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Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 27, 2015, 12:25 PM:
Any of you have experience calling in black bear?
Tell me about it!
I called in one, one time, on accident - using a cow elk call. But have never really tried calling them.
Saw the biggest one I've ever seen a couple days ago. Great big cinnamon/blonde. Honestly looked to be fully twice the size of most the bear I've seen in Utah. Bigger than any of the black bear I saw in Yellowstone last year.
He bailed as soon as he saw the Jeep and I had no chance for taking a picture. Drove on to where I was going and hiked 10 miles, then stopped when I came back by and called with fawn distress for half an hour, just for the heck of it. Nothing.
Anyway... Just got me thinking it might be a fun summer diversion to try and call in a bear for the camera. And wondering if any of you have had much luck with it?
- DAA
Posted by Lone Howl (Member # 29) on July 27, 2015, 01:22 PM:
Dave, Ive called in a few, using cottontail calls, fawn bleats,and crazy cub bawls and screams. I like the fawn bleats best. Seems to be the most appealing to them imo. Ive had success doing some cold calling, knowing bears were in the area, and Ive also spotted them first and called them to me. Heavy cover sucks, they can be right on you in no time, Ive had them come up on me and not even know it, if the ground is bare. Other times they sound like a freight train blasting thru the woods.
Last year, during archery season, I spotted a big boy on top of a small hill, about 80 yards away. I was walking on the dirt road at the base, and I whipped out an enclosed reed call, did some bleats, and this thing just hauled ass down the hill right at me. It honestly startled me, cause he sounded like a pickup truck coming thru the brush and trees. Then I realized that he was focused like a laser on my position, and I was more than a little nervous at that point. He stopped about 30 yards away, right behind a tree. He stood there for a bit, then I noticed he was popping his jaws and slobbering, so he knew I was there. I let an arrow fly but totally missed him. He hauled and I never saw him again. This same scenerio has happened to me twice on this same hill, with different bears, and one was not called in.
I love to hunt black bears during archery, but it can get scary. I will be back at it next month though.
I called in and shot one probly 10 years ago, after seeing him standing on a dirt road. Just started calling like I was calling coyotes, and he ran up the dirt road and I shot him at about 50 yards with a rifle, straight on thru the front chest. Backed the pickup up to him, loaded him up and went home.
Mark
Posted by Kokopelli (Member # 633) on July 27, 2015, 06:35 PM:
First; Make sure that you really want to call in a bear. It can get pretty intense.
Second; Back up against something large enough that a bear can't backdoor you. Or get up in a tree stand.
Third; An e-caller and a deke will get the bear's attention away from you. Away from you is good. On top of you is bad.
Fourth; If you're cold calling, call where there's sign.
Fifth; Don't expect high numbers of successful stands but it's a rush when it works.
Good luck !!!!
Posted by Aaron Rhoades (Member # 4234) on July 27, 2015, 06:51 PM:
Dave, we have called 6 that I know of, we got two of them. WT has a really good bear cub distress that works real well. All of our calling has been cold calling. First one was 35 minutes, a friend shot it. Mine was 2 minutes, got lucky and set up right on it without knowing. I used the WT for all the bear calling, 3 came to a mixture of rabbit, fawn and elk calf.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on July 28, 2015, 05:25 AM:
Good stuff fellas!
Hoping I get a chance to try it before summer is over. Will let you know how it goes, if I do.
- DAA
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on July 28, 2015, 06:04 AM:
While on summer vacation in the white mountains at 9,000 ft elevation with the family, I would get up early and make a few stands calling coyotes. When mouth calling alone, I get on the call much less say 15 seconds and stay off the call for 4 minutes between sets. The reason being is if the coyote is within eyesight of me but I have not seen Mr Coyote, Mr Coyote will immediately lock in on me as soon as I call.
On one such stand while off the call between sets, I heard something big move. I just sat there hoping it would move within range. Finally it moved where I could see its outline within range behind some bushes about 35 yards to my right. It was a nice sized bear. Not a Boone and Crockett trophy but still a good size bear. I gave the call one short peep and it came running across my bow so to speak. I jumped up, yelled, and pulled off my 3D camo head cover. The bear just looked at me and cocked his head for about 3 seconds. He then turned around a ran off. It wasn't bear season.
The other bear I called in I spotted after I quit calling and stood up. He was in some brush about 50 yards away. He was an young adolescent. My wife was with me and that is the only bear she has ever seen in the wild.
BTW and edited in: I was using a pee wee critter call making puppy whines when I called both bears.
[ July 28, 2015, 06:05 AM: Message edited by: Aznative ]
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 28, 2015, 07:12 AM:
Yeah, I stumbled into a situation three or four years ago north of Congress. It really got me thinking, all negative. First, I don't have a clue if it was in season, didn't have a tag, etc. Also, it was a sow and two cubs! Now what?
End of story is a yawner. They just veered off and down the arroyo into real heavy stuff, but even then, I was worried she could double back on me over the ridge. I had seen enough; get out when the getting's good.
Only daytime bear, ever. Calling at night a couple times but that's totally different, you can afford to screw with one from the truck. For me, the secret is to stay the hell out of the woods, or where ever they like to hang out?
Calling a bear on purpose is for a total optimist. Bring something with you, your lunch, or a cross word puzzle; or knitting that ball warmer you have been neglecting for so long. Whatever.
Good hunting. El Bee
Posted by Aznative (Member # 506) on July 28, 2015, 10:32 AM:
Leonard: What State was that in? Congress, Arizona?
Posted by Moe (Member # 4494) on July 28, 2015, 11:58 AM:
A biologist friend of mine was blowing a deer call, fawn distress, while deer hunting in SE Alaska and called up a huge brown bear that did a false charge on him.
Joe went back to the research vessel and changed his shorts.
I've sat many days in SE Alaska blowing on a deer call but have never called up a bear. I've had a lot of bear encounters, both black and brown, but never called one in.
The only tip I can give you is that if a black bear starts huffing on you it's time to quit screwing with him.
If you get lucky I would love to see the pictures. You're already at "legend" status around here and that would top it all.
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on July 28, 2015, 01:13 PM:
Congress? I fergit?
Posted by Paul Melching (Member # 885) on August 07, 2015, 06:58 AM:
Dave
I have called exactly one black bear intentionally
I set up on sign near a crabapple he'd been hitting. he was supposed to come down a draw to road below us instead he came down the side slope to with in 8-10' of me could have poked him with my rifle then he turned and went down slope to the road and I shot him on the road so I could drive the atv to him for loading. He came in at 10-12 minutes playing cottontail. I had put the caller about fifty yards behind me I had a tree at my back and had a very good idea where he would come from reading his traffic in the dirt.
That's all I know about calling bears maybe more.
Posted by jimanaz (Member # 3689) on August 07, 2015, 04:12 PM:
No experience what so ever. However, from one of the local club "experts", according to Rich, cold calling is a real crapshoot. Comparable to cold calling a lion. However, if you spot one, they most always will respond to pretty much any prey sound. Personally, I would prefer to know where a bear is coming from.
Posted by DAA (Member # 11) on August 08, 2015, 05:00 AM:
Looking not too likely I'll be trying it this summer. But, I'd really like to next year.
Thinking that pure cold calling will not be too productive. Will hopefully have spotted one first or at least have some hot sign to setup on.
- DAA
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 08, 2015, 05:53 AM:
One word: BERRY PATCH
Posted by Az-Hunter (Member # 17) on August 08, 2015, 06:04 AM:
In Arizona; it's two words, prickly pear groves in august/sept, and juniper berries in the winter.
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on August 09, 2015, 06:58 AM:
Yeah, I've called in six black bear in one season while hunting coyote at night in PA.
They came in to Cal's cottontail, DSG cottontail, and another cottontail call from an Extreme Dimension caller I was using early on, and still have.
I say six bear, but one or two of these may have been repeats. Some definitely were not repeats though, as the bears acted differently.
One circled around behind me. I don't know why, but I assume it was up to no good. Eventually I made enough movement and racket that it left.
I have called in black bear at night in the fall and the winter, and have done so over a few different years. It always makes for an interesting walk out of the woods in the dark. Glad I have my Mossberg and a Glock 10mm as backup.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 11, 2015, 06:27 AM:
Nick, your experiences kinda makes me glad there aren't any bears where I hunt in CNY!
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on August 11, 2015, 01:43 PM:
Fred, I am surprised there aren't any there!
Posted by Leonard (Member # 2) on August 11, 2015, 06:20 PM:
^what he said
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 12, 2015, 03:44 AM:
Sounds strange, but the Tug Hill Plateau region of central NY is conspicuously devoid of black bears. Head south toward the Allegheny region bordering PA, or east to the Catkill Mts, and the habitat is more conducive for bear. But they just haven't populated the rolling farm country where I hunt, as of yet...
That said, my farmer friend DID see a bear two Summers ago. Had to have been a transient, cuz someone woulda shot its azz if it stuck around for deer season!
Incidentally, that was the 1st year that black bear could be legally hunted in our WMU, so maybe they're moving in?
Same goes for bobcats. There just ain't no cats in that area. Which really irks me, as it looks like it'd be PRIME cat country! Seems like both cats & bears want to live nearer to more mountainous/rocky terrain. There just ain't enough of that out on farm country...
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on August 13, 2015, 03:37 PM:
Tug Hill is way up there. It's almost 5 hours from me.
Posted by knockemdown (Member # 3588) on August 14, 2015, 06:03 AM:
Nick, looking at a map, I mis-represented the area. We're south of Tug Hill, squarely in the Finger Lakes region...
Posted by 4949shooter (Member # 3530) on August 15, 2015, 02:39 AM:
Oh okay. We went through the Finger Lakes area taking our son to visit Rochester Institute of Technology a few years ago.
That is beautiful country up there. Looks great for waterfowl and deer in addition to coyote.
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