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Topic: Predator articles in the printed periodicals
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Leonard
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posted December 25, 2015 11:07 AM
Why I bother? Wading through something about eastern coyotes and how the technique can help those of us west of the great divide. Must be useful, the guy has 30 years experience?
Have yet to look at another one on scouting, locating and killing bobcat. You can find these gems of enlightenment in the latest American Hunter.
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Good hunting. El Bee
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Lone Howl
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posted December 25, 2015 11:54 AM
The way the hunting mags (and hunting industry in general) have latched on to the predator calling thing is silly. They dont understand it yet they give expert advice to their readers on it.
Mark
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Kokopelli
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posted December 25, 2015 12:57 PM
How to read calling articles in magazines;
Note the blatant endorsement for a product such as The Coyote Turd Cover Scent Necklace.
Note the ad next to the article for The Coyote Turd Cover Scent Necklace.
Roll your eyes and then go do something useful.
There are of course, exceptions such as our own CDude but for the most part calling articles are written by writers with limited experience calling, for the masses whose calling technique is pretty much "Hey, there's a coyote. Let's see if this call works. Blaaat Blaaat Blaaaaat. Damn, it scared him away."
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Lone Howl
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posted December 25, 2015 01:13 PM
Lance is the obvious exception.
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Cdog911
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posted December 26, 2015 07:28 PM
Thanks, guys. High praise, but I've taken a leave of absence from writing. Indefinitely. My daughter - 17 years old now - has some medical issues that prevent me from being able to travel and try new areas or take the time to build information for articles. That, and the fact that doing my job right as the parent of a child with special medical needs commands a great deal of my time and energy around my regular job. It got to the point that I was just sick and tired of every facet of my life being on someone else's deadline. I'd already shut down taxidermy work nearly three years ago - for the same reasons - and still found myself chasing someone else's schedule. Decided that calling and hunting coyotes was the means by which I could get away from the issues at home - albeit briefly - and decompress and just try to enjoy myself doing something I love to do. Have found even that to be hard when hunting alone. Grateful for the company of my friend Kevin. He knows what I'm dealing with at home. Keeps me distracted from those issues and focused on coyotes when we're out and about the countryside. Doing a lot to save my sanity. You're probably curious what kinda problem it is. My daughter experienced a sudden onset of obsessive-compulsive disorder, OCD, about four years ago. She was in the seventh grade at the time. She hasn't been in school since the first quarter of her 8th grade year and she is supposed to be a high school junior today. She is completely homebound and this is a disorder you literally have to experience firsthand in order to fully understand and appreciate what it does to a person's life. When she experiences what we refer to as "crisis", which is essentially a totally debilitating anxiety attack/ meltdown, I am the only person who can consistently talk her back down. I spend an hour or two at least three nights a week sitting with her on the hallway floor just getting her calmed down so she can regain her bearings. We have had her treated by the best doctors in the central part of the country and have had two different professionals literally tell us that they do not know how we are able to hold the family together through all of this. Has not been easy, and no real relief in sight. Continuing to write, and being able to provide a quality piece of work to my editors, just wasn't, and isn't possible anymore when my priorities are elsewhere.
Again, thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated. For me, it was never about "me" and always about the message. The equipment I use is what I have been able to afford and it isn't much because I never was much about accepting freebies.
On a lighter note, we did smoke two coyotes this morning. One for me, and one for Kevin. Mine was a back up shot after Kevin had rolled this big male charging the caller. He clipped it in the left hindleg, it went down, resurrected itself and dropped down two more gears. Came into view from where I was sitting running like its ass was on fire. Took a WAG shot at 200 yards, quartering away and to the right, and popped both lungs. Teamwork!
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booger
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posted December 28, 2015 08:51 AM
Not boot licking here, but the only predator articles I really enjoyed were from two people, Judd Cooney, and our very own Cdog...
On a side note, Lance, I empathize with you on the OCD.
After my wife's sister was murdered, her 4 sons came to live with my wife and I. One of the boys, who ironically was a 7th grader, developed OCD as traumatic result of watching his mother shot and die in front of him.
We did not know this until about 2 months after they moved in and after the doctor diagnosed it.
I can attest what it does to the individual and the family dynamics can't be really expressed in words.
This was our nephew and it about tore our guts out dealing with it...I can't imagine what it is like with your own child.
If you ever want to talk, give me a buzz.
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Lonny
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posted December 28, 2015 01:09 PM
C-Dog,
Really sorry to hear of your trials. I gotta hand it to you for keeping the ship afloat during it all.
Hang in there and I'm pulling for you and your family.
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Moe
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posted December 31, 2015 03:13 PM
On occasion I find an article to be interesting but the great majority leave me puzzled. There used to be a guy by the name of Byron Dalrymple that wrote for either Field and Stream or Sports Afield. He wrote a lot of articles about calling coyotes and he gave out the most ridiculous information about calling that I've ever read.
For the most part Koko is right.
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Leonard
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posted January 01, 2016 08:31 AM
I'm not sure why, but it seems like all these "how to" articles are very basic in nature? Do lot's of scouting, pick your stands carefully, start with sound A, and more useless advice.
I don't pretend that we do much better here, there is proprietary
stuff we don't want to share. I like to think I'm more open than others but this is a sport where you have to get out and do it.
Other than that, a rookie would be smart to hook up with an experienced caller. I had tried calling, up on the Grapevine in the sixties. Didn't really know what I was doing but I did see one coyote and a bobcat.
But, I joined a club and went out with a man that had actually killed some predators. It was eye opening and suddenly I knew what it was all about.
But, it's tough if all you have to go by is articles in magazines. Then these whores feature product mentions for everything from rifles to scopes and the type of boots you should be wearing.
Sometimes I think that's the whole purpose, to get that product highlighted; must wear this really effective CAMO pattern or you won't be successful.
Just happened to think. Cal used to write a column, in some publication. I never read it but I think he would be one exception?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Lonny
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posted January 01, 2016 09:55 AM
I don't get any pred hunting mags anymore. Pred Extreme, that was coming free for years, finally quit showing up in the mailbox. Varmint Hunter went belly-up. I don't even now what is available anymore in dedicated predator hunting magazines?
I do see the occasional pred article in the big game mags, FS and OL, normally stocked in Dr's offices. Those articles are very basic and mainly just gear run-down articles, like what caller to get, rifle, scope, decoy, camo, etc...
I read a comment by a gun/hunting writer recently that said there is not as much interest in hunting articles anymore. People are more interested in gear and "what to buy" articles. From what I see in the big hunting magazines, that would tend to be true.
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Kokopelli
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posted January 01, 2016 01:50 PM
From what I can see, most of today's hunters have little to no interest in learning hunting skills or field-craft.
They just want to buy the latest technology and drive the quad down the road looking for something to shoot.
Things like `Road Closed` or `Wilderness Area` signs don't seem to mean much anymore, either.
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Moe
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posted January 01, 2016 04:20 PM
About sums it up. But it's not just calling. When I was shooting tournament trap so many guys were looking for the magic gadget that would transform them into a AA, 27 yard shooter overnight. Adjustable stocks that they could forever be changing, drilling out the forcing cone, magic beads they could see better.......you name it.
But you have to blame the industry for part of that. Foxpro and every other call maker advertises instant success. I'm glad that we didn't have them back in the 60's. I learned first hand how effective a mouth blown call is. Ecallers offer some benefits but if you don't learn the basic skills you certainly won't do any better.
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Cdog911
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posted January 02, 2016 07:18 PM
I saw a post on Facebook earlier this week asking what it took to become a pro staff member with one of the big caller manufacturers.
My reply?
"A good place to start would be knowing what the hell you're talking about."
It's nice not to have to hold my opinion for fear of pissing off an advertiser or editor.
If you think just reading those articles is bad, try having someone spend the first half of their own article essentially plagiarizing your work, including certain phrases that you are known by, and then turn around and refute your prior work with statements that are just plain bullshit and totally indefensible or unprovable. And have the guy get three different variants of that same piece sold and published in the same year. Still a lot of bad info out there. I'm glad to guide a new caller when I can, and when asked, but I'm done volunteering my experience to people whose sum total experience in the high stakes world of coyote calling is knowing that the caller is on when the light shines. I still get a great deal of satisfaction from using a mouthcall and having to try and shoot while catching my breath. LOL
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Leonard
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posted January 03, 2016 07:47 AM
Yeah, but
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posted January 03, 2016 04:35 PM
New writer for T&PC named Hunter Bodenchuck. I'm thinking he knows his stuff. And I liked his latest article about the coyote professor. The real one.
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trapper2
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posted January 05, 2016 03:56 PM
cal, is he any kin to mike bodenchuck?
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posted January 06, 2016 06:44 AM
Mikes boy.
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trapper2
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posted January 06, 2016 02:21 PM
well he should know his stuff then, figured they were kin with that name, don't hear it that often
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Cdog911
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posted January 06, 2016 07:22 PM
That was a good piece. His results pretty well agreed with what I've always seen. One thing he didn't cover was barometric pressure though. Have a dog wagon guy locally that has been keeping pressure readings for thirty plus years and swears by it. I'd love to get hold of his books and submit those records to data testing to see if he's onto something.
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