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Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 22, 2015, 04:34 PM:
We've decided to move to an older restored home. I like them, just something about a basement and detached garage.
Here's two, whatcha guys think. Am I crazy ?
http://www.zillow.com/hom es/for_sale/Baker-City-OR/pmf,pf_pt/86287395_zpid/35184_rid/days_sort/44.805772,-117.753525,44.74338,-117.909908_rect/12_zm/
Here's the other.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/New-Plymouth-ID/pmf,pf_pt/96904720_zpid/46726_rid/days_sort/44.070567,-116.492844,43.817436,-117.118378_rect/10_zm/2_p/
[ May 22, 2015, 04:39 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 22, 2015, 05:15 PM:
Either one seems like a lot of house for the money. Lots are on the small side. That second one, larger but it's been on the market a long time, you have to wonder why?
Good luck, El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 22, 2015, 05:38 PM:
Yeah , I'm with ya LB. Were going to cruise by and check out the 2nd one. Tomorrow night after my wife gets off work.
That house is on the west end of Idaho about 10 miles from the Oregon border. The economy is dead as hell. It's about 30 miles from work, we have a store about 10 miles from that location, where, I could very probably find work.
As far as the house in Baker City. I'm working my contact list..
Who knows ?
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 22, 2015, 05:59 PM:
From the pictures I like the second place better.
I miss having a basement.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 23, 2015, 01:11 AM:
New Plymouth is a very nice place. My ex wifes Grandparents lived there so we visited there quite a bit back in the 80's and early 90's. They lived just east of the Elementary school right across the street from the track.We stayed there and would then head up to Hells Canyon. I always liked it up there. She also had an uncle that had a dairy farm there too.
As far as the older house thing goes. I like older better to. Got rid of a New cookie cutter home in favor of an older, smaller fixer upper. Don't regret it.
[ May 23, 2015, 05:18 AM: Message edited by: UTcaller ]
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 23, 2015, 04:56 AM:
Not so sure about old houses. Had one of those, for a long time, don't miss it... But I'm liking the idea of small(er) ones. If I ever move, then next house is going to be a lot smaller. With a bigger shop area.
That's my idea of just right. Big, beautiful shop, small detached house.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2015, 06:11 AM:
Dave Allen, I know I don't have to caution you to control your wanderlust in regards to Southern California, specifically, San Diego. Yes, I understand why, but another reason is that you could buy ten Baker City houses for the price of one average home anywhere along the coast. Say what you will about the State, but the weather is incomparable, the most temperate climate in the world, neither too hot nor too cold. One of our members just rebuilt after a fire destroyed his home. Big 6,000+ sq.ft. house, but the interesting part is, it doesn't have air conditioning, or central air, the walls are a foot thick and insulated.
My daughter is trying to find something reasonable down there and if not, is considering AZ. Apple must be a nice outfit to work for, they will let Corey work from home and fly up to that new "world port" once every six weeks just to show his face. (Corey is my son-in-law) Now, if you want to see an amazing facility, google what is under construction in Cupertino. Somebody used a drone and video'ed the whole thing on YouTube.
On the other hand, there is no denying the attraction of small town America. Good luc, Dave.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 23, 2015, 08:14 AM:
Yep LB. I'm with ya there is no arguing the climate down there. We have what I consider moderate snowfall but, the roads are always a sheet of ice for a month it seems like, plus 100 degree days in the summer.
It's weird as you get older you kind of go back to your roots ? I grew up in a small town in western Oregon (Junction City) started working on a farm, when I was 14 or 15 ? road my bike to work.
My wife is from the Fruitland Idaho area, near that house in New Plymouth. Her dad lives in New Plymouth also. She's 46 I'm 51 now.
This kinda stuff started hitting me 4-5 years ago, and now it's hitting her..Lol
Excuse my rambling. My daughter and I are going to La Grande Oregon, for cheer tryouts next Friday @ Eastern Oregon University.
All three of us were up there last Friday checking it out. If she makes the team it would provide a partial scholarship.
We are moving west anyway and this provides more motivation, to due so. If she makes the team, it's a done deal. If not it's probably still a 70% chance she goes there.
On that note, we spoke with several advisers ect, last week. Really nice people. I was very impressed !!
Thanks all for listening. Lot's on my mind.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 23, 2015, 09:25 AM:
Well see, that's exactly why Shelley and Corey are focused on moving, now. But, the casual planning has been going on for three years at least. Daughter #1 was graduated from Cal State Long Beach Wednesday and #2 from high school and will be going to party central in Santa Barbara, next year.
And, you know how it is with kids, nothing else matters, parents can't relocate when children are in school, there is some kind of rule?
So, because of the graduation, they were down visiting me for a few days, and then to move Peyton's furniture back home. Man, at the cost of supporting a student, tuition and in dorms or off campus! And, I used to bitch about a measly ten grand!
But, the big news is that they were starting to consider ARIZONA ! That kinda, sort renews my quest. If I could narrow it down to a single quadrant, it would be of enormous help! Well, I could eliminate the Navajo quadrant, so that makes it a little easier. I still like Dove Mountain.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit:I think it's interesting, what they are building. With more money than any other corporation, why not?
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=apple%27s+new+buildin&ei=6h5hVb0HxuigBL2SgtAH
[ May 23, 2015, 04:45 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on May 23, 2015, 04:07 PM:
quote:
But, the big news is that they were starting to consider ARIZONA !
Great, just great.
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on May 24, 2015, 05:17 AM:
Funny thing you guys talking about the west coast being the best climate. That is a sure bet for the continental US. Last week one morning after watching a Fox Poll that showed Hildebeast beating everyone else, I pulled up the best countries for expatriates to retire. Quinto Ecuador came up as the number one place to retire. The climate in Quinto is very stable year round because it is on the equator with 12 hours of daylight year round. Because the altitude is 9,000 ft, the daily highs average 66 degrees during the day and 50 degrees at night. If that is too cold you can retire in Mendallin, Columbia with an altitude of 5,000 ft. Highs are 80 degrees with lows of 60 degrees. On one site Quinto was the number one city and Mendallin was number four.
Dave: as far as old houses go, I would stay away from Stairs if over 55 years of age. Also, get a good plumbing inspection where they run a video scope through the pipes checking for corrosion. One of the most expensive repairs a home owner can face is replacing the sewer pipes within the home. Many of these old homes have cast iron pipes which has a rated life of 50 years but can last up to 100 years. My neighbor is dealing with that right now. They are using a technology called pipe bursting where they hydraulically blow the cast iron pipe apart while they feed in new flexible pipe in right behind it. They do have to dig a 2' by 2' hole through the floor at every joint. Usually the damage done to flooring and fixtures is more that the pipe repair itself.
Good Luck
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2015, 06:50 AM:
AZ, It sorta figures that a poll showing Cankles beating everyone else will also show the best places to live being Ecuador and Columbia. Based on just climate? My father-in-law wasn't allowed to fly much less consider living at an elevation of 9,000 feet, and that might apply to a significant number of retirees.
You want to trust a poll of people willing to elect a done nothing mean lying bitch? I wouldn't.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 24, 2015, 11:15 AM:
Thanks for the head's up on the plumbing. I forgot about that. I just called the owner she said the plumbing and electrical was all updated in 2000.
I think were headed over later to check out the inside ect..Last night the outside sure passed the eyeball test.
Chad that's funny you know where New Plymouth is. I bet 1/2 the people in Boise have no idea ?
Lol...
[ May 24, 2015, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2015, 12:01 PM:
Sounds good, except "upgraded plumbing" would usually mean water pipes and not necessarily the sewer lines.
Make them an offer they can't refuse, Godfather.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 24, 2015, 12:06 PM:
Yeah the nice thing about both Fruitland and New Plymouth is that they are both really nice small communities but you're only 15 minutes from Ontario which is bigger and has the stores and such. Best of both worlds.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 24, 2015, 05:37 PM:
Agreed Chad, In fact that exactly what we did today. Headed over to Ontario, the girls wanted to go to Joanne's fabric or whatever it's called ? had dinner @ a Chinese joint.
Yeah LB I need to get specific on the sewer lines. The husband is in Thailand right now, guess they are moving there.
We shall see ?
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 24, 2015, 08:33 PM:
I had no idea there was another Ontario? Sometimes Ontario, CA gets confused with the Provence in Canada. Fact everybody should know, before Upland was incorporated in, (I think) 1903, it was called North Ontario. Ontario has a population of around 190,000 and Upland is about 75,000. This will be on the test, so pay attention!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 25, 2015, 04:43 AM:
C'mon on............Everybody knows where Ontario is.
It's just south of the L.A. / Canada Freeway.
Yes ???
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on May 25, 2015, 07:06 AM:
Flew from Ontario airport to Palm springs once I think in '82 going back to 29 stumps. Boy were my arms tired too.
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on May 25, 2015, 07:17 AM:
I don't know if Idaho has changed since then but I remember all the residents of Fruitland and New Plymouth would drive to Ontario (Oregon) to get there gas and groceries and such because there was no sales tax in Oregon but there was in Idaho.Same with when they bought there trucks..Thought that was a nice perk at the time also.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 25, 2015, 09:51 AM:
Yep pretty much the same Chad. Vehicles get tricky though. You have to pay Idaho tax when registering even if you bought in Oregon.
I think in the old days guys could slip thru the cracks on that ?
Yeah if you buy food and all other stuff no sales tax. Idaho is @ 6%
It almost seems like I've heard of another Ontario, it's like in Kansas or Iowa or something ?
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 18, 2015, 06:30 PM:
Note: just a heads up for married men out there.
House Hunting sucks !! You can agree on many things, until, push comes to shove..
It's amazing !! When women start looking @ houses. They seem to think it's like buying on a credit card with no limit. And ya don't have to pay back..LOL !!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 19, 2015, 07:30 AM:
Yes, females seem to focus on stuff you wouldn't even consider. Bless their hearts.
I'm not agreeing with you on the unlimited credit card situation, if my experience was any indication? My wife was a lot more practical than I. In fact, when I got home from work, one day 41 years ago, she told me that she put some money down on a house. This house! Apparently, I was content to live forever in a house that was too small for our needs? Needless to say, it was one of the smartest things I have ever done, not to dispute her, know what I mean?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 19, 2015, 08:56 AM:
I get what your saying LB. Excuse me, I was a little frustrated last night and used this Forum as a platform to vent. Lol
I guess what, I'm really trying to say is. We have a very functional home. Bought new almost 22 years ago, yep plenty of equity and such.
Now were talking about moving and such and all of a sudden she get's nit-picky ? She was all on board two week ago.
We've looked @ other houses than the two, I linked above. All nice cribs
I think she's more of a being afraid of change when it all comes to it ?
On that note. While, I don't make mega bucks, because I have a somewhat grasp on Farm Equipment ? This allows me the chance to live in rural America. I mean really, if ya think about it, how many dudes out there would give their left nut, to live in a town of under 2,000 and work in a town of under 5,000 ?
BLM five miles away...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 19, 2015, 09:09 AM:
Yes, and it brings up my jealousies and envies.
See, I have always needed a large metropolitan city for my talents. (such as they are)
I have admired people that could live anywhere they wanted, and still earn an income. Like, police officers, like artists. Like teachers, ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
Like Troy.
Not me, I always had to commute. Some people don't understand what that means? Whatever. It means people like me live in the suburbs and drive to work, sometimes unreasonable distances.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 19, 2015, 09:52 AM:
I've always heard of folks spending two hours and such, to get too work ?
I can't imagine that ?
That would be like living in Twin Falls, Idaho, Or say Baker City, Oregon. and driving to where, I live, work. Nampa Idaho..
I understand why people do it though..
[ June 19, 2015, 09:54 AM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 19, 2015, 02:40 PM:
New Plymouth isn't bad other than the FOG!
Skeeters.
They look nice, but no matter what I can't live in town even if it's small like N.P.
Yes! smaller houses are better, easier to clean, heat and keep cool.
Good luck on your choice. Moving is hard after ten or more years of do you like this area or that one. Way to many houses our new place jumped out at us and it's brand new 781sq.ft. Built by a really good builder probably over built but I won't have to worry about keeping warm this winter. We stayed in Idaho but not ready to let the world know the spot we went to.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 19, 2015, 06:02 PM:
Just a remark, in conversation earthwalker, no putdown intended, but, my family room is 800 sq ft. I absolutely see the charm and practicality of a small house.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 19, 2015, 08:22 PM:
Both Abilene and Kansas are the sorts of places more urbanized folks like to make fun of. That's okay, if that's what keeps them away. I can't say that I've ever lived in a bigger house, and never wanted to. I'm what you might call very practical when it comes to money. Dad told me that mom once said she could give all three of us $5 at sunrise and by noon, my brother and sister would both be broke by lunch while I'd likely die with $4.95 left over. I've always been of a mind that the more you have, the more you need to maintain, and that costs money, too. My house is a 4 bed (2 non-compliant), 2 full baths, family room, living room, dining room, and kitchen, all adding up to just north of 1500 sf, with 600+ of that below ground and finished. Bills are reasonable, as are the taxes. Plenty of room for the missus and me, along with our daughter and two dogs. 8,000 people in this 'burg, and stable. My house was just shown to be worth right over 100k, not counting the hottub and landscaping work. Stand at my back fence and you can see the backyards of much nicer homes and wave at folks paying taxes on $400,000+ homes, which, in Kansas is palatial. My commute to work is sixteen blocks, all paved. Takes me four minutes if I catch a red light. Once told that you can't lose any investment with real estate. Saw a lot of people do that the past ten years. Live a block from a school, four blocks from groceries, and can walk a hundred yards from my back fence to a restaurant. The fire department can be here in less than three minutes, same for EMS. City water, and sewer, no well, no septic system. Sitting on one of the highest points in town, so let it rain, let it rain. And, with that, if I want to be in the country, it takes me two turns, and five minutes. Plenty of reasons to not like this town, but several more in its favor. No mountains to look at, but then again, I've had coyotes walk down my front street.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 20, 2015, 04:21 AM:
No offense taken LB.
Right now living in a totally wore out mobile home right around 700 sq.ft. But can't keep warm in it.
I see these million sq ft type homes in Boise and wonder how they can afford them heat them and pay taxes on them.
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 20, 2015, 05:48 AM:
Your family room is 800 sq ft.? My whole 3 br house is about 1400. I thought about going smaller, buying/building a 2 br out west when I retire.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 20, 2015, 06:20 AM:
Anyone else seen those micro-homes? Where you can lay in a very comfy bed and make coffee on the stove or watch the big screen at your feet? There is a house on my mail route that might be 500 sf. Probably a hundred years old. I know the guy that owns it - uses it for storage. Every time I go by it, I wonder how hard it would be to move it and redo the interior into a really nice cabin/home. Leave the outside looking like shit so no one will mess with it, but fix up the inside really nice. Just thinking out loud.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 20, 2015, 07:02 AM:
Many years ago, a family wedding in Chicago suburbs, Stickney, actually. They have what are called shotgun houses. Not sure how the joke goes, something like firing a round at the front door would kill anybody inside due to the narrow and long construction.
I remember coming in for a landing, the large number of pools down there. But they were all round Doughboys. Also met some real Pollocks, and Bohemians. As with most everything in that metropolitan area, parts of town are clearly divided along ethnic lines. But, Nanc was from LaGrange Park, (very nice) and her grandfather was Mayor for many years.
The high school I went to had around 2,000 students, and there were only four that had a "ski" at the end of their last names. I never did know much about Poles.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 20, 2015, 08:04 AM:
One of my grandfathers left Bohemia back in 1890's to come to America. Him and my grandmother always called it "the old country". I think it is the Czech republic or something like that now. Had 5 kids in a one bedroom house. My mother grew up in a 2 BR house, she had 5 brothers and a sister. Can't imagine doing that now.
Edited to add,
My best friends back in the 70's were Dagos, and Polacks. Bohunks, Italians and Polacks, some German Irish too, what a mix we were.
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Posted by DanS (Member # 316) on June 20, 2015, 08:16 AM:
I think a term used here was "cacker box" cookie cutter houses.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 20, 2015, 09:43 AM:
EW, 800 sq ft house. I can dig it, I've actually thought about that. If it were up to me an 800 sq ft house and a 1500 sq foot shop/garage would be perfect !!
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 20, 2015, 10:06 AM:
Oh' yeah. That's another thing country living. I have found some places on an acre surrounded by farm country, the wife doesn't like the houses though ?
I still like the house in New Plymouth. I hate the fog of southern Idaho winters for sure. It just doesn't appear to be in the cards to totally pull out of here. Payette county is more laid back and would provide relief from what Ada county has become (Boise) and what Canyon county is becoming.
Kinda like what Lance was saying about Abilene Ks. It's small there's a NAPA store, bar, steakhouse all within walking distance and of course the Pilgrim market
Probably the reason for hesitation @ this point is the neighborhood to be completely honest. I mean it's Ok, but there's some kinda weird areas behind the house. Hey, I'm laid back whatever. But, some guys can't mow their yard ? really ?
You have to park in the front lawn ? Then the place next door in these examples will be perfect. Go figure..
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 20, 2015, 10:08 AM:
The first house we bought was listed as a "cracker box" according to the realtor. That house is 130 years old now. Very simple design. Two bedrooms upstairs, two big rooms downstairs - the LR and the kitchen, with a staircase splitting the rooms right up the middle. Any steeper and our stairs would have been a ladder. At the time of construction, there were no indoor facilities, so the bath was an outhouse. Our house had an addition built on the backside with a laundry room and bathroom.
This house was old, but solidly built. Flat topped roof and the walls to the second floor bedrooms were slightly angled in to follow the roofline. Bigger versions of the same house all over town are proudly listed as being on the National Registry of Historic Homes. Ours wasn't. LOL
What is was, though, and another aspect of old homes is that they can be and sometimes are haunted. That word has negative connotations, but ours did have something or someone else living there, if you will. At night, when all was calm, you could hear footsteps going from the living room through the kitchen to the back mudroom area. If you were downstairs, you wouldn't hear anything. Yet, from the upstairs bedrooms, it was plain as day. Also, several days a week, while working in the basement, I would routinely hear heavy foot falls going up the stairs from the first to the second floors. You couldn't miss them, they were really very loud. Happened regular as clockwork. Had a buddy over one day when it happened. Freaked his shit out, LOL. We just grew to be used to them. My son woke up one night and watched the silhouettes of two guys having a shoving match on our front porch but no one was there. No sound. we routinely had light bulbs burn out and motion activated light switches were always lighting the place up at night. The abstract showed our house first owned by Joseph McCoy, founder of Abilene, deeded to him by the Territory of Kansas. Our yard was part of the cattle yards at the Chisholm Trail trailhead. Who knows who or what it is walking around in that house, but it was there, sure enough. Old houses are a hoot.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 20, 2015, 10:32 AM:
I believe ya Lance. We lived in a haunted duplex in Gresham Oregon, when I was a kid.
I don't know what happened there, but something was up. We stayed six months until the lease was up and got the hell out of there !!
We would come home and books would be scattered all over the place, refrigerator pulled out, one time my mom opened up a cubbard (sp) door and all the glasses came flying out. None broke though ?
We had an old heavy dresser drawer flip over once. My brother was a baby crawling around. It missed him though.
Not tryin' to get weird or anything, but super natural, haunted or whatever is real.
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Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 20, 2015, 06:00 PM:
That's enough for me! I'm staying the hell out of Oregon!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 21, 2015, 07:52 AM:
Ours was really never a problem for us, Dave. My daughter is a paranormal nut and she explained to us that what we had there was what is called a residual haunting - essentially a looped energy that repeats itself at the same time each day. if there is an "entity" there, it is theorized that they are not aware of us. If something happens like you describe, they call that an intelligent haunting where the "entity" can interact with real world people. I was a huge skeptic about ghosts, or whatever you call them, but living in that house showed me some things that were inexplicable. We tried our best to debunk them by looking bat settling, etc., but it was always the same time of day and in the same place. When we moved into our current home, the wife very quickly commented that this house felt different than then old one - that it didn't feel like someone else was there with you even when you were alone. The last thing I need is a ghost watching me sit on the crapper.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 21, 2015, 08:05 AM:
That's very interesting Lance. We were kinda thinking some kind of tremors or something were taking place under the property ?
Dad was out of town a lot, when Mom started hearing voices, all it ever said was hello as far as I know ? That was it, we pulled the plug and just paid another month's rent or 1/2 or something ? and left.
We moved to a house outside of Sandy, great area BTW..No more problems, weird shit for sure ?
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Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on June 21, 2015, 08:08 AM:
I often trade lunches with a real Mexican that I work with.
I'm pretty sure that I could sit on the crapper and drive a ghost out of the house.
"In the name of the green chili & bean burro......I banish thee !!!!!"
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 21, 2015, 08:11 AM:
Good one..
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 21, 2015, 09:00 AM:
Not calling bullshit on haunted houses...but I find occasional unnerving goings on, in wilderness. Spooky, sometimes.
This happened one dark and stormy night, lol. There we were, really overcast, new moon, pitch fucking dark and a light rain falling. Miles off the pavement, had been hunting, but about now, Pat was snoozing in the front seat and I was sitting on the tail gate. I mean, this literally was one of those times where you couldn't see your hand in front of your face!
So, there I was sitting there and started to hallucinate. I thought I saw ghosts, white forms and some movement, didn't freak me out, just a little curious because I had been up all night, and this is what happens when you are well into a second day of no sleep.
Anyway, to make a long story shorter, suddenly I damned near literally shit my pants when I was touched on the leg!
Maybe all these things have a logical explanation? This was a cow, (a black cow, with some white markings on the face) that might have been lost? She was walking up the road which we were blocking due to much overgrowth on the sides. I think she smelled me, maybe?
But, for a second, I damned near had a heart attack! Never forget that one!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 21, 2015, 09:28 AM:
Good one Leonard !!
I remember one time after working the last stand until it was to dark to see. I stumbled my way back and found my pickup.
Decided to unwind and have a beer. It seemed like a good idea to blow my howler and see if anything would answer. A few minutes later all I heard was a deep growl.. CLOSE BY !! I about shit, it was to dark to see anything.
Ah' good times !!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 21, 2015, 09:43 AM:
Oh yeah? Ever have a drunk indian fall against your arm out the drivers window? In the dark, while blowing a call? To be precise, a squaw. Neat way to meet friends.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 21, 2015, 10:06 AM:
Now that's a tough one to top !!
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 21, 2015, 01:49 PM:
That shit happens all the time. Next!
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 22, 2015, 06:24 AM:
My reloading room is 850 sq/ft.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 22, 2015, 08:43 AM:
ouch! I 'spose I deserve it?
Posted by Krustyklimber (Member # 72) on June 22, 2015, 09:32 AM:
The place I lived (*last week) was 825sq/ft. I frickin' LOVED it!
It helped, immensely, that there was a 1200sq/ft shop downstairs and it's no small comfort that I still have a key.
Yes, I'm moving again.
We had ghosts, at the little woman's mom's house.
One of the pieces of public land I called on in Virginia lies between two battlefields of the Civil War ...the woods there are fully haunted. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
HIJACK! I plan on trapping and/or calling 100 foxes this coming season.
Oh yeah, hey y'all!
Krusty
P.S. Yes Tim, I have every single one of those traps, in my possession and in excellent working order, still.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 22, 2015, 10:31 AM:
He monitors, regularly. Will be glad to know.
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on June 22, 2015, 02:42 PM:
If I remember right.
Micro houses are 500 sq.ft.
Small houses are under 1,000 sq. ft.
Micro is to small for me and my body I need room to relax and stretch out and I have to have my recliner.lol
Spent to many years in camp in travel trailers and other various buildings for summer work.
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on June 22, 2015, 04:19 PM:
Krusty,
We finally broke the century mark on coyotes this past season while working full time and meeting family obligations, rather than being off work and doing it as our "job". I will suggest that you either be in really good shape, or have good insurance. I was just released last week to full duty for work after recovering from the injuries I suffered from overuse during hunting season. No shit. Was not an easy feat, but we did it. 105.
Thursday night, I watched the first episode of Alone on History Channel. They're on north Vancouver Island and having a helluva time making fire with all the rain and wet. Thought about you in your old stomping grounds and wondered what you would have had to offer to the dialogue.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 24, 2015, 03:17 AM:
Spent 4yrs with my ex-girlfriend in a tiny cottage home, built in 1860. It was the size of a shoebox, 4 rooms. Kitchen & living room on 1st floor, with bed/bath up a tight spiral staircase on the 2nd.
Our landlord at the time was the town's Historical Society, and we had a long list of 'rules' to abide by to live there. We'd even have to play tour guide at our place, one weekend per year, during the Town's Historical House Tour.
That place kinda learned me about living in 'tight quarters'. Gimme a tiny home with a separate shop building for 'man shit', and I'll be smilin'!!!
Good luck shoppin'!!!
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on July 14, 2015, 06:19 PM:
Edit. Never mind I think it's going to be gone.
[ July 15, 2015, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 19, 2015, 05:57 PM:
I'm about ready to say screw it and find a chunk of ground. Anybody have a rough clue what a builder charges per sq ft for a semi-basic house ?
I almost hate to start calling around and get sucked up into things..Lol
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 20, 2015, 07:15 AM:
It's about like a custom rifle build. Next year. Or so?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Fur_n_Dirt (Member # 4467) on August 20, 2015, 10:52 AM:
We have friends in Tucson that built for around 120 to 130 sqft for semi custom..
Az is really not too bad.. My house hasn't gone through any acts of god which is doing pretty good considering other states!
LB, Dove mountain is nice
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 20, 2015, 12:19 PM:
Yes, Dove Mountain is very suitable for my needs. And, the affordability scale is there for just about any pocketbook if you don't need to live right on the fairway. I was really impressed with the bronze garage doors! As Arizona communities go, I have seen one or two others that almost compare. One is Oak Creek next to Sedona and the other is in Prescott Valley; but I keep coming back to Dove Mountain; has everything.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 20, 2015, 06:14 PM:
Good point Leonard. Fur thanks that's kinda the dollar amount I had in mind for some reason ?
Also thanks to everyone for listening to me yo-yo the last three months.
All, I know is we need to get out. Even if it means driving into this place to work, for awhile.
It's changing fast here.
Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on August 21, 2015, 05:08 AM:
Dave,
Construction costs here in the center of the country are just a bit, but not much, higher that what Fur is quoting.
They are currently building 10 houses in a new development here that are running around $140 to $150 per sq. ft. They are pretty vanilla, but have concrete board siding.
If you went with brick, you can count on somewhere around $200/ft. All of the houses here have full basements for a couple of reasons...tornadoes, and it doubles your square footage for about $30/ft.
Take it from someone that is in the middle of a 13 year renovation--BUILD IF YOU CAN!!!
I could have had the same size house for about 40% less money than what I have wrapped up in my current home. That is not to say I can't get my money out of my house, but I could have spent the last 6 years or so sitting on the back porch drinking a toddy rather than dreading what was next on the list to do/fix...
Good luck on your decision!
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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 22, 2015, 12:00 PM:
You're right, Tim. Code changes alone from when a house was built to now are enough to drive you crazy. I am lucky in that the lady I bought my house from dated a contractor who pretty much went all through this place and set things right. Not a big house (~1500 sq ft) and 40% of it is in the basement - all finished - which we like (cooler in the summer), and it's paid for. Paid 76,500 for it and the market value on it ten years later is right at $105k and all I've really done is paint, landscaping and shutters. Building a new addition right off my back fence. Three BR 2BA smaller homes (1500 sf) with unfinished basements and safe rooms going for right at $180k. Built from scratch with all modern amenities. Beautiful inside. No buyers for the two they've built because of the economy. They are a transition zone from highway commercial to the high end development to the NE of me where 5-6BR/ 3BA homes with 3000+sf are selling at upwards of $400,000. Some of those barns would go for $2 million in LB Land. Best part? All the luxuries of living in town (water/ sewer) and can still be in the country inside five minutes.
[ August 22, 2015, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 22, 2015, 02:25 PM:
Good for you Lance on getting your "crib" paid for.
Yeah I think a new ~1500 sq ft house here is about 180k also. No basement. You'll only find basements in older houses around here.
That's the thing. I ain't got too far to go too get mine paid off. Well here we are going to look @ a 200k place tonight. Gulp that's means more debt.
But, hey it has a finished basement !!
[ August 22, 2015, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]
Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 22, 2015, 02:45 PM:
I wouldn't own a house in Kansas, or anywhere in flyover country, without a basement or safe room. When I was single and it was only me, I chased storms. Now that I have "dependants", they make me nervous. Those Okies are friggin' nuts, with no basements and all.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on August 22, 2015, 03:16 PM:
Do most folks have metal roofs in your country ?
I would assume so ?
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 23, 2015, 02:17 AM:
Looks like you been cautioned on most everything . So I will add only that I love the drive thru garage door on the house on Elm as well as the green house and hoseable kennel.
Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 23, 2015, 06:08 AM:
What about those "manufactured" homes? Driving around areas, (not here), you learn to recognize the shape, sitting on a concrete slab, no wheels. I imagine they are built to mobile home specs.? I suppose there is still a lot you can do with a rectangular floor plan? I know they seemed to be a big deal up in Cor delane? I can never learn to spell that beautiful city?
Anyway, I think you can drop one on your own lot for less than $80,000?
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: come to think of it, Tim Behle's place in McNeal was a manufactured home, set on a big lot out in the flats. Plenty big enough.
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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 23, 2015, 06:27 AM:
"Do most folks have metal roofs in your country ?"
Actually, Dave, there are just now starting to be a few homes where those have been used. Three years ago, my town was hit by a hail storm that dropped softball sized hail for three minutes. Literally every roof in town was replaced. A few people went with the steel, smooth roofing panels that allow for snow to slide off. For them most part, every home has composite shingles.
Leonard, we have a manufactured home company in the area that builds houses in components and trucks it to your site. The entire house is built to site-built specs complete with 2x6 walls. Once they're on the foundation, you cannot tell them from a site built home. Not many slab homes around here, even for manufactured homes.
Kinda interesting how codes vary from place to place. We had a squall line pass through about midnight last night preceded by 80 mph straight line winds for most of fifteen minutes. Power was out for most of an hour. Thought the entire damned world was coming through the north window on my dining room, but only have limbs down. Lotsa tree damage around town, but didn't see any actual structural damage. Saw the same types of winds hit the upper midwest last year and had roofs torn off.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 23, 2015, 01:21 PM:
Yeah, this guy that owned the property we hunted in the St. Francis Hunt, one year. He had a manufactured home with a basement.
The basement was devoted, damned near the entire length, to (what else?) AR15's. Stacked upright, like at a gunshop. I couldn't guess how many, but will try: 25-30?
Good thing he didn't ask what I thought of his treasures. Oh well, everybody has a dream. ha This was in extreme central/eastern Colorado, practically throw a rock into Kansas.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 04, 2015, 09:57 AM:
Well, for those wringing their hands wondering what I've been up to. Lol time for an update I 'spose
Got my house listed @ the end of August, accepted an offer Wednesday. The buyers home inspector is coming tomorrow so if that all goes good, which I can't imagine any problems. I guess my house is sold. Never done this before.
Looked @ this crib yesterday. This is probably the one & going to make an offer today or tomorrow.
I need input from my friends.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Wilder-ID/pmf,pf_pt/72350412_zpid/15921_rid/2-_beds/1-_baths/43.723226,-116.689911,43.517435,-117.172623_rect/10_zm/?3col=true
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 04, 2015, 12:50 PM:
Fireplace ????
Looks nice even though it's on a small lot.
Questions to ponder;
(1) Can you sit on your patio and listen to your music without bothering your neighbors ??
(2) Can you pee off of your porch without bothering your neighbors ??
(3) Can you shoot off of your back deck without bothering your neighbors ??
Or..............Do you need to be further on down a dirt road ???
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 04, 2015, 02:07 PM:
Nope on the fireplace. There is a guy next door, but that's about it, as far as neighbors go.
So yes I think to everything else.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 04, 2015, 02:41 PM:
I'm amazed at how much house you can buy for $150,000! Said with total sincerity.
Now, some of you guys might know Tom Moore, who's house burned down probably four years ago in Poway, CA, not far from San Diego. He has/or had, I don't know if it's sold or not, 17 acres and the rebuilt house was right at 7,000 sq. ft. I'm sure it's worth millions. Anyway, he bought a place in Idaho and might be moved by now? I think he said it was Meridian? Comes with a lot of water rights for, I think he said $900,000? Said the house was nothing special, but that might be by Poway standards?
But, for the rest of us, I just bought a very ordinary house in Yucca Valley about three months ago for $100,000. Been spending a lot of time up there, but have no plans to up and move, at this time. Still wish Dove Mountain would materialize in the not too distant future.
Looks like a good deal, Dave
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 05, 2015, 07:24 AM:
For me, no fireplace or at least a wood stove would be a deal-breaker. I don't have all that much faith in global warming.
FWIW; When you get ready to move, before you spend a lot of coin on moving boxes, stop in a Wally-World Supercenter about two o'clock in the morning. The stockers in housewares usually have decent boxes that they will gladly give you.
Good luck............and NEVER label a box `Misc.`
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on October 05, 2015, 07:59 AM:
Nice looking house.
We looked at Wilder and all other points in between. But couldn't live down there solid fog in the winters and solid skeeters in the summers. Good luck Dave A.
LB. That's the problem with the housing market. You're surprised at the cost of houses and how much you can buy up here. For the most part 150k houses are first time starter houses and usually need another 50k to get it up to par.
Got a nice house coming up for sale across the road from me. Custom built (being rebuilt now due to over use of wood stove burned 1/4 of house last New Years eve). Neighbor says it's worth 300k, sits on 3 acres on the Payette River. No yard no fences, drive way sucks over grown with trees and brush. I wouldn't give hime 150k for it.
Glad I'm out of the house buying now. Just need to move and transfer to a job at the new house.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on October 05, 2015, 12:15 PM:
What's the water situation? Well I assume? How busy is hwy 95 going past your house?
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 05, 2015, 12:40 PM:
Yeah that's my biggest concern is the hwy. I can sorta' hear it in the house with no tv on.
Out back when outside ain't bad. Probably get used to it ?
Well is on property and shared with the neighbor, new pump was installed last year, septic was replaced six years ago.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 05, 2015, 12:45 PM:
Do you have an extra room?
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 05, 2015, 02:53 PM:
Sure..
Thanks Koko, no shortage of boxes where I work.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on October 06, 2015, 06:50 AM:
Another brick to throw at the stupid residents of The People's Republik: no fireplaces!
I think I have this right. No new homes to be built with a fireplace. Some kind of bullshit environmental issue?
But, as I have mentioned before up where my brother lives in Tumwater, close to Olympia. They have "NO BURN DAYS". They get an inversion layer that keeps wood smoke from rising up into the wild blue yonder and apparently, it's hard on the lungs for those living in GOD'S COUNTRY. (that's his opinion) Me? You couldn't pay me to live in the Suicide Capital of America. My sister-in-law, (the Bitch) gets sunshine therapy, some kind of light bulb? What ever blows your skirt up?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on October 06, 2015, 05:23 PM:
Boise has no burn days or the Boise Valley does too. In the winter. We now get inversions winter and summer being fire/smoke.
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 07, 2015, 06:37 AM:
Ain't that the truth. ^^
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 23, 2015, 06:42 AM:
Well looks like we came full circle lol. Remember early in this thread the talk of New Plymouth ?
Yep ya'll guessed it. I bought this one cuzz it sorta has a fireplace..Koko and it's on a quite road.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3800-SW-1st-Ave-New-Plymouth-ID-83655/96905808_zpid/
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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on October 23, 2015, 07:06 AM:
Neat house, Dave!
Looks like you have some area for a nice shooting range, too!
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 23, 2015, 08:11 AM:
Thanks Tim. Yeah got a little elbow room. I'm thinking about renting one of those Pod deals.
Now gotta figure out the moving thing. I'm getting old with a crappy back. Good times !
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on October 23, 2015, 01:10 PM:
You'll really appreciate that fireplace sorta thing on a quiet road when you're relaxing in the evening with a beverage of choice.
Posted by Lonny (Member # 19) on October 23, 2015, 03:35 PM:
Nice place Dave.
Quiet is good. I was at a co-workers house who lives right along highway 12 on the Clearwater River here in ID. Really nice place, but I couldn't believe how loud the highway was in the canyon... It would be a deal breaker for me.
Hire a coupla or 3 teenage boys to load that heavy stuff and you supervise. I hired a couple of my oldest boys friends when we moved a few years ago and paid them in pizza and bricks of .22 rimfire ammo.
Rent the biggest damn U-Haul truck you can find. We did when we moved, and even the kids said that it would have taken a 100 loads in the pickup to get moved. At that, it still took 3 big loads in the U-Haul. It sure was nice loading stuff on that truck.
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on October 23, 2015, 03:39 PM:
Nice house Dave! Id come help ya move...but you know...It's hunting season and all.
Mark
Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on October 24, 2015, 06:35 AM:
Yeah whatever Mark..Lol
Good advice Lonny, that's kinda what I was thinkin'
I'll tell ya what though. I'm ready to get the hell out of Nampa though.
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