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Bofire
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posted March 16, 2009 08:06 PM
If a guy was to come accross some new sound for a certain animal, and it worked!! how would he protect himself and make a little money? or is that just plain mean? and he should just share?
Carl
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Leonard
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posted March 16, 2009 09:05 PM
It's probably the same for any intellectual property? You can copyright, or patent, maybe? I don't think it's mean, to keep it to yourself. On the other hand, there are some people that have recorded sounds and the sounds are in the public domain, for one reason or another.
So, what you got? LB
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Tim Behle
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posted March 17, 2009 05:08 AM
Bofire,
Call Gerald Stewart. He is a good honest man, who will steer you right. Protecting the ownership rights of animals sounds is a passion with him.
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El Guapo
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posted March 17, 2009 07:05 AM
Tim is right about Gerald. I visited with him once at great length about the sound business and he knows it inside and out. And is a good guy besides. I think all of the major players are looking for sounds and are willing to pay for them. One of the biggest concerns will be what type of equipment was used to record the sound and if the quality is high enough. I have recorded and sold a couple dozen sounds now and am constantly working on more or trying to think up new ones. Some of the first stuff I recorded was with my Canon video recorder, 16 bit sound and it was decent. But now I have been using a higher end 24 bit digital recorder with a high end shotgun mic that I hijacked from FoxPro. Steve Dillon just told me the other day that they were looking at sending out a different (newer, better) model one of these days. I just barely learned how to run the one I have. Anyway Carl, if your sound is decent quality and most importanly it works, it is valuable real estate.
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Cayotaytalker
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posted March 17, 2009 11:38 AM
Hey there are guys who have real strong fealings about there sounds.I my self would injoy using some high end gear to record sounds.I have been looking around at a few web sites. Things about shot gun mics,homemade gear,parabolic mics.It's been some fun reading.I'm a Minaska owner so i get to go over on there site. I have posted a few sounds over there.Not that i'm some kind of a hot shot caller. It would be rewarding to read a post some day of how some one uesd one of my sounds.I hope this post gets some miles.Could be a good read.I my self am like a crack head when it comes to sounds!I have more now than i will use in this life LOL!!!
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Now thats prime coyote country!
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Bofire
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posted March 17, 2009 02:58 PM
Thanks everyone, I need to do some work on these sounds to check quality. If I get this all figured out when I am done I'll post the sounds free here for you guys.
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Bofire
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posted May 28, 2009 01:56 PM
Yeah, found out my "new sounds" were for sale already.
Oh well.
Carl
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El Guapo
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posted May 28, 2009 02:44 PM
please explain Carl. I take it you gave them to someone who sold them to someone else?
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Bofire
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posted May 28, 2009 04:14 PM
No, I was just ignorant and did not know the sounds I thought were new were just not very much used and other companies already had them. One sound was the bear cub "purr" sound. that sound is kick ass for coyotes and bear for me, there is also an throat sound kind of a grunt that sows use.
I thought I was the first to figger it out. oh well
Carl
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TA17Rem
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posted May 28, 2009 06:01 PM
I would think that if you recorded a sound the same as some-one else but from a different animal it wouldbe OK, plus some sort of documentation to go with it..
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Cayotaytalker
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posted May 29, 2009 12:03 PM
I have no clue what a bear cub would are should sound like.But i think i could make a good guess.I might have one on hand just under another name.As in a so called coon sound.I also feal like a lot of guys that use e-callers over look a hell of alot of good coon sounds.I think a person could get some good use out of a good k-9 pup sound.But i would ony use key parts of it.And then patch it together the way i would like it.I feal if you can get a few bits of sound with nice clean breaks your ok.So long as your sound flows and has some rythm your ok. I have two javelina sounds i use.Perhaps some of you guys that like to dink around with makeing sounds can roll with me on these thoughts. you can speed sounds up are down. And you can change the pitch a little if you like. I just can't explain how is all.Every predator caller from the old hands down to the rank novice like my self is in search of the golden sound.
You guys that have some nice sounds on cassette tapes you might want to get them into your PC.To save them.The way i do that is i just run aline from my tape player into the back of my tower.If you have a nice tape deck use the plugs in the back of it. If you have a piece of shit tape player like me just come out of your ear phone jack. I like to get my sounds into my sound edit program so i can juice them up and try to make them fit my needs and wants.My thoughts on the legal BS go's alittle something like this if you buy a used record at the slum shop it's yours to do what you want't with it.If you buy a new CD at the local record store it's yours to do what you wan't with it.Just don't copy it and sale.Are make copys and dish them out for free.And don't e-mail them.Now any thing i make with my on hands and by my on means is mine and mine alone to do with it as i feal and see fit to do with it.
Thanks Talker.
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Now thats prime coyote country!
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Rich
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posted May 29, 2009 04:54 PM
Cayotaytalker,
I have always found a certain sense of pride in calling animals with sounds I made myself. Recording a simple lip squeak, and then playing the sound on a good electronic caller has called critters for me. I have one recording that I made with a little key chain call from Fox pro that sounds just like a dang rabbit. I have a program called Cool Edit that helps me do neat things with sounds.
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Bofire
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posted May 29, 2009 07:45 PM
I agree with you Rich, I have a little sequence I recorded and put on my old Loudmouth, it is so easy with that ole caller, using a "peeper" call Rick made me.
I love that call and it works. I wish it was that easy to put sounds on my Scorpian.
Carl
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Okanagan
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posted May 31, 2009 07:31 AM
Ditto to enjoying and taking pride in calling animals with sounds I have made myself. I probably experiment more than I "should" at least if numbers of animals called were the only criterion. That reminds me of a flaming I got on the un-free speech forum for mentioning that I enjoy using binoculars to watch non-targetted animals once in awhile. I was slammed that binoculars are a serious tool in a serious pursuit, not for fun. Golly, I've had it wrong all this time! I thought that my enjoyment of the total experience was a major part of why I called animals.
So I experiment a lot and a major factor in which e-caller I bought was how easy it is to put my own sounds on the unit. I have a friend with high end recording equipment who records stuff for me. Mostly it has been either voice sounds that I make, from lip squeeks to some really weird cat sounds I've heard in the woods, or various hand calls I use in different modes.
Probably like a lot of callers, I try calls on various animals just to see what they will do sometimes. Played with caribou, black bears, lynx, barred owls, several kinds of deer etc. in the past year or so and many others over the years.
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