I resorted to foul language and called someone a democrat.
 

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Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 10, 2015, 02:47 PM:
 
The biggest problem we face in the election is if Donald doesn't get the nomination, he will run as an independent or be forced to if the Republican party throws him out.

Hillary will be a shoe in if he splits the party.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 10, 2015, 02:51 PM:
 
That's not who we are, Tom. Go to your room.
 

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on December 16, 2015, 07:42 AM:
 
Found out some interesting information yesterday on the prospect of some of the candidates, (read Trump and Carson), going independent if they don't win the Republican nomination.

I guess 44 of 50 states have 'sore loser' laws, which will not allow a person on the ballot if they have already declared as a Republican or Democrat in the primaries.

So, the ability for Trump or Carson to pull a Perot is almost nil if they don't win the nomination. They would have had to be on the primary ballot as an Independent to run third party and be on the main ballot.

The really scary part of this equation is that some of the cigar smoking, heavy hitter RNC donors have indicated that they would throw their money to Hilary if a Trump or Cruz was nominated.

Don't know if that is just conjecture or the truth, but it would not surprise me to have the weasel Karl Rove pull something shady to undermine the RNC to get Shrillary elected if he ended up not getting his way if an 'establishment' candidate was not nominated.

[ December 16, 2015, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: booger ]
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 16, 2015, 09:06 AM:
 
That's quite a stretch, if you ask me?

Rove would promote Hillary over Cruz? It seems to me that Rove would support any Republican over Hillary? Where did you get that idea?

So, Rove would only support a moderate and not a bomb thrower like Trump or a rebel like Cruz? I'm not trying to stick up for Rove but I do think he knows a bit about politics.

People are free to speculate to their heart's content, but some of it is straight off the Ouija board.

We'll see.

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on December 16, 2015, 09:54 AM:
 
LB,
That is my opinion alone. I used to like Mr. Rove, but what I have seen here in Kansas is a bit disturbing.

He, as well as our senior senator, Pat Roberts, have been doing everything they can to undermine conservative candidates and throw support to more moderate people.

Rove sounds like a conservative, but deep down, he despises the Tea Party folks. I have watched him on Hannity and his rhetoric differs from what I have seen him do on the ground.

A couple of years ago, our junior Senator, Jerry Moran, had opposition from a guy by the name of Todd Tiahart, who used to be a Congressman from the Wichita, Kansas district.

Even though Moran is a staunch conservative, Rove came to Wichita and Topeka, stumping for Mr. Tiahart, who was an establishment moderate.

Moran ended up winning big, but it surprised me how Rove handled this.

I have a bad feeling about what he would do if he didn't perceive that the right candidate was nominated.

I think 'ol Karl is motivated by dollar signs and not what is best for the Republican party or the country.

[ December 16, 2015, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: booger ]
 

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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on December 16, 2015, 06:54 PM:
 
It's worse than that, even, Tim. Even Moran has his skeletons. In the last cycle when he wasn't running, he was the big cheese for the GOP group charged with the job of setting up the table for the best candidates for the Senate, nationwide. Mississippi had a Tea Party-esque fella running in the primary and Moran led the charge to put all the GOP money behind his opponent, the establishment guy that eventually won the primary and general.

I'm a bit more leery of any of this shit. Trump was all Obama, all Hitlery and all Democrap for a long, long time. Maybe he was just playing the cards that were dealt and schmoozing the side that was in control of things, but I don't trust anyone that changes course to exploit the wind d'jour when it comes to politics. I'm genuinely concerned that the guy is where he is to trash the conservative process in this election - what Rush called "Operation Chaos" when he railed on Hitlery last time in her battle against President Ass Hat. Worried that Trump's job is to prevent someone like Cruz from getting the nod because that would be devastating to Billary come debate time.

At the same time, I see Bernie Sanders as a tool. With Trump taking all the air, Hitlery barely gets a mention except for debate day. If it weren't for the appearance of a race between Sanders and her, she'd get even less. I'm all but convinced that Sanders' campaign serves only to create the impression that there is some sort of race on the Dem side so that the liberal media have something to talk about allowing them to get her name some time on the air.

I think the whole pile of shit is a ruse, on both sides of the ticket. Have been a Cruz supporter since day one and I get more firmly entrenched in that position every time I hear the man talk.

BTW, my spider senses go ape shit when Trump fails time and again to discuss what his actual plans are, if elected. All he says is that it'll be "beautiful" and that it will be "yuge". In the world of high finance and business, it's a good plan to hold your cards close to the vest, indicate your intent but don't give up the details. That shit doesn't fly when you're running for an elected office using tax money. As a voter and tax payer, I expect details.
 

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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 17, 2015, 09:54 AM:
 
Well, he's not using taxpayer money, if that makes any difference?

As I said before, I like to see him in the mix, but the Media is allowing him to suck all the air from the process.

I wish he would decline and drop out and I swear, I would vote for anybody against Hillary but at this point, I like Cruz. The fact that establishment Republicans don't like him is significant but not a deal breaker.

All I want is someone who has a decent chance of DRIVING A STAKE THROUGH HER HEART, so she can never again be a factor. That would be so sweet!

Good hunting. El Bee
 

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Posted by Bomba (Member # 71) on December 19, 2015, 07:32 PM:
 
Bomba ask chief about problem with Muslim
Chief say...

quote:

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Tell good coyote from bad coyote no different than Muslim people.
Recall find small coyote in spring long ago. It too young to survive on own so village take it and feed and play and love it.
One day coyote kill all chicken in village.
Cannot trust Coyote. They welcome no more.

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