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Leonard
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posted May 09, 2021 09:23 AM
I noticed a video he made about one of the new Colt revolvers and people jumped on him, he doesn't know what he's doing or something? So, I have watched several of his videos and one thing is clear, he has some fancy guns and he likes to shoot and blow up stuff from bowling balls to ballistic gel, but this one takes the cake!
What I am very curious about is where did he get all of those special 50 BMG rounds? And, why he doesn't seem especially curious about the one that blew up on him? Anyway, watch it. He's doing pretty damned good for what he has been through.
Good hunting. El Bee
https://dailycaller.com/2021/05/07/scott-allen-deshields-jr-rifle-explosion-injuries-photo-video/
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posted May 11, 2021 09:55 AM
I saw that video. The guy was shooting a SERBU 50 BMG rifle. The SERBU is a single shot that loads by un-screwing a breech cap, inserting the round, and screwing the cap back on. Kinda like a pipe bomb.
Anyways he was shooting some old SLAP military rounds. That were "acting funny", those were his words. That might have been a clue. But he kept shooting. One of the rounds spiked over 85,000 pressure (estimated) and blew the gun up. It put a hole in his throat and nicked the jugular vein. He is very lucky to be alive.
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Leonard
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posted May 11, 2021 01:21 PM
Well, there is an old rule or suggestion that says, never shoot anybody else's handloads. As you know, a load is developed for a specific firearm. It may or may not be safe in any other gun.
Again, why ain't he concerned about this crap and he seems knowledgable enough to load his own 50BMG rounds, so why be shooting this funny stuff? If you ask me, I don't think those cut threads seemed strong enough? Maybe they should have been cut "ACME ", but that was just standard pipe thread that is designed to withstand water pressure or perhaps, steam pressure?
Anyway,
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted May 11, 2021 02:43 PM
Ok, I'll ask ........... What is a 'SLAP' round ????
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posted May 12, 2021 05:43 AM
Here's a description......
"The sabot light armor penetrator, also known as the SLAP round, is a round made for penetrating higher-level armor that normal armour-piercing rounds cannot get through. It has a polymer sabot (sometimes called a 'shoe') which allows the use of the tungsten carbide penetrator which is smaller than the original bore. "
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posted May 12, 2021 06:49 AM
Sounds spendy to just be using for target practice.
So, what's the things good for in the real world if you're not shooting at your PETA neighbor's electric car ???
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posted May 12, 2021 07:21 AM
Those rounds the dude was using were old military rounds. He was shooting a fire hydrant for shits and giggles. When rounds get old the powder can degrade and cause low and/or high pressure problems. Apparently, he found a high pressure round. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Also someone may have tampered with them to boot.
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posted May 12, 2021 10:59 AM
You know, he held it up for the camera and it didn't look corroded, in fact it appeared to look in perfect shape, kinda shiny, at a quick glance.
It's extremely rare for powder, (propellent, IMR) to degrade inside a cartridge. The shelf life for extruded nitrocellulose stick powder is usually decades. In fact, Hornady built his entire empire when he purchased tons of canister powder, and sold it in one pound paper bags. Like #3031, #4831 and "Ball C2". I'd say this really started the hand loading for casual shooters and hunters. And, all of it, until it started to exhaust the supply (maybe) ten years ago? Then he has been what they call, "newly manufactured" in places like Scotland and Australia. But, make no mistake, he built his business with stores of World War II surplus cannon powder that was already (what?) 25-30 years old.
So, if kept tightly capped and stored at cool temperatures, (such as inside already loaded 50BMG cartridges, the possibility of the powder degrading is remote for decades. I'd say 50 years is asking a lot, but it's not beyond possible. I'd worry about mercuric priming stability before those IMR canister powders. All of it, single and double based, shotgun powders included. I think it would more likely be a loading error, but it sure as hell blew up in the guy's face, didn't it?
Somebody did some pretty sketchy experimenting to come up with the 454 Cassul using different powders, a fast burning and a slow burning, in the same case. Nobody ever is supposed to do stuff like that, if you don't want to have a gun blow up in your face. But, they did and got away with it, and for sure do not try this at home, Binky!
Handloading is very safe, but not when you start to experiment, use data and exact components or revert to buying factory fodder.
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted May 12, 2021 11:31 AM
Ok ............. Thinking out loud;
He had old ammo with 'polymer' sabots. Polymer / old plastic......... and he mentioned that rounds were 'acting funny'.
Mayhap degraded plastic was building up in the lands & grooves of his barrel causing pressure to spike until the weapon failed ????
I wonder if he has developed a flinch now. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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posted May 12, 2021 12:21 PM
At 1:26 in the video he says "the SLAP rounds were acting funny" and then says one hit one and a half feet low. So the rounds were not consistent by any means. They were supposed to be military and not reloads. But who knows what happened to them in the years since they were first produced. Or how and at what temperature they were stored.
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posted May 12, 2021 06:37 PM
I don't know about that, ko ko? The thing is, you don't blow off a lot of rounds in 50 like you might do with a 22-250 for example, so no I'd rule out "plastic" residue within the bore. But then again, degraded propellent doesn't cause me to think high pressures? I'd think sub par if anything and erratic as hell. But 84K PSI is way more than any small arm ammo I ever heard of? They say 55k is pretty standard and cases like 220 Swift(factory) go nudging 60K because the case is kinda heavy duty, thicker walls, etc. And, the brass case is the weak link. Interesting that he didn't show, or I even wonder if they were able to extract the case from the barrel?
But, on the other hand, with a standard bolt action, you have those locking lugs, 2 or 3 usually, before you get them sheared off and the whole bolt coming at ya. In that respect, that screw on cap they were using really doesn't seem adequate, depending on threads as a breach face. It's easy to say, in retrospect, but there weren't any cammed over locking lugs, I don't think? He talked about that "ear" that severed his juggler, but I don't have a real clear (mental) image of the design, as to how they figured to contain normal operating pressures, and I'm guessing no matter that it's 50 cal. it still needs to stay under, let's assume, for sake of argument, between 55 and 60k psi. That round is not loaded to higher pressures, that I'm aware of?
The first thing to establish is that; was he or wasn't he using factory military surplus ammo, or not? I think the standard bullet weight is usually 750 grains, sometimes less for armor piercing because that titanium, (edit: or is it tungston?) insert doesn't weigh as much as lead. Who knows? But, he needs to find out if he has a suit against anyone, ammo or equipment?
Good hunting. El Bee
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