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Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on December 18, 2018, 01:48 PM:
Looking to buy a GPS unit to use for hunting. Which unit do y'all suggest?
And does anyone run on X maps?
Thanks
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 18, 2018, 02:25 PM:
Have a few years old Garmin Oregon 450T that is perfectly adequate, but the screen contrast & brightness left something to be desired. But it'll get ya where ya wanna go, and back on a couple AAs
Upgraded to an Oregon 700...screen & ease of use much better!
And, yes to On X. Have purchased maps for a few 'out west' states, and the info & detail provided were worth the price...for this flat-land-non-resident. I actually have On X on my phone, too...
They make some GPS units with integrated comms, but that wasn't a feature I cared to have.
Good luck!
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on December 18, 2018, 03:09 PM:
I have OnX and love it. I have a chip in an old Garmin and have on phone as well.
Not sure what I would get if I bought a new stand alone GPS unit.
Mark
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on December 18, 2018, 04:29 PM:
Yeah I have the OnX map for my Phone definitely the way to go....
Posted by CrossJ (Member # 884) on December 18, 2018, 04:56 PM:
My old garmin gps gathers dust. I have the premium package for OnX on my phone and on tablets in trucks. Its awesome for weigh points, landowners, topo etc. Definitely thought out and designed by hunters. Plus, larger screen sizes than most gps's. The down side is the accuracy of the overlays and individual location. I have seen discrepancies of more than 300'.
OnX, google maps and google earth have all but retired my Garmin.
Maintain
Posted by UTcaller (Member # 8) on December 18, 2018, 05:06 PM:
Yeah I’ve got the premium package too. Love it. I will usually down load the area to the offline feature I plan on hunting the night before. Most of the areas I hunt have no service so I just keep my phone in airplane mode and use the offline map I down loaded. So phone doesn’t use much battery.
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Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on December 19, 2018, 05:50 AM:
Thank you gentlemen for the handy info. My phone isn't the best for gps.... I have recalibrated it several times and still its off by a quarter mile so a dedicated gps is going to be my best option.
I am on a budget so this is my big hurdle.. No experience with this technology... Reading reviews and gathering info is my friend.
Thanks again guys
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 19, 2018, 07:13 AM:
It hurts to be so out of touch on friggin' backpacks, but now THIS ! I haven't even retired my Garmin. What the hell is a on x?
Give me the good old days.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on December 19, 2018, 08:31 AM:
Don t know what your budget is but..for "around" 150 bucks or less, you can get the ol' 62s that will run an OnX chip. I have one, the screen is irritatingly small, but it works.
For 189-200 you can get a little better Garmin 64. Thats as far as I got for research.
I still carry the 62s, (as well as my phone) and it works for me. Like I said, the screen is small, and its not a touch screen, so its a little irritating, especially when your used to a smartphone....but, it has served me pretty well riding in my backpack roaming thru the mountains or coyote hunting up and down Kalifornia and Arizona.
Mark
Also.. buy a shit load of batteries for em.
Mark
Posted by earthwalker (Member # 4177) on December 19, 2018, 11:42 AM:
Have 2 hand held GPS'
One is the Garrmin 60CS
One is the Garmin 60CSx which will take a chip so you can put the Onx map system in it.
Bought the Garmin big screen for the pickup this summer and love it. It has the Onx map chip in it. Can set waypoints on it.
The Garmin 60CSx is mid range priced and user friendly. Never had used one when we bought the first one. Didn't take long to understand it and have it up and running.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 20, 2018, 05:21 AM:
Amazon has a pretty good deal on the Garmin eTrex 20x for $126 and free shipping
Linky doesn't wanna paste, should be easy enough to search it...
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Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on December 20, 2018, 05:51 AM:
I was scoping that one out on Amazon, knockemdown. My top dollar I can spend is about 150. I wish I had more to spend but I am saving the rest for the trip out to Arizona.
Oh! Can't forget the rechargeable batteries too!
Thanks again everyone.
Happy Holidays Huntmasters!
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on December 20, 2018, 06:04 AM:
Great minds...LOL
Imho, skip the rechargeables, and run Energizer Lithium AAs. I've done both and prefer the Lithium batteries for GPS and headlamp. And a few spares weigh next to nothing to carry along...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on December 20, 2018, 06:45 AM:
I agree on the lithiums. A couple days ago, I recharged all my rechargables, just as spares, but plugging in lithium AA. They seem to last forever. They don't give them away, however.
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: oh, and they are Energizers. Normally I prefer diehard but if they make 'em, I haven't seen any?
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Posted by Ariel Perez (Member # 4678) on December 20, 2018, 12:42 PM:
On x is what I use and I think it’s a lot better then a handheld in my opinion but that’s not much.
Posted by ATexan (Member # 6799) on December 21, 2018, 04:38 PM:
Been researching the shitty GPS accuracy on my phone. I found most smart phones have different modes of GPS. My problem was the phone I am using was set on battery saving mode, I switched the mode to high accuracy and what do know? Its finally pin pointing me. Which is awesome for my hunting apps but big brother knows my exact location... That sucks.
If one needs to change modes you will want to go to your settings tab, hit the location tab and look for the mode. Click which one you want to use and your set. Also might try the Google map gps reset deal.... waving of the phone in figure 8s.. It worked for me.... Weird but it worked.
Posted by TOM64 (Member # 561) on December 23, 2018, 09:11 AM:
Just wanted to say On X has a sale on now, for $20/year it looks pretty good. I had a big ranch that was being sold off bit by bit and it comes in handy knowing not only where the property lines are but who owns it as well.
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on January 01, 2019, 02:40 PM:
Got in under the wire for the discount. Thanks for the heads up. My first time using this phone app. I like the off line feature.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 01, 2019, 04:14 PM:
I use the onX for one thing , knowing if I'm on public or private ground it works ! this from an analog man stuck in a digital world.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 02, 2019, 07:34 AM:
The thing about that, Paul, from the guy that mentioned to me about how a land owner has to post his property, (in AZ) every so often, and if he don't I guess you can enter? How does that work, exactly, Mr Analog?
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 02, 2019, 07:58 AM:
On private unposted land footholds are legal on public cages are needed !
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 02, 2019, 08:14 AM:
Yeah, but I was just thinking of the trespass considerations? I thought you said, if a land owner doesn't legally post his property at regular intervals, that there is no reason why you can't enter? And, if he objects, he can request that you leave, which would be the right thing to do. Leave, that is.
Point is, he can't shoot you or have you arrested if he didn't properly post his No Trespass signs? I thought that is how you described the situation? That's what I always tell them...well, Paul said; and that settles that.
Just kidding, but I'm not trapping.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 02, 2019, 08:23 AM:
Leonard the letter of the law is every corner must bs posted and every quarter mile in between , sign
must state no trespassing no hunting ,trapping and then list the Arizona revised statue at the bottom. For me any sign and I stay off its just common respect!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 02, 2019, 08:53 AM:
I certainly understand respect. But, the situation I would encounter in western Colorado was a piece of engineer tape wrapped around a post, supposed to indicate No Trespassing. I'm talking about uncertainty and honest mistakes as to whether or not the land in question might be state trust or BLM or other public property. I'm not looking for trouble. But, I approach it from the standpoint of, it ain't posted, therefore access is allowed? You know, having spent so much time in Nevada, where there are very few restrictions, and then AZ is a little different. I don't know the exact numbers, but the whole state of Nevada must be at least 75/80% public land. AZ seems to have these gray areas and all I need is a hunting license. You know? Like that.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on January 03, 2019, 04:30 AM:
Leonard,if you want to try the concept on your phone for free take a look here.
https://www.gaiagps.com/
Lotsa hunters use this and feel it's better than OnX.
I use both.Of course they offer 'premium' memberships for $$ with added features etc as well.
A hi tec buddy claims they are the future.Who knows?Easy n cheap to try though.
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 03, 2019, 04:49 AM:
Caution is needed I had a friend that was six feet off and lost his hunting and trapping privileges for three years . And we are taking the nicest and most honest guy you will ever meet !
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Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on January 03, 2019, 05:52 AM:
I sometimes watch these game cop shows , why is it they can go any where without warrant and check for violations I don't like scumbag poachers any more than the next guy but its always guilty till proven innocent?
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Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on January 03, 2019, 06:14 AM:
I watch those shows on rare occasion, only to be reminded why I don't tune in more...
Regardless of whether the officer is a good ol' boy, or an obvious dickweed, you're exactly right Paul, most everyone confronted is assumed guilty of something...
But to err on the side of the decent officers, I think that has as much, or more to do with the narrative those shows are produced to follow. All it takes to figger that out, is to see what channel the show is on! Ya can't tell me with a straight face that a show on ANIMAL PLANET is gonna give deference to us deplorable bambi killers, do ya??
IMHO, it's just another hit job on US. Now...stating that is NOT to excuse poachers or slobs, it's just that the show sure doesn't go out of its way to delineate who's who. Therefore, we are all cast in the same negative light, by design...
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 03, 2019, 10:43 AM:
That is particularly true, in my opinion! Those producers have an axe to grind, and they make zero effort to define the difference between the illegal stuff and legitimate hunting and complying with sensible game laws.
That's why I don't watch that shit anymore. It just pisses me off. Whether the perps are intentionally breaking the law or are caught in a misunderstanding of, or ignorance of a certain law. In other words, I think the average viewer comes away thinking that poacher and hunter are interchangeable words with the same meaning.
I'm telling you, I have long been suspicious of the infiltration of state game and fish or department of wildlife. Used to be, the wardens and biologists were fellow travelers, sportsmen and hunters just like me. Not any more. There people seem to be hard core enforcement types, and suspiciously likely to use obviously underhanded methods, sting type shit. I guess regulations are necessary, but that time I witnessed a Fish and Game Captain check about 40 dove hunters almost in a row, and during prime time, and catching a couple of dumb schmucks that forgot to install a plug. That was harassment, in my mind and everybody there felt the same way. In other words, I didn't see anybody shaming the fool, they just thought it was kind of unlucky.
Anymore, I do not greet wardens with anything other than apprehension, like what is this prick going to come up with? I had two wardens search the whole vehicle and camper looking to see if there might be a single 2 3/4" 12 gauge shell somewhere that could be loaded into a short barreled Mossberg 500 that was used as a walk out gun for tracking down cripples and therefore, did not have a plug and didn't use anything except 3" shells and it's hardly a birdgun anyway. But, the intent of these clowns was to find something they could write up, because they already had a hard on for predator hunters.
It doesn't take too many negative encounters with these pricks and you develop an attitude. And, I have others; don't get me started. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on January 03, 2019, 11:56 AM:
Ive had 2 similar experiences last couple years regarding coyote hunting with a shotgun. Both turned out well but you have to gently remind them of the regs as they are fixiated on bird hunting when they see a shotgun. In my case, both wardens were pretty cool about it, but one did try to lecture me about the "optics" of what I was doing. I said that I welcome inspection anytime as long as no one had a chip on their shoulder just out to get someone. I know it pissed him off a little but I do think he wanted to be fair...that day. They both looked in the truck to see if I had birds, regardless of pointing out dead coyotes and 3" shells with big ass shot in em.
Ive had some real dicks pull up on me. The worst are the women wardens...they have something to prove.
Mark
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on January 03, 2019, 01:20 PM:
In response to the above and to clarify what I wrote. Those guys were trying to insert more than 6 shells, which I guess was some type of limit, at least at that time. This gun held 6 rounds comfortably and came tantalizingly close to accepting a 7th. That's why they tried to find a short shell to prove a violation. Anyway, with these days of 20 round magazines, etc. it might be a mute point, but they seem to want to equate everything with bird hunting as Mark just said.Also, seems to me that you have to be in the field hunting birds before those regulations are enforceable. A shotgun in your truck without a plug is not a violation, in my opinion.
Also, I completely agree with his claim that female wardens are the worst! Totally enforcement and punishment and "By the book" harassment, and they aren't the least bit embarrassed if caught being wrong. They just act like, well I tried, can't blame me for trying! It's a complete negative attitude. No damned wonder they get the same back at them.
One time, on a completely different subject as I was talking to this pony tailed chick, she suddenly veered off as my son walked by with a spinning outfit. She tried to jump him about a barbless hook regulation in a nearby stream, but we weren't even there, yet she wanted to check if he had a barb on his spinner. It's enforcement, as if she is the only thing standing between the wildlife and slaughter.
It's obvious that I do have a negative attitude concerning game wardens. Truthfully, years ago, I didn't. Then I was sited for accidentally walking into a geese pasture inadequately marked by a couple of 12" white stakes, & while we were hunting pheasant. Seized our "weapons" and had to appear 200 miles from home on a work day. I paid the fine. That was the first and only game infraction I have ever suffered but left me indignant; like I was an ex con. And, I've never been arrested for anything, ever. It's like a stigma, a blemish, a scoff law. Forgot to mention, they didn't actually take our guns, they just recorded the serial numbers and it was called a technical seizure, meaning that they could have if they wanted to.
Of course, now days, they love to seize vehicles and anything of value, usually concerning drug offenses but also F&G code.
Sorry to rattle on. I told ya, don't get me started!
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by NVWalt (Member # 375) on January 03, 2019, 05:11 PM:
Same here Leonard. Don't get me started!!!!
Posted by DiYi (Member # 3785) on January 08, 2019, 01:38 PM:
Interesting article:https://blog.gaiagps.com/gaia-gps-vs-onx-hunt/
Posted by Semp (Member # 3074) on November 25, 2019, 02:53 AM:
The ONX app is on sale again for 30% off. Through next Monday I think.
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Posted by DEL GUE (Member # 1526) on February 14, 2020, 11:08 PM:
For anybody who actually wants a handheld gps, I picked up this at Bass Pro last year around Black Friday. I got a deal on it.
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/garmin-gpsmap-64st-handheld-navigation-unit
It's a little bigger than some, but the attribute is that it works off of buttons, not touch screen, so if you're trying to use it in winter with gloves on, you can.
A few years ago I picked up another Garmin, I think it was a Etrex 25. I still have that one.
Previously I had an Oregon model, but it shit the bit, which kinda pissed me off, as it was too much coin to just take a dump like that.
Anyway, I'm happy with my 64st now.
Having just a single gps or phone out in the bush makes me nervous. It's electronic, so it could crap out or the batts die (ALWAYS carry fresh spares!!). I prefer redundancy, like a second unit, or a map and ball compass. Two is one and one is none.
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