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Moe
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Icon 1 posted March 13, 2016 07:36 PM      Profile for Moe           Edit/Delete Post 
I read where he vowed to make all illegals legal within 100 days of taking up residence in the White House. Now I see this:

http://clashdaily.com/2016/03/dear-john-kasich-is-this-letter-from-bill-clinton-to-you-true/

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2016 03:18 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Perfect example of why voters are sick to death of two faced, parasitic, career politicians.

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booger
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2016 11:59 AM      Profile for booger   Email booger         Edit/Delete Post 
Interesting...what a kick in the crotch!

It is really amazing to look at all of the articles claiming what Trump and Cruz have done to the Republican Party...what they don't realize, it is asshats like Kasich, Boehner, McConnell, McCain, etc., that have made it possible for guys like Trump and Cruz to resonate with voters.

The establishment types will never understand what is going on outside of the confines of D.C.

[ March 14, 2016, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: booger ]

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4949shooter
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2016 01:27 PM      Profile for 4949shooter   Email 4949shooter         Edit/Delete Post 
Screw him. He lacked the charisma to be president anyway.
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 14, 2016 01:52 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I sorta had a soft spot for Kasich, but this amnesty bullshit is a definite disqualification, for me.

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 06:22 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know what I'd do on the 12 million illegals. Amnesty or legalization sounds pretty bad. But rounding them up and deporting them is just fantasy, it simply isn't possible and isn't ever going to happen.

So, don't do anything?

Seriously, I don't know what, that is actually possible, to do? Smart money is on don't do anything, I think.

I'm not upset about anyone taking a realistic approach to the discussion though. But every time I hear the round 'em up and ship 'em out stuff, my bullshit shield goes up and I stop listening and move on to something else... That just isn't, ever, going, to, happen.

In a very related issue... If the republicans can't get the mexicans to vote for them, they'll probably lose in November, too. And right now, the mexicans hate Trump almost as much as he hates them.

We're just fucked. I think...

- DAA

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 08:49 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
We can go to the moon but we can't deport illegals? Hell, I don't know what's possible but I'm really sick of laying out the welcome wagon, subsidized rent, food stamps, free medical and stuff I can't begin to imagine, but (for sure) stuff I can't get. And, my taxes are paying for it.

If it's impossible to send them back, can we at least stop giving them driver's licenses and letting them vote? I'm telling you, Liberals have really fucked up this country....but they think people like me is the problem.

Good hunting. El Bee

PS okay, it's imp[ossible to send them back. How will we know unless we give it a try? Forget the anchor baby stuff.

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DAA
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 09:21 AM      Profile for DAA   Author's Homepage   Email DAA         Edit/Delete Post 
Look, I'm just one guy and it's just my opinion. But, yeah, I think it's literally impossible to send them back.

Identify, track down, detain, encamp, shelter, clothe and feed while the trains, planes and buses roll in empty and roll out full, for what? Years?

Spend billions if not a trillion in the process.

So that democrats lose part of their base and republicans lose their cheap labor. Let's be honest, both sides want them to stay, for their own reasons and both sides talk out both sides of their mouths about it. Just more of the usual bullshit.

In this country? I really don't think so.

There is no political will for it.

But, beyond that and more to my point, the logistics are mind boggling. I, personally, just don't see how it could possibly be accomplished. On the ground, for real. Even IF both parties could agree to do it (which will never, ever, ever, never, ever, never happen - because neither party actually wants it to happen...).

I guess what I'm saying, is that if that is the answer, then I'm going with there actually is no answer. Like asking a kid how he's going to pay for the $50K accidental damage he just caused. Doesn't matter what he says, believes or actually does, he ain't coming up with the fifty grand... And this country ain't rounding up and shipping out 12 million people.

But that's just my view.

- DAA

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Az-Hunter
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 10:51 AM      Profile for Az-Hunter           Edit/Delete Post 
Ive been a broken record on this matter for years; make it absolutely illegal to hire ANY employee who is not a US citizen. Make the fine 10 grand a pop to the employer, whether it's Tyson chicken, or someone hiring an illegal to mow the lawn.
I believe in a few short years, illegals would self deport, why in the hell would they wish to remain here if there was not work or no welfare to ride on?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 11:12 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I was following along until these last few words: "no welfare to ride on?" THAT'S WHAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN ! As sure as the sun rises in the morning, they will get their welfare, all of it because; milk for the kiddies! They play on our generosity, which is actually killing us.

Dave, I read some history about Eisenhower deporting a couple million Mexicans back in 195?. I realize twelve is more than two, but (again) if we can go to the friggin' moon, why can't we deport 12 million illegal people? Even if it takes years? You know that old saying about a journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step? Exactly WHY is it so impossible, in your mind? No collective will, something like that? I'm not buying the part about empty trains, logistics, etc. Would it hurt to try? If it doesn't work, at least we only wasted a couple billion $. That's chump change compared to what it costs us to feed and house them and confine them in prison. The ones that work are entrenched in the underground (cash) economy, doesn't help us legitimately. And, they all send about 40% of what they earn back to Mexico, which is that country's largest source of income. Maybe that's what Trump is getting at when he says he will get Mexico to pay for the wall?

Good hunting. El Bee

edit: hey, good idea, Mr free baloney sandwiches! Make it illegal to hire a wetback. lol

[ March 16, 2016, 11:16 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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UTcaller
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 12:58 PM      Profile for UTcaller   Email UTcaller         Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Dave. It would be impossible to round them all up and send em back. But like Vic said if you completely shut down the gravy train you could fix it and pretty quickly.

No Healthcare,No Jobs,No Welfare,No Housing, No ID's = NO ILLEGALS......And as far as the bleeding hearts and there compassion for all the illegals . Sorry choices have consequences. Come here illegally and you get NADA!!!!!!!

They would be tripping over themselves to get back to the Homeland.

And all those things they can't take advantage of listed above should have consequences too. Like Vic said Stiff fines Employers,Hospitals,State and Federal officials etc. for noncompliance...

Good Hunting Chad

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 05:03 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
One word: DREAM ON!

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted March 16, 2016 05:17 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
But, what I do not get is exactly WHY the hispanics get all hot and bothered because somebody wants to do something about the porous border? I know for an absolute fact that Mexican-Americans realize that wetbacks harm them just as much as everybody else. Economically.

But, I think that they don't think it over properly, they take it personal...."what, you whitey's don't like Mexicans? Answer: We don't like freeloading illegal Mexicans. Legal American citizens of hispanic background are perfectly fine. We are a nation of immigrants. People that wait for the opportunity fill a quota and get a visa or a green card.

I think it's a huge mistake for all hispanics to support legalizing twelve million illegals, and as a conservative Republican, it is patently stupid to support a path to citizenship for twelve million Democratic voters! Mexicans are proud that they are the largest segment in the prison population. <barf>

Bottom line, that's what it's all about: FREE STUFF! The Democrats keep bankrupting the country and it won't be long before we run out of; (as Thatcher once said) other people's money!

And, we have Bernie who also wants to give everybody free college. Of course, Hillary says: Me Too!

It's pretty disgusting.
Definition of low information voter-Mexicans, for one!
Good hunting. El Bee

[ March 16, 2016, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Cdog911
"There are some ideas so absurd only an intellectual could believe them."--George Orwell.
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Icon 1 posted March 17, 2016 06:13 PM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
The liberal power players love the fact that liberal voters love Mexicans. The power brokers don't give two shits about Juan and his bambinos, except for the fact that they can secure Juan's votes from here to hell and back with free shit on our dime, which translates to power for the power brokers. All about power and money. The dip shits that follow the party line and have such great feeling and empathy for these illegals are just useful idiots. Kinda stating the obvious to the choir, but no one had said it yet.

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Aznative
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Icon 1 posted March 18, 2016 12:51 AM      Profile for Aznative           Edit/Delete Post 
Let's face it. Neither party is going to ship out the illegals. The Dems need their votes and big business donates to the Repubs to keep em here for the cheap labor. The liberal SCOTUS already has declared they are entitled to free shit just like everyone else so wees fucked ourselves into this mess.

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