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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 07, 2015, 06:57 AM:

Y'all staying attached to the ground okay?

Talked to a couple people this morning that had close calls, but so far, everybody is whole.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 07, 2015, 07:29 AM:

Not to worry, they routinely walk around with rocks in their pockets. Or in Kelly's case, gold doubloons.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on May 07, 2015, 07:57 AM:

Still here. A few broken limbs in the yard this morning. They are already calling for bad storms come Saturday.

thanks for asking Dave.

The folks north of me towards OKC are having some trouble for sure. We still need rain for our lakes down here, but can do without the hail and nadders....but this time of year it all goes hand in hand around here.
kj

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on May 07, 2015, 08:11 AM:

Yep, the Okies have sure had their share.

I think we had 14 or 15 confirmed tornadoes last evening here in Kansas. The largest storm with the most sightings ended up going between Lance and I last night.

The only thing I hate more than ticks and snakes are tornadoes.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 07, 2015, 08:13 AM:

Glad to hear it!

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 07, 2015, 09:17 AM:

It's not a joking matter and I don't mean to make light of the situation.

I do notice that the people that live with the threat of tornados can be very calm, and at the same time freak out about CA earthquakes. And, earthquakes are something I am very calm about, weird, huh?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 07, 2015, 10:22 AM:

Never been right in a tornado, but have been pretty close. Seen a few, put it that way. Two in Oklahoma, but, strangely enough, I was only a few blocks away, right on the edge of the only "killer" tornado I know of, to come through Salt Lake. Killed some poor bastard in a parking lot kiosk only five blocks from where I was driving at that moment. Was actually driving towards it, to get a better look! Yeah, dumbass...

I live on a major fault line and have felt half a dozen small earthquakes. Kind of freaky, to me? And these were all quite small, never felt a "big one".

- DAA

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on May 07, 2015, 11:21 AM:

I have seen more than I care to living right here in the 'Alley'. In 53 years, I have only been through one.

Huddled in a basement of a church across the street from the bank with 30 of my co-workers in 2004. The tail of the 'funnel cloud' danced about 50' or so over the top of the bank.

The downdraft stripped 20' locust trees from top to bottom and tumbled a 15' limb section 8" in diameter like a piece of straw for about 2 blocks. I can't imagine the damage it would have done if it had been on the ground.

FYI, if it is not on the ground, the proper term is a funnel cloud...only a tornado if it makes it all the way to the ground.

You all might have heard about the earthquakes in Southern Kansas and Northern Oklahoma. They have done some damage down in the areas where they have discoverd a new oil play.

Last fall, one of the aftershocks could be felt here where I live which is about 150 miles or so from the epicenter. Felt and sounded like a big truck going by at a good speed on the street outside.

In fact, thought that is what it was until they reported what it actually was later in the day.

[ May 07, 2015, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: booger ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 07, 2015, 01:49 PM:

I heard on the news while driving up. Damn, so much commuting I should be looking at a used Prius. (that's a joke)

Getting back to the news/they said a tornado hit a trailer park just outside of Oklahoma City.

Man, if I EVER decided to live in Oklahoma, the very last place would be a mobile home! That seems damned near suicidal?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 07, 2015, 02:33 PM:

We actually had more earthquakes this year than Kalifornia did. Tornadoes, snakes, ticks and chiggers and now earthquakes.

On another note, in Tuttle they have a zoo or animal park that was hit and they had lions, tigers and bears, oh dear, roaming loose.

Only in Okieland!

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 07, 2015, 02:36 PM:

Oh and we're alright. I drove through Kelly's area yesterday and on up to Chickasha where it started but left way too soon. The wife and youngest daughter were in Norman and got out as they were blowing the sirens. The wife was a little nervous when she got home.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 07, 2015, 03:32 PM:

Good! Glad to hear from ya!

- DAA

Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on May 07, 2015, 03:50 PM:

Glad all is well. I did notice while in OK that asphalt shingles are not as popular as they are here, and on the homes that have them, they look pretty new. Stay safe fellas.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 07, 2015, 04:31 PM:

Shingles. Who knows the answers? Shake shingle (cedar) used to be very popular in SoCal, but the fire hazard is significant. All the people that die in their beds in the middle of the night during an earthquake have their heads bashed in by tile or cement shingles.

The lady across the street spent a fortune on aluminum shingles. A fireman friend told me they were like a deathtrap because they had a hard time chopping holes in them to vent the roof with an axe.

Fibreglass? Tell you the truth, I have no idea?

But tile, you can't walk on for risk of cracking and then it's a pain in the ass to pull a bad one, if you can match it?

I have regular composition shingles. Haven't had a single one damaged or blown off and the roof is at least twelve years old. And, I think it's possibly the cheapest way to go? They scrunch them up to appear more texture, doesn't look flat and plain. I dunno? <shrug>

Anybody?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on May 07, 2015, 04:59 PM:

nothing but rain here, not as much as some places but I think we are up to around 4 inches in the last week or so, finally got some run off to fill the ponds and tanks. I got 140 head of heifers in the pens that ship in the morning and its getting real hard to get in and out to feed them.

kj, I saw where they are saying everyone on the right side of 35 better screw their hats down tight, might even need a hard hat

Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on May 07, 2015, 07:21 PM:

Yesterday provided 'naders, earthquakes, 80plus mph winds and flooding. The highlight of the day was the Tuttle Tiger safari taking a direct hit and freeing all the inhabitants. Caught them all before anyone could 'claim' a rug.

Maintain

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 08, 2015, 03:12 AM:

Think we got just about all of 'em accounted for? [Big Grin]

- DAA

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on May 08, 2015, 03:31 AM:

'tis the season I worry for all my Okie peeps!

Hope this thread continues on with nothing but safe reports! That goes for the Kansans, Nebraskans, Missourians & anyone else who could be affected...

Stay safe, dudes!!!

Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on May 08, 2015, 05:49 AM:

after re-roofing a few times, I put a metal roof year before last. Hope to miss a real test on this roof...
Last spring was over at a buds house one May evening and got 10K damage to my truck. The old truck at the house 6 miles away didn't get a dent.

Trapper yes this afternoon and tomorrow they are expecting a major outbreak.
Hell I lost power after work yesterday for a couple of hours from another wind storm.
Sure is life, but I'll admit I am a little on edge about what Saturday afternoon and evening has planned for us.
Be prepared and have a plan wherever you are.
kj

Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on May 08, 2015, 06:49 AM:

yep they are saying saterday could be a hum dinger, we got 1.7 rain last night, made loading cattle a lot of fun this morning, but they are gone before the next one which is good.

those metal roofs are a real good deal the way people talk, I know the guys that have had them for a while really like them.

Kelly, talking about having a plan, the knife shop is in the fraidie hole so we just go make knives but e have had so much rain its got about a foot of water in it so no power tools, guess i'll just make snares

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 08, 2015, 07:16 AM:

Life in Oklahoma is interesting.

I'll still never get over attempting to pass through Oklahoma City on 40 or is it 44? I'm sure the locals can read the signs, but I have never made it through town without corrections. My conclusion=It can't be done!

I'm also mystified over all the turtle roadkills? And, tolls; what's with that?

All I have to deal with is friggin' Liberals. Lucky me.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on May 08, 2015, 08:20 AM:

quote:
And, tolls; what's with that

LOL....I remember several years ago heading out to the camp out and Criner was riding with me. I pulled in to pay the first toll and Steve asked what was going on. I told him it was a toll road, and his exact quote was "you mean to tell me you have to pay to drive on THESE roads". Interesting perspective from someone outside the state...sadly they are some of our better roads.....lol.

Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on May 08, 2015, 04:12 PM:

Glad you guys came through it all okay.

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 08, 2015, 05:16 PM:

I'm with Nick. Glad you guys are good.

Hope the weekend doesn't turn out bad.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 10, 2015, 10:40 AM:

From what I heard while not paying too much attention; it was Texas that got hit, I think?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 10, 2015, 01:03 PM:

We were hit Wednesday and a few smaller tornadoes Thursday and Friday but Saturday was pretty calm here except for the rain. Texas got hit with a few but the rain here cooled the atmosphere enough to deflate the risks of tornadoes. We've had over 10" since Wednesday. Lots of roads and highways flooded, trees uprooted and more called for this week.
Highway 270 going into McAlester.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 10, 2015, 01:33 PM:

10" is a chit load of rain...

We got 1" at my house, overnight about a week ago, that's darn near as much as we ever get in one shot. And not every year we get even that much at once.

Been a pretty wet, cool spring so far though. Following a record setting dry, warm winter.

I just want it to warm up enough to get some tomatoes planted. Going to be at least a couple more months before I get a decent tomato!

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 10, 2015, 04:21 PM:

You need to move to The People's Republik, Dave. We have tomatoes in the ground since six weeks ago. The farmers already had the first harvest of strawberries.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 11, 2015, 02:43 AM:

I know that an oil pipeline is bad, 'cause o bama said so but could somebody 'splain to me why some of that floodwater couldn't be piped out this way ?? We have empty reservoirs that could take every drop you might care to send.

[Confused]

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 11, 2015, 04:24 AM:

That's actually a good idea except those that build the pipeline never want to turn off the faucet.

Oklahoma City has a pipeline running to Atoka lake among other water sources. Right now there's several legal battles over who actually owns the water in our state. OKC will pump Atoka lake down to a mud hole every year.

What most don't know is the injuns own most all water rights in the state.

Water is quickly becoming the new oil.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 11, 2015, 07:30 AM:

This picture appeared on Facebook after being captured by an Ellis, Kansas photographer near Grinnell, in western Kansas.

Other than the filtering used to get the color scheme, this is supposedly unaltered, although the debris cloud at the ground doesn't look right to me. Never seen on that looks like an explosion. Rather, the dust and debris are uniform around the base of the vortex.

Anyway, this pic just screams "Oz!!!" to me.

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on May 11, 2015, 07:38 AM:

quote:
could somebody 'splain to me why some of that floodwater couldn't be piped out this way ??

cost is probably the primary hurdle. And as Tom mentioned, water laws and who owns how much of it would be the next battle.
We had 10" of snow, after a few inches of rain. We've had over half of our annual rain fall in just the last week alone around here.
When I texted a buddy of mine in S.W. KS. to see if their ponds were filling, he texted back, "They're gaining, probably got 2" or 3" in the bottom of them now." [Eek!]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 11, 2015, 08:37 AM:

Hell, I always thought oil was the new water?

Water politics have always been big-big-big, around here.

And, yeah, court battles galore over who owns what - including what falls from the sky. Know some people live at the south end of the valley, keep horses, not allowed to drill a well. Thought they would at least catch what run off they could off their roofs. Ahhhh nope! City, or county, or whoever it is that owns that water shut them down on even that, real quick!

There basically ain't a drop of water within many hundreds of miles of here that somebody won't sue somebody else over if they try to collect or use it in any way. That includes rain catchment, ground water, run off, snow pack, all of it.

Next big battleground is the aquifers. Lawyers already lined up by the hundreds for that one. And I'm an interested party. Have a well that supplies all our water on our place in Nevada and if those Vegas Vultures get their way, they are fixing to stick a giant straw in that aquifer and chances are it won't take too many years before they lower it a good bit. Ranchers in Snake Valley in Utah depend on that water too.

Fortunately, when we had that well drilled, our driller, who lives only a few miles from our place, advised going an extra 100 feet deeper than we really needed to. Drilling caliche, those are some mighty damn e$pen$ive hundred feet... But, he convinced us that for one, the water tasted better at the lower level - and he is right, that well has the best tasting water I've ever had. And for two, and this was years ago, but he was already worried about at that time, California Commies sticking their dicks in that aquifer.

As it turns out, California has mostly had it's ass kicked in court over that water, by the Vegas Vultures, who now seem almost certain to get their dicks up our ass.

They've got the money, so they're going to win. Not any question or doubt about it. Just a matter of time. You only get as much Justice as you can afford in this country and they can afford a helluva lot more Justice than the rural folks can.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 11, 2015, 10:55 AM:

I have seen evidence of massive drilling in central Nevada going back 3 to 5 years and increasing. That big development north of Vegas on 93 seems pretty lush?

Well, they have exhausted all their Lake Mead water rights and if they intend to keep blowing up perfectly good casinos just to build bigger and more luxurious ones, and expanding the bed capacity of the city, they need to steal the water from somewhere?

Make no mistake, there is a huge aquifer under northern and central Nevada. I don't know if it's part of the Oglala, but that one is systematically and steadily being drained for decades. It could be many more decades to replenish, but that's pretty much a joke.

California has a huge problem and it's seriously exacerbated if not directly caused by environmentalists and insane Democrat policies. I was listening to a chat show the other day claiming that trillions of gallons of water is used in the central valley to grow almonds for export to China, and alfalfa, for export to the Saudi's to feed their racing and show camels.

Then too, there is the shameful discharge out under Golden Gate to protect the Sacramento fucking smelt! Apparently, they only caught ONE fish last year, and that is trillions of gallons, all approved by Babs Boxer and Fairy Jerry. Who said their priorities were out of whack? Just force the citizens to take shorter showers and let their lawns die. If there is ANYTHING Liberals love to do, it's force citizens to do what they want. GODDAMNED CONTROL FREAKS !

Good hunting. El Bee

[ May 11, 2015, 10:59 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 11, 2015, 11:25 AM:

So...................rather than reduce flooding in the southern states by creating jobs building and maintaining a pipeline to the drought stricken west they would rather have a pissing contest over who owns the rainwater.

Who was it that said "First we need to shoot all of the lawyers" ??

[Confused]

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 11, 2015, 11:28 AM:

BTW; Cool picture, CDude !!!

I would suggest the title 'America After o bama' but somebody might claim that I was racist.

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on May 11, 2015, 05:08 PM:

Leonard's right about the northern Nevada aquifer. A farmer came up from Orovada last week to get parts. I asked him about this very subject.

He said some guys came sniffing around about 5 years ago. Now bear with me my heads a little fuzzy from a procedure today. They offered 10k up front non-refundable and a balloon payment in 10 years of either 50 or 100k I can't remember right now.

Anyway he passed and sounded like most maybe all locals did the same. Sounded to sketchy..

However the question begs after a couple tough crop years and somebody comes along with deeper pockets, who knows ?

[ May 11, 2015, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Dave Allen ]

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on May 12, 2015, 05:45 AM:

much as Dave described is how it is here in CO. also. You so much as catch water from your roof, capture your grey water and re-use, or build a dam of any size without pre-approval, and the wrong people find out about it, they will be comin and a knock-in on your door.
A guy in one of the Denver suburbs got caught a couple years ago. His grass was greener than any of his neighbors. At first, no one caught on because he was seen hand watering, which was allowable at the time. But it turns out the water he was using was grey water that he was capturing then pumping through the garden hose. Turns out, he, like most city dwellers, pay to use the water ONCE, not twice. Once you use the water, down the drain and to the city it goes. He was using it twice, which is a no no around here.
The county I live in has started a study to see just how quickly the aquifers under us are depleting. I know it is, because at my old house, we ran out of water and had to lower our pump another 150 feet. One of the problems around here is that folks move to the country to a place on a well all of a sudden believe that they can use all the water they want to because they know longer have a water bill to remind them of water usage. I see dumb shits watering gardens and lawns at all hours of the day, like there is know tomorrow.
A little factoid here, Colo. is one of only two states that has zero inflowing water source. All waters that flow in this state, are leaving and many states around us have rights to that water.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 12, 2015, 09:28 AM:

This guy in Denver suburbs; I am betting his neighbors doing the spying are Liberals?

Hell, ain't Denver only one point below NYC on the Liberal meter? Aspen; do they even have a booth for Republican voters?

Everyone dumps on The People's Republik, but it's coming to a town near you!

"Isn't it about time we had a female President"? Isn't it about time another Democrat drove the whole country deeper into the ditch?

And, they just don't get it!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on May 13, 2015, 12:20 PM:

Hey Leonard remember the Sylmar quake? I was 13 there bouts it threw me out of my bed. Grizz

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 13, 2015, 07:59 PM:

Welcome to the New HuntmastersBBS.com, Grizz. Glad to have you on board.

Actually, I have known "Grizz" for quite a few years. Former CSVCA club member.

Yeah, that quake was a good one, woke up both me and the wife, neither of us said anything, or even got out of bed; but (you bet) it was a real good one!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on May 15, 2015, 09:59 PM:

Thanks Leonard.

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 24, 2015, 05:53 AM:

More tornadoes last night, one just east of me a few miles but the big concern now is flooding. Highways and roads are being shut down all over. I live on a hill so I'm ok. Still I thought this fitting.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 24, 2015, 07:11 AM:

[Big Grin]

- DAA

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on May 24, 2015, 09:21 AM:

Tornadoes, flooding and daily quakes. Keep yourself on the high ground until you need to dig a hole, Kelly. All this rain has finally gotten us out of the severe drought category.

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on May 24, 2015, 09:27 AM:

Send it to California....we are blowing away in the wind.
Mark

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on May 26, 2015, 05:35 AM:

what a May, huh? Around my parts we've had 22 days of the 25 under average temps. and I don't think we've had more than 2 or 3 days that we didn't get measurable rain.
Hope all's well with everyone down in Okie land and TX. Sounds really bad down that way.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 26, 2015, 06:54 AM:

Actually, we need equity, fairness, etc. Barry wants to do something about this GLOBAL WA...I mean "Climate Change". About time he got started stopping the ocean's rise and all that inclement weather, especially for those folks in Oklahoma. It's such a small state! Texas can take care of itself. Equity. Give back. Texas don't need that pan handle, Obama can easily sign an executive order turning it over to Oklahoma. Texas needs to do their "fair share", it's the right thing to do!

'course, maybe they don't want it? I dunno? But some peeps here are busy trying to split Kalifornia into six states; which I AM ALL FOR ! Never happen, but / hey, Obama can help with that, he has a pen, and he has a phone!

Don't mind me, my babysitter left the room.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 26, 2015, 09:17 AM:

Have you ever seen the Texas panhandle? It's like God ran out of ideas.

We've beat our most rain ever in a month by 5" this month alone and another week of rain forecast.

Our wheat crop is doomed, first hay cutting is gone, we're so slow at work I'd stay home but I'm bored after a 3 day weekend of watching it rain.

We've had enough.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 26, 2015, 02:24 PM:

Yeah, but. We have to take short showers, (you know) like on a submarine, get wet, soap down, quick rinse, etc. This will allow Fairy Jerry to save that last Delta Smelt. I get those warm fuzzies when Democrats have an issue they can enforce, so what if it's a measly $500 a day fine.

Next, they are going to force everybody to go solar, even if they have to impose stiff fines...be still, my beating heart! I love it when people can put aside their differences and support mandatory enviro shit.

But, getting back to all that water. The People's Republik has severe drought, while Texas and Oklahoma enjoy lots of precipitation. Hey Barry! Do something about all this unfairness!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on May 27, 2015, 05:51 AM:

first trip to the cellar for a tornado in five yrs, but had to go twice last night, spent a hour making snares to pass the time waiting for it to pass, got 2.1 inches here and over 5 inches north 10 miles, all the creeks are flooded and roads washed out.

[ May 27, 2015, 05:52 AM: Message edited by: trapper2 ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 27, 2015, 05:56 AM:

Man... That is a LOT of water...

Glad you're okay!

We've had a real wet May, for us, and I've been complaining about it, like if I wanted rain every day I'd move to Portland, put on a flannel shirt and start thinking about suicide. But nothing, absolutely nothing, compared to what you guys are getting hit with.

I should stop complaining...

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 27, 2015, 06:18 AM:

Portland? I think Seattle is numba one; in granola, Lefty's, suicides, depression and 180 straight days of RAIN! If there is a city I am least likely to move to, it's Seattle followed by Bagdad, Havana and Moscow. For different reasons, in the case of Bagdad, but politically, Seattle/Moscow es MUY SIMPATICO.

Sunshine therapy is really big in Seattle. Not as big as firearm suicides, but still really big. Don't go there.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on May 27, 2015, 06:43 AM:

I aint complaining, like a guy told me once, never seen a flood last as long as a drought.

took 8 yrs for some of these lakes to go almost dry and a week for God to fill them back up, I heard guys say altus would never fill back up but it sure has

[ May 27, 2015, 06:45 AM: Message edited by: trapper2 ]

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 27, 2015, 07:20 AM:

Seattle may be #1 but Portland is a close second. Want communist propaganda? Go to the Pearl District. They're handing it out on the street corners.

BTW, who is Grizz? Former member of the CSVCA? Me, too.

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 27, 2015, 07:30 AM:

Portland/Seattle. I can't separate of differentiate. Same place, to me?

But, add the Salt Lake Valley, to the list. Lately. In the every day rain category anyway.

Guess we needed the water too. Not that I care. I pay $10 a month for unmetered water.

Yes, I see how open that statement leaves me to misinterpretation and attack. But, really, $10 a month, no meter. Haven't actually watered my lawn or garden once yet this year and am a good conservator, watering wisely when needed. But, California can dry up and blow the fuck away into the sea, for all I care? As long as Leonard is allowed to sell his property and leave first, of course. My grass is green. My water is plentiful and cheap.

- DAA

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 27, 2015, 07:44 AM:

P.S...

Add Mark to the sell and escape list.

Anyone else that shouldn't be compelled to go down with the ship?

- DAA

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on May 27, 2015, 11:30 AM:

muthafuckas be painting their lawns green in CA...

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 27, 2015, 03:20 PM:

Since this is "The People's Republic", first of all, Fairy Jerry should be providing it free of charge just like as if all homeowners were poor black Democrats.

Second, there should be several realistic "shades" of dollar bill green, Geiko green, mint green, lush emerald green, etc. You get the idea. No way should I have to paint my lawn the exact same color as that jerk next door!

Keep us posted Fred, don't know what we'd do without you?

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 27, 2015, 04:35 PM:

I needed to go to Dallas one day this week so after watching the weather channel, I picked today. Cloudy but no rain today, rain tomorrow and Friday. Got a late start but loaded the truck and it started pooring. Looked on radar and one single storm was hovering over our town. Clear all the way to Dallas so I headed out at 11:15

Got 20 miles south and clear as a bell. Wife said it rained all day and at 3:00 I checked radar and saw the same storm still over my town. I ran into rain about the same place I ran out of it this morning. It was clearing up when I rolled into town but they said the lake below my house was 3' over the road again today.

More rain expected...

Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on May 27, 2015, 08:51 PM:

A bit over 9" of rain in the past 8 days here & over 36" over the past 60 days. I have a pair of Roadrunners that have almost moved into my garage, honest! They look at themselves in the mirrors of my trucks, come on both porch's & peck on the windows, etc. Im going Striper Fishing if it ever stops raining.

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on May 28, 2015, 04:26 AM:

If it doesn't stop, you could fish off your porch.

Posted by Eddie (Member # 4324) on May 28, 2015, 06:04 AM:

You guys are lucky, Pawnee lake is still 12 feet below normal and the lake I get water from is 15 feet below normal. We've been water rationing for 2 years now here in Pawnee county. The ponds are filling up now so maybe we can get some run off into the lakes now. I seen on the news where some guy over south and west of me caught a big carp is his front yard.

Posted by Grizz (Member # 4626) on May 28, 2015, 06:38 AM:

Moe Grizz here.
I was a member of Coast Chapter CSVCA from 1980 until the CSVCA folded in the late 1990s. I served as State Association President in 1994 and 95. Not certain that I know you, knowing your real name would help. I guess this site doe not offer the PM option. Anyway I'm off for four glorious days of fishing up in the Eastern Sierras. Regards, Rick Jahahn. Hey Leonard!

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 28, 2015, 06:39 AM:

If they don't get this GLOBAL WARMING shit straightened out, this is the last time I'm voting for a Democrat! It can't be that hard?

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on May 28, 2015, 07:57 AM:

Yeah, well wait 'til Gov. Moonbeam figures out how to tax the water evaporation from your pool.

C'mon.......you know it's coming; kind of a BOHICA thing.

[Eek!]

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on May 28, 2015, 08:35 AM:

$165.00 fine if they catch you filling your pool in my area, which nobody cares about cause its hot! Ill pay that.
Studies on the other hand, say that having a pool SAVES water, over keeping a backyard full of grass alive.
Mark

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on May 28, 2015, 09:31 AM:

Lone Howl, are you sure you have that right?

I know they said something about, if you drain your pool, you cannot fill it up again? And, I think, if you have a pool built, you cannot fill it, which makes zero sense?

But, maintaining the water level? They cannot be serious?

What I have been hearing is they want a total reduction, however you decide to accomplish it? Maybe you decide to only flush on #2, or only shower on Saturday nite.

This dictatorial bullshit is becoming annoying.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ May 28, 2015, 09:32 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on May 28, 2015, 09:53 AM:

Man... You guys deserve a break.

Had some minor flooding a few blocks from my house this morning. Just a few basements getting wet, from what I saw. Hardest rain I think I've ever seen at our house in the ten years we've lived here this morning. Not a big deal. Fun to drive through.

But if I'm getting sick and tired of the rain, and I am, I can't imagine how tired of it you guys must be getting by now.

The fishing comments reminded me of the last real flood we had in these parts, in '83. Some friends and I got ourselves on the TV news, catching fish in the middle of the street in downtown Salt Lake City. The streets turned into big enough rivers, long enough, they actually built temporary bridges over them so people could get around from one side of town to the other.

- DAA

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on May 28, 2015, 11:05 AM:

Hmmm..Probly wrong? Maybe some clever dis-information being spread around?
Will have to verify.
Mark

Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on May 28, 2015, 12:19 PM:

Our drinking water lake was at 26% capacity. Now at alittle off 100%.
I am still con-ser-vat-ing....went outside to pee in the rain the last two evenings...

edit to add no complaints here. Its nothing short of a miracle. Rain and work has sure cut down on me running the dogs this spring. I got 3 I need to be working. Maybe it will dry a bit in June.

[ May 28, 2015, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: Kelly Jackson ]

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on May 29, 2015, 06:07 AM:

You kalifornikans need to start pissin' in your sink, instead of that toilet bowl. Its for your own good!

Cat Daddy, quit making excuses! Get them pups suited up proper, and get after it!!!

Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on May 29, 2015, 06:52 AM:

Grizz.....No, you don't know me. I left California and the CSVCA for Alaska in 1974. Except for a stint working in SE Asia in 1967 and part of '68 I was a very active member of the CVCA as it was called then.

Over the years I had occasion tot talk to Don Carper from Cole's in Inglewood but I really didn't keep abreast with the club after I left. Carper and some friends used to fly up to Juneau in a private plane each summer to fish.

I was in the eastern Sierra fishing a couple of weeks ago. I hope you have better luck than we did. Too windy and cold on the high lakes and the streams were fished out from the opening weekend hoards. There wasn't going to be another stocking until after we left. When we got home we went to a lake up in the coast range here and caught a bunch. We fly fish and catch and release.

Last Spring we hit it just right in California. We caught fish almost everywhere. Some nice browns, too.

[ May 29, 2015, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: Moe ]

Posted by trapper2 (Member # 3651) on May 31, 2015, 05:59 AM:

hey kelly, talking about dogs I got one I will give some one if they want it, I got to many and some one on one and I don't have the time, 8 month old female

Posted by Kelly Jackson (Member # 977) on June 01, 2015, 12:03 PM:

Ryan - I'm dog poor, but will ask around.
kj

Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on June 01, 2015, 12:41 PM:

Sure makes me appreciate having my own well. Ive had water running 24/7 the last month or so, keeping trees and surrounding grass alive until we start to get our summer rain cycle.
I read with amazement about Daves' situation in Utah, concerning no rain water harvesting and the associated fines/penalties....blows my mind?
I had just read that doing just that, is what saved Australia's' bacon during their 13 year drought, now it is mandatory to have any new housing deveopments provide for rain water harvesting....what the fuck is wrong with our system and politics that they do not see the advantage?

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on June 01, 2015, 12:54 PM:

Water laws around here are just nucking futts. Someone has rights to the water that runs off each and every house roof that exits. Don't ask me how that can be, but it's how the laws are written.
Capture that "run off" and you're breaking the law.

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on June 01, 2015, 01:01 PM:

We went right from famine to feast here in Central Kansas…basically Ma Nature has wiped out our drought situation in about 6 weeks. We have had close to 25” of rain at my house since April 11th, after having only had 16 inches of rain in all of 2014. The mosquitoes at my house are damn near as big as the robins… [Smile]

The town where I live only uses about 30% of its annual allocation of water, while my hometown of Russell, Kansas, just 35 miles north of my house, is on severe water restrictions.

My farmers that irrigate have indicated that their wells are up about 18” over last year. The only issue now is that the crops are drowning, and it is getting to the critical point of not being able to get some of their fall crops planted.

As far as water laws go, I can't imagine what is going to happen if the EPA gets their way and starts regulating water in ditches, etc., the way they want.

[ June 01, 2015, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: booger ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 01, 2015, 01:39 PM:

I'm too lazy to look it up but. Seems like a few years ago, they were all advocating cisterns under all gutters and using it to water plants, etc? I'm pretty sure they would do it, totally ignorant of laws that forbid the practice.

As to the control of runoff and groundwater, tell you what, that stuff is arcane and mysterious. We have here locally the San Antonio water district, and it's only apparent claim to fame is that they own a ditch, arroyo, or what the hell you want to call it, a catchment basin that does a very good job of collecting and percolating all surface water for miles around.

Then, the city of Upland, one of several, charges residents based on usage. Nothing revolutionary there, but as we water the grass, that water gravitates to city pumps which collects it recycled, in storage for the next time. I just got my bill a couple days ago and although I don't remember the amount, I did notice that they are telling me I should only water on Tuesdays and Thursdays... and any day that starts with "T", except tomorrow.

Getting back to the San Antonio Water District. This area used to be agricultural, almost exclusively citrus groves. The system was set up well over a hundred years ago and basically, it takes advantage of snow melt. I'm just thinking that whoever is SAWD has been making a comfortable living for several generations and I suspect hardly anyone knows who exactly profits from that astute purchase?

The move, "Chinatown" dealt with delivery of water to Los Angeles from several hundred miles away. It's a good one and well worth your time, if you haven't seen it.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 02, 2015, 09:18 AM:

I just saw on the news that y'all are gonna start drinking toilet water.

Problem solved. [Smile]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 02, 2015, 10:18 AM:

Yes, mandatory. Just takes a little getting used to. The taste is said to be comparable to Coors? I'm in the minority but I think it's more like Corona.

Oh, and because this is Liberal Land, there's a quota, one gallon per day per citizen, no exceptions!

Vic, how much, bottom line?

Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on June 02, 2015, 11:20 AM:

My B-I-L lives in Wichita Falls, TX, and from what I understand, they have been recycling their turd water for about 3 years now.

Needless to say, they don't drink the tap water.

If I am not mistaken, did TR say he was a 'turd farmer'?...maybe he can shine some light on this process...

[ June 02, 2015, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: booger ]

Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on June 02, 2015, 11:43 AM:

I've heard from a reliable source that Aquafina bottled water is turd water. I just can't get used to that and won't.

ElBee, Coors is pure horse piss, close but probably not the same.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 02, 2015, 01:49 PM:

Even if it's free, even if it's one hundred degrees in the shade, I would decline an ice cold Coors. Not to be rude, I just find it undrinkable. Actually, I'm kinda fussy about beer and IPA.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on June 02, 2015, 02:59 PM:

if a guy thinks about it, lots of people already drink someone else's "turd" water. I mean after all, if there is a population of people that live upstream of you, chances are they is a wastewater treatment plant that treats their turd water, and then they discharge the treated water into the nearest creek where it flows downstream and to the next town where they pull the water out, treat it with a little chlorine and send to through pipes to someone's house, then they flush it, and the process starts all over again.
SO, be sure to live at the head of the creek! [Wink]

Yes, I do this for a living. And quite honestly, the treatment plant that I work at puts out the cleanest water in the state. Just the process that we use, and many plants are now having to make upgrades in order to meat the new regulations that are coming down the pike. We already exceed the new regs. Who ever built this treatment plant was ahead of the time.
I could go to the drinking fountain and fill a glass of water and dip a glass of water out of our effluent and you'd not be able to guess which was which.

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 02, 2015, 03:29 PM:

Well, it's about time somebody got realistic. St. Louis is downstream from Minneapolis and then New Orleans etc. Probably other cities along the way, I don't know but that Budweiser is brewed with recycled water. Suddenly, I remember that Olympia used to advertise the fact that they use artesian well water for their beer.

I also remember a survey a while back rating the quality and taste of water. The New York City municipal tap water was judged the best, I shit you not!

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Prune Picker (Member # 4107) on June 02, 2015, 06:07 PM:

Wasn't the slogan for Oly , "It's The Water And A Lot More" ?
The best beer I've ever drank was Coors Original, it was delivered in refrigerated trailers " back then". These days I've been known to take a pull on an ice cold Miller Lite or 2 when I get the urge.

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 03, 2015, 03:19 AM:

I still filter our tap water thru a Brita filter to drink it. Word is, NY pizza is superior due to our water??? Dunno if that's a fact, but our pizza is incomparable, no doubt about that...

Up @ the farm, there's an artesian well that runs 24/7/365. The water is wonderfully palatable!
We've got it plumbed thru a 2nd faucet in the kitchen sink & just leave it runnin'. When the cold hits, I put a shot of rubber hose over the spigot and down thru the sink drain & got heat tape wrapped around the drain pipe to keep it from freezing over. Nice to have running water when the rest of the place has been winterized...

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 03, 2015, 04:44 AM:

A small confession. I hate water. At least, drinking water. I am big on juice, especially orange juice, but I can't remember the last glass of water I drank, which was probably bottled anyway?

Nancy always had a glass of ice water, all day long. My father loved water, lot's of people do, but not me. It's rare but every once in a while, I find someone like me, won't drink water.

Some old guy told me many years ago that if I didn't drink water, I would certainly have trouble with my kidneys. I will risk it. I have never understood the deliciousness? My girlfriend buys bottled water, but not just any, has to be from Walgreens, because it tastes good? Water is water, to me?

Good hunting. El Bee

PS closed escrow yesterday, in Yucca Valley. Need to start moving

Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on June 03, 2015, 06:14 AM:

Congrats on the move Leonard!

I'm a water drinker, m'self. Don't that often drink anything else. Except for my morning coffee, it's the only thing I drink on most given days. Pretty big differences in taste, depending on source. Our well water in Caliente is about the best I've ever tasted, anywhere.

- DAA

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 03, 2015, 07:51 AM:

That's a very nice place you have in Caliente. Just looking at location, I would believe the water to be extremely good quality.

On the other hand, up in northern Canada, where Albert used to live, his well water was completely undrinkable, suitable only for bathing and maybe washing dishes, flushing etc. I think he said it was less than twenty feet deep, but the color was like rust.

The move only concerns some "stuff". This will be a second home, I'm not quite ready to sell Upland and relocate.

Good hunting. El Bee

Posted by Dave Allen (Member # 3102) on June 03, 2015, 05:35 PM:

Enjoy your time in Yucca Valley, Leonard. I'll have to look it up, sounds like a cool place.

Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on June 05, 2015, 02:16 PM:

Leonard, been kinda wanting a good IPA ever since you mentioned them the other day. So I grabbed a six-er of Dogfish Head 60minute IPA on the way home.

Raising a glass and wishing the best for you & your new digs!!!

[ June 05, 2015, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: knockemdown ]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on June 05, 2015, 05:36 PM:

Fred, I had a half a hunch that I should spell it out, maybe some of these guys might not know what the hell "India Pale Ale" is?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: and, yes, this is my first day in these new digs, talk about disorganized? "somebody" outsmarted herself by having the electric shut off at the other place, without having cleaned out the refrigerator. Ice cream is soup. Other than that we are chillin'. This is going to be her house, I will only be here part time.

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