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Kokopelli
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posted October 09, 2023 12:44 PM
I see that the 'Religion of Peace and Tolerance' is back at it killing women & children. Pure scum.
Say what you want about us Druids ...... we don't do that shit.
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Leonard
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posted October 10, 2023 10:58 AM
Well, at least no google/youtube videos exist showing Druid atrocities; although some work tirelessly to uncover the truth.
However, to top what Islam has accomplished would be quite a feat. For the present, let's just say they are the evil world champion's at slaughter and carnage.
No, I'm kidding. You Druids sound like some Jolly Good Fellows, well met!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Leonard
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posted October 10, 2023 11:38 AM
You know, the experts have established, quite conclusively, that the Druids DID NOT BUILD STONE HEDGE! Did not understand the purpose and the technology required to construct such an edifice was much beyond their abilities.
Basically, they just considered this bunch of rocks as a cool place for picnics and a really good wind break, maybe carve their initials in the stone and other vulgar announcements.
But, you knew that, of course?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted October 13, 2023 05:45 AM
Experts are generally self-important people that have enough education to be dangerous but not enough degrees to be scientists. (And still often wrong)
There's a whole lot that they don't know about Stonehenge. Most of the answers to the how & why are at best speculation and often speculation that fits the 'expert's' agenda.
Interesting note; There is evidence of a couple of Woodhenges that predate Stonehenge. Prototype proof of concept models mayhap ????
Lots of other things in prehistory, too. Egyptian pyramids, Aztec / Incan / Mayan Temples, the Mounds in the mid-west. And the Sphinx. Can't forget that one. Until we invent time travel, ain't nobody gonna know for sure.
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Leonard
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posted October 13, 2023 08:32 AM
When you stop to think about it, there was a lot of advanced civilizations and some remarkable architecture left behind. I guess you could start with the Pyramids of course, but in terms of the volume of material moved you almost have to consider the Mound builders of the Midwest, and yet they left nothing else behind. Now that there is a mystery for ya.
There are some remarkable artifacts left by early civilizations, you could start with China, and Egypt is something you could spend a lifetime and barely scratch the surface. Easter Island? There are all kinds of questions, why? and how? The Incas? There's a mystery that will never be explained adequately. The jungle in central America is still concealing major structures and cities unknown to the civilized world. Right here in the southwest, there are ruins, cliff dwellings, the Anasazi and I've just barely scratched the surface.
I've often wondered, poking around in the desert and the mountains, if there is anywhere in which I am the first person to step, and I have the feeling that I am not, by a long shot. The history of the Americas goes back at least 14,000, maybe 17,000 years. They have done excavations far down in south America and dated remains from the earliest land bridge, and imagine walking the entire coast, what the hell is that? Must be 6-7000 miles? All while finding something to eat, a mastodon here and there. Some civilizations like the Clovis people have left nothing behind besides a few jim dandy points and an eternal puzzle as to exactly why they fashioned those unique points the way they did. I know, when I do some poking around, especially after a rain is when to find artifacts and meteorites. I'm always stuffing my pockets as a sort of dual purpose while chasing coyotes and mule deer.
Always looking for "stuff" while hunting. And, in all my years, I always kinda envied the people that stumble on a body. You know, like after a fire bushes along the road are exposed and people find remains and it's just luck. But, then I did find a body and it was like fulfilling an ambition, a reward for all of my tramping in the woods.
So, what the hell were we talking about? Yeah, Druids never had much to say, near as I can tell?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted October 13, 2023 11:12 AM
Actually, the Druids had a great deal to say. If people today realized how much of the Christian Religion had Druid origins they would be amazed. As Christianity moved across Europe it absorbed many of the local customs and beliefs rather than compete with them. Ever wonder why so many Holidays / Holy Days fall so close to the Solstice or the Equinox ??? Druid origins.
Before he retired, Dean Swanson was the Director of Discovery Park, the Archelogy / Anthropology arm of Eastern Az. University. He gave open to the public lectures on Wed. nights and we had some interesting conversations. My contention is that the timeline from the land bridge to building temples in South America is seriously wrong.
Picture the migration from the frozen north across the bridge, and down the Wash. / Ore. rainforest. Pretty miserable. Now into Northern Calif. and then the Sacramento River Delta country. This area had to have been Paradise for the early people. Freshwater river, the ocean, mountain foothills. They had no reason to go farther for a bunch of generations. Deserts to the south and the east. Rough going and until the population exhausted the resources there was no reason to.
Add to this the need to learn by trial & error the edible & non-edible plants and critters and the whole migration timeline doesn't make sense.
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Leonard
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posted October 13, 2023 12:32 PM
Maybe so, but carbon dating says they were there, and the Kontiki narrative, rafts drifting on the currents doesn't account for the numbers, re: Machu pichu (my spellcheck never heard of it) and anyway, let's say there wasn't some rising and falling and a land bridge wasn't involved. Then what?
I don't know, lots of data supporting that coastal migration. Until something a little more believable comes along, I think it makes a working theory.
Here's the thing, as you say, a paradise and you are comfortable and put down roots, but here comes the riff raff. And they are not welcome....so they do an end around and continue south, where upon, guess what, they meet more unwelcoming, maybe they dispute the situation and maybe whichever is weaker goes south where it's unclaimed land.
Our vision of Pueblo people and the raiders causing them to dwell in cliffs and this is only a couple thousand years ago, if that and most of it more like 500 years when they moved into the neighborhood, like Navajo, or even more recent, the Sioux, who owned the northern plains had migrated from Minnesota less than 300 years ago, yet they were victors, and booted out Crows, Shoshone and others that had been there far longer. It's winner take all and that's within contact, not many thousands of years. So, a dynamic situation where might makes right. And all the way inland and continuing through the jungles, I don't see any other likely scenario? Starships?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted October 13, 2023 05:03 PM
Probably not Starships.
My feeling is simply that the migrations started much earlier than the land bridge. Mayhap crossing an ice bridge ??? Or, if the Chumash tribe could paddle dugouts 26 miles to Catalina Island then kayaks should have been able to make it from Russia to Alaska.
As far as carbon dating, it's a wonderful tool but it still needs intact organic material that usually decomposes in most environments.
The fact remains that we barely know what we don't know.
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Leonard
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posted October 13, 2023 05:57 PM
Well, there are ways and just for instance. I found an obsidian arrowhead that must have been laying undisturbed for quite some time because it had considerable white oxidation on the up side while the down side was pure black. I think they can gauge how long it had been there based on the extent of oxidation. Until I heard this, I thought it was probably like hard water deposits, but then again rainwater is generally soft water, but a lot of the soil is alkaline so hell, I don't know, other than the fact that this particular point is basally notched and all things being equal it's kind of a trend indicator, and associated with things like scorched wood in the same site that can be carbon dated, stuff like that. Anyway, I've seen the same thing on knapped tools made out of Jasper and chert.
It's a wonder I have the time for a few stands!
Good hunting. El Bee
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posted October 17, 2023 12:05 PM
Amazing what you find out coyote hunting out in the desert. I have found Clovis and Martis points made from basalt. These are all atlatle and what most people call spear points. Martis where before the Washoe which were before the Piute and Shoshone peoples. Fascinating stuff you stumble across out in the desert. And yes I have found a few exposed bones and skulls that I did rebury so they didn't turn into a skull with a candle on top of it. No respect from so many out there.
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