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Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 05, 2014, 04:12 PM:

http://www.kansasa gland.com/news/stateagnews/youtube-peabody-farmer-serenades-his-cattle-with-his-trombone/article_7aa24eb8-da94-5a33-adb5-5cdace208209.html

This guy is about forty-five miles south of me in the Flint Hills. LOL My hunting partner Kevin's worst nightmare.

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Posted by booger (Member # 3602) on August 06, 2014, 09:17 AM:

Lance,
Can you howl with a trombone, and what kind of distress sounds can you make with it? [Big Grin]

Nothing is more frustrating than a 'thundering herd' coming to the call!

Take care!
Tim

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 06, 2014, 02:04 PM:

Dangerous, too. Night before last, I was lying in bed watching Furtakers on my phone and they were in Kansas. Looked to be out by Ellsworth. Anyway, they showed a couple herds of cows with calves - looked to be September born calves which are common around here these days - that they were calling around. Doing that around here generally requires talking to the producer ahead of time to stay out of trouble. As a rule, I don't lean too heavily on lower sounding distress calls in those pastures because I have had enraged cows try to stomp my ass into the grass. I have had herds of cows panic at distress sounds and almost trample calves trying to get the little ones surrounded and protected from the perceived threat. even howls can get the mamas peaved and I generally let those cows dictate the flow of the stand. No way in hell you get brownie points for getting a calf hurt because the cows are spooked. I don't know if Al and Mike had any problems out there, or if they are even aware of the potential for problems in those circumstances, but you generally start a stand off there very conservatively and see how the live stock reacts before you go balls to the wall. My first time getting educated about this involved about 125 cows running TOWARD me just after I began calling with a hand call. I felt them coming first, then I heard them, then I saw them. Those docile bovine sweeties can get a red ass under certain circumstance and you're better off not going nose to nose with them. Even if you don't piss them off, scaring them with a howl and making them run will get your butt in a sling, too. As one producer told me, running a cow when it's cold outside will gimme a cow with a cough tomorrow and a dead cow a few days later. They don't like us running their cattle. We try to oblige.

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 06, 2014, 03:11 PM:

^^^
What Lance said...cant stand calling around cattle or antelope.

I have also been molested by gangs of doe deer. Amazing what predator calls can do.
Mark

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 06, 2014, 08:21 PM:

^ ^ ^

Try having a herd of feral burros come in.
[Eek!]

Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 06, 2014, 08:29 PM:

It only takes one pissed off horse. Just saying.

Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on August 07, 2014, 06:34 AM:

Yes, and speaking of that....do they still round up horses out in the dez?

Burros are so cute and cuddly!
Mark

Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on August 07, 2014, 08:14 AM:

"Burros are so cute & cuddly"

You ain't been where I been !!!!

Good looking beasts, silver with black markings and pretty damn aggressive when responding to distress sounds.

Posted by Cdog911 (Member # 7) on August 07, 2014, 02:52 PM:

Ronnie Robison calls those "Jesus jacks" because of the cross formed by the black line down their back and across their shoulders. He recounted to me one time he was calling and wasn't aware that there was a Jesus Jack in the pasture with him, until a coyote came in, the jack ran past him and stomped the shit out of that coyote. LOL

I don't have antelope where I hunt. Just cattle, and some bison/ buffalo. I don't mind calling around "some" cattle - as long as there aren't young (preweaned) calves, but buffalo and me just don't get along. Now, I do have one place that is full up with longhorn crosses. Those cattle don't act like angus or Herefords. They'll just ignore you most days, even with young calves, unless you get too close. The next day, as soon as they see you, they may try to run your ass down. Had 'em try. Sat down in that pasture one time with our backs to a big cedar and had a coyote come in that I shot. I had told Kevin that they ignore the calling but wouldn't you know, here comes this big mean-assed red and white speckled bitch with a black face charging in like she was gonna kill us. I shot the coyote and the cow stopped. Didn't know is she was gonna let me recover him or not. Same place, another time, I had a mangey coyote come in and I got a bad hit at about 200 yards. Coyote was spinning around and I was just about ready to top him off with a follow up when a big gnarly longhorn steer came in from the left and just mashed him. End of story. Whooda thunk?

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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 08, 2014, 04:40 AM:

In Okieland this past winter, we were calling a section, next to where some show cows were. There were some small calves on the ground, and a little gray donkey was in there with 'em...
Ronnie told me, that little gray donkey was there to protect them show calves from coyotes & would flat stomp a mudhole into one, given the chance!

Good donkey!!!

Posted by TRnCO (Member # 690) on August 11, 2014, 08:11 AM:

I'm lucky enough that most of my stomping grounds have enough area that it's easy enough to avoid bovine. BUT one funny bovine story was in KS., was calling with a buddy, when we sat down we had about 50 heifers within about 350 yards of us but we hoped that they'd leave us be. But sure as the sunrise in the east, they had to head our way to investigate the woodpecker screams. So we stopped calling, and they'd stop their advance, but once we would start again, here they would come again. Long story short, we spotted a coyote coming also, from further out, but the heifers got to us first. Had us surrounded basically, call was in a small cedar about 20 yards out. We could see the coyote from time to time, through and between the cattle, and it was still coming. Once the coyote got about 75 yrds. away, the heifers noticed it, and the chase was on. We were both cussing the bovine, but danged it that coyote didn't run'em in about a 200 yard circle, running just fast enough to stay ahead of'em, and the coyote made it back to the call far enough in-front of the bovine that we were able to shoot'em at about 30 yards from our position. We got a laugh out of it. Went from cussing the cattle, to thinking they did a pretty fine job of bringing the coyote right to us.

Posted by 32below (Member # 2075) on August 16, 2014, 07:24 PM:

Some folks honk the truck horn, others whoop and holler, bang on buckets etc. A ranch north of here has a massive feed truck with an air horn they use. Like Pavlov's dog you can teach em to come to feed with about any sound. That however is one of the more original I've seen.

Posted by 32below (Member # 2075) on August 16, 2014, 07:26 PM:

But I do make a point of not calling around livestock. People on horseback they've seen as well as people behind the windshield of a truck but a man on foot will send em over the next hill in a hurry.

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