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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 06, 2023 05:41 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I have 3 different people messaging me.

One is called Larry James. One is Cedar Waxwing, and the other is kodfish55. And they talk about Porn stash, and Skinny, who might be one of those Rambo guys called Six-something?

By far the one most frequent is Cedar waxwing and he appears friendly, but I question where he seems to get his insider info?

Larry James is hostile, really scares me!

and kodfish is negative but only had one email from him.

So, anybody have an opinion or any history? Who hangs out over there? I don't. Nothing there that interests me; I already know all I need to know about AR15's for coyotes and if a 223 will kill a coyote....the answer is maybe

So, that's it.

Oh! yeah! What about wounded rabbit for coyotes? That question was asked and answered before most of their wannabees were out of short pants.

It's no damned wonder the site is drying up. But, I do not care. What the hell Dave is doing there is completely beyond me? I just learned that Mock is gone, he (in my dealings, few) he seemed like a typical PMS asshole.

I hope this isn't considered discussing PM on this site If so I have that other one (Coltrane?) on my ass, you know, the one with the second warning? What about him?

So, if you respond, just use initials as a code, they won't ever figure it out.

Good hunting. El Bee

[ April 06, 2023, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted April 06, 2023 06:39 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
When Merlin consulted The Lady In The Lake about his foe Mab the advice he was given was "When we are forgotten, we cease to exist."
Merlin banished Mab from his mind and she faded away.

Good advice then ............. Good advice now.

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Dan
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Icon 1 posted April 06, 2023 07:26 PM      Profile for Dan   Email Dan         Edit/Delete Post 
Do you think Mr Waxwing is a coyote hunter? Could he be just an internet keyboard commando? But, could be the actual owner of PMS.
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Icon 1 posted April 07, 2023 03:40 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Some could be owners of some company/salesmen and only can sell their products on Predator masters. I think you are hurting their sales Leonard. Mule team six comes to mind just salesmen that get a piece of the action for shit that gets sold. But hey Bucks/Bears loves those guys so they can't be all bad. LOL

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 07, 2023 10:51 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not very interested in Kumbaya, and all the, whatever it is, camaraderie, band of brothers shit. All I know and truly believe is that I have no desire of friendship, another message board with similar interests, at least superficially, because this site is not monetized in the same way as PMS. As has been stated a number of times, I do not make money off of or because of this Board. Rather, it costs me money every year to talk about trivial stuff and predator hunting in general. When I reflect on the about 55 years in grade, as they say in the brown boot army.

AS my tongue in cheek sig line says; I have been around the friggin' block. I've killed more than my share of predators. The one we considered to be a predator and rather rare because they do not easily come to a call is the badger, I'm pretty sure I've killed somewhere between 15 and 20 and that is an entire lifetime devoted to casually encountering those tough little critters. Trivia I've mentioned before is that I have never had a bullet exit a badger, whatever the reason and circumstance. They are just tough, and in my opinion, particularly difficult to skin. Be that as it may, where I was going with this is I'm thinking of those 4 guys with the military attitude that call themselves something similar to the Seals team six but I didn't pay close enough attention. You know who I mean? None of them appears to be over 40 years old so again, as we used to say in the brown boot army, I was killing lots of coyotes when they were shitting yellow. That's not to say they may know what they are doing, but the swagger doesn't prove anything to me? If I may; I've been there, done that and got the tee shirt.

All in good humor, to our Lurkers out there in cyberspace....okay?

Anyway, what the hell do they want and apparently, they want to "shut down Huntmasters" for some vague reason that mystifies me? We aren't in it for the money. As I understand the situation: THEY ARE!

Well, good luck with that. It's been tried and I don't know a thing about Redfrog's estate, did he die quite well off? What the hell was his occupation before PMS boss? I never heard?

Well this is a rambling dialogue and it's past time to cut it short so please excuse the length; old farts tend to do that stuff, or so I hear?

So, who are these folks on the other side and what's their story.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted April 07, 2023 12:32 PM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
To my knowledge none of the Mule team six have any military experience, they just watch a lot of war movies and like to dress the part. Then fool the kids thinking they hotshot coyote killers. They stockpile their coyotes for filming, making the kids believe they called all those coyotes in and killed em with their special rifles with suppressors. I believe all the special gear they use has to be bought through them, big bulky Bino pack that rest on your chest, backpack with built in gun scabbard, not sure what they carry in the pack, extra drawers perhaps. Then they got the special half gili suite or hoddie. Special built rifles their own creation, lol Everything has some sort of number instead of a name like most crap. (MA-5-bbrp-crap) Some of them hunted with Cal T. not sure why as they don't hunt to control population but to make movies. One guy has long bushy hair like the main on a lion sure could use a hair cut. LOL I also found out they will stack round hay-bails in certain locations for cover on there calling stands, use the bales for cover to drive in then set up. One vid. they had two coyotes come in, one got shot then 3 of the guys sat there and argued about who should shoot the other one as it was on way in. After the kills then they stand there and re-live there stand after everyone seen it all take place on the camera. LOL waste of time. They don't mess around with difficult coyotes either, just pack up and leave so they basically just skimming cream off the top. They or the family has a few big ranches and they also make dead piles with the cattle for hunting over, not much of a challenge there. They just learned to reload a few years back and act like they invented it, reminds me of Lance. They think the 22-250 is the cats ass when it comes to a coyote cartridge when a 22-250 ackley would serve them better in that open country. They got a shit load of those black rifles and after a lot of money think they figured out the AR in 223 isn't the answer, they should of just come here and asked one of the pro's about them and saved a bunch of money. LOL I think they also into shooting heavy bullets in their 22-250's IMO is stupid as hell, they don't shoot far enough to gain anything by doing so and basically you just got a 223 again cause bullet travels so dam slow, nothing gained!
Bino packs? Why would you have four guys using them on a stand the reflection and moving around just gives you away? I seen that happen firsthand when I did a calling contest, coyotes I was calling in kept locking up on us. They saw something and it took a while to figure out my partner was using his bino's the whole time on stand and the coyotes was spotting him. Asked my partner to wait to end of a stand before he looked around with his Bino's and he did and we started killing coyotes, just not enough to win the contest but would have had a dam good chance if he didn't screw up the others. Last contest I ever did with a partner.

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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 07:18 AM      Profile for Dan   Email Dan         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't think being a veteran is a prerequisite for being a coyote hunter. Or, for that matter, for running a dying website.

I don't see a problem with snowman or skinny, but the rest are a joke. You would think they would pick people that had a good head on their shoulders instead of ass kissing morons.

The place is dead, half of the posts are by the admin or the mods talking to each other. As to members, they are sitting on the bank waiting for the fish to come by.

Most of the staff are guys that came along in the 2011-2015 era, they don't have a clue what made PMS what was in the 2002 to 2010 time slot. The ones that were around in the early days slept thru it. So now its broken, and they don't have what it takes to fix it. Guys that were there then like DAA have their own agenda and PMS ain't it. The MOD's, what can you say about them? Irreverent?

They actually have paid advertisers! Where in the hell do you find people stupid enough to advertise on a site that has no members. They say they have 55.000, I say that is a lie based on signups that never came back, or left years ago. Active is closer to 50. LOL

[ April 08, 2023, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Dan ]

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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 07:36 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Hey ..... Could somebody go 'over there' and find out if a gain twist .223 barrel on my Mini-14 would make it a 300 yard coyote killin' machine ??

Thanx !!!!

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Razz]

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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 07:40 AM      Profile for Dan   Email Dan         Edit/Delete Post 
It will, BUT, only if you shoot them in the right eye (the same eye you use to look thru your scope)
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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 08:23 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
So? Some of your narrative seems believable, most of it. Binos on a coyote stand? I can say probably never have I done it, not useful.

Well, nothing wrong with a 22-250 that a Ackley Improved wouldn't cure. If they have swallowed the koolaid about those long for caliber bullets, that's kind of a failure of concept. Coyote hunting should not be a long range effort, the idea is to get them in close to where everybody says is the average kill inside 100 yards. But there is lots of chatter about banging steel at long range and heavy bullets with a high BC are the ticket. But like binos, launching long heavy bullets at coyotes is kind of stupid if it's done intentionally. Likely quite a few passthroughs and cripples, so that shit makes no sense. I'm assuming you are providing accurate information?

I just can't figure the angles? For any of the players, from PS, (porn stach) to the Rambo quintuplets?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 09:50 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Well so much for that idea ........... I'm left handed.
Guess that I'll be hunting coyotes again this year with the recurve & pointed sticks.

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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 09:50 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
Leonard Mule team six is plastered all over u-tube, I watched a few and got sick of it, too much stupid shit like you said don't make any sense. Also have a few buddies that know them better than I and how I found out about the haybale blinds and shooting over stockpiled dead cows but you can also see that in one of their u-tube vids. Not much of the crap they do is kept a secret.

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I don't think being a veteran is a prerequisite for being a coyote hunter.
I think you missed the point and probably never seen one of their vid.s. No problem with a guy wearing camo when needed but these guys go way overboard if you ask me. They dress up like a Swat team or seal team six like they on some special mission. LOL Thats how they got the name Mule team six. Most of their equipment has a military name they made up. Like the rifle is called a platform or M-5as-1164 ect. They can call it what ever they like but its way overboard stupid! They go coyote calling and think they on some special seal team opps..

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 08, 2023 06:46 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
OK, and ko ko sent me an email the other day. It said something like: Nobody ever played NAVY as a kid. Intimidating, (wrong word) that everybody played ARMY, which is pretty true. Where I come from, anyway. But it's just a dig at our fellow veterans that served in the Navy. Inter service rivalry.

I'm kind of casual about camo. The latest style isn't very important and I will commit a fopa by mixing tops and bottoms if I feel like it. Real hard core like Victor won't even wear camo pants, just Levi's or similar.

But, the thing is, stand selection is way more important than wearing that hi tech Kieu? what's that real popular high end brand? I don't have any, myself. I can make due with anything, and I wear lots of military camo too, sometimes.

Anyway, here's my confession. I really don't like hunting with the guys that use some type of AR "platform". For some reason they like to stick their rifle in the back with the safety on a loaded chamber. I don't mind a bolt handle up, it's as good as a safety, as long as it's pointing sideways. I'm just a fossil and I don't like hunting with a so called assault weapon. AR15's have caused so much grief within the hunting community, I could do without them, EXCEPT FOR THE SLIPPERY SLOPE ANGLE.

But, we can't relax about AR15 because that moron Biden is already calling for SEMI-AUTO BANS, and half the population doesn't understand the distinction.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 02:48 AM      Profile for NVWalt           Edit/Delete Post 
I got to agree with you Leonard. A long shot for me was a 100 yarder. Almost all the coyotes I have ever called and shot could have been handled by a shotgun but I just liked using my rifle. Shotgun, sometimes, pistol, more frequently than a shotgun. In fact if I was competent with a bow and stick I could have probably scored on more than a few but I just don't use archery gear.
And hauling a boatload of crap around with you to a stand I always thought was pretty stupid. I did use a pad to sit on that the turkey hunters use a lot cause of stickers in the ass and the cold from the snow in the winter.
Can't help but get a good laugh at stuff I have seen people think will instantly turn them into coyote wake-em and stack-em coyote predator control experts. When common sense about what you are doing works so much better.
On and on and on.

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 06:01 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
I been down in your country few times Leonard and agree when calling in all those bushy areas you don't need camo, coyote sneaks in and should be dead as soon as it shows its self. Same for Bino's in your country not much use for them on a 100-yard stand or less.
But in other parts of the country camo does give you a bit of a edge when calling more open country, better to blend in than look like a big object that just don't fit in.
I learned a thing this winter about night calling over snow, don't wear white camo as it sticks out like a sore thumb at night. I started to wear dark colors and may switch over to something all black.
At night a coyote will let you know if it sees you, they will lock their eyes on you and not move another step or make a big circle trying to get down wind. Had one coyote go as much as 3/8 of a mile to get down wind of me because it didn't want to go near the road.
Even though its dark out and makes them easier to call they still use a lot of caution if they have a little age on them. Night calling hear is a little different game and still learning from the coyotes as they the best teacher.
Bino's have their place here and in more open country, But should be used at the end of a stand to look for any Peaker's that just show the tip of their ears or part of their head and farther off they are the harder it is to pick them up with the naked eye and glassing with a scope just sucks.
Another good time to use Bino's is at night if calling under a full moon or with lights you can scan the area and pick out a coyote roughly 300-400 yards out, like said it sucks trying to scan with a scope. From what I can tell a coyotes night vision they can see from roughly 400 yards out and the darker the sky the less they can see. Something to also keep in mind if you are going back after one that was missed before from a multiple stand.
As far as playing Navy goes the wife's battleship blew the hell out of my Pt. boat every time. [Big Grin]

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 06:04 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
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Can't help but get a good laugh at stuff I have seen people think will instantly turn them into coyote wake-em and stack-em coyote predator control experts.
Exactly why I don't like Pro staffers or salesmen. (Hunting writers) They plaster the Net. with all there good stands or edited vid.s deceiving those that just don't know and they very, very seldom show any bad stands.

[ April 09, 2023, 06:07 AM: Message edited by: TA17Rem ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 09:02 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Something else that should be obvious to seasoned coyote hunters is that those videos are very scripted and the planning is extensive.

An example is the mention of dead piles and setting up in prime, virgin, and behind fences and calling animals that have never or seldom have been pressured. That will get you some footage that makes these guys look like experts and you never see a miss or a get away.

I'm still chewing on reports of a coyote stand with binos stuck to your face! We need to get to the bottom of this! It's just as bad to have them strapped to your chest. Makes me think some of our Nimrods are a little short on concept. While scanning way out there, things can be happening right in front of you! I've made stands where the coyote runs right past the truck, not even a pause while coming to the call. And, just as many will swear that the vehicle must be so concealed and so far from the action or you will spook all but maybe this years pups? If you are lucky!

Anyway, my point is that the people that are motivated toward taping a stand have a vastly different attitude than, just for instance, a couple guys on a contest. In that case, you do not want distractions like some dink waving the camera all over the landscape. Then, the crew is giving the shooters a heads up, loud enough for the coyote to hear that isn't even in sight, as yet, and maybe never will.

I admit to not having much interest in filming a coyote stand. I'm there to kill coyotes. When the cameras are rolling, some one is going to be telling the shooter to wait until they can get the kill documented. This stuff takes a different attitude than my mindset. Yeah, I've done it, and I'm not a fan. I do not want to attract or recruit new hunters.

I could go down memory lane, where nobody knew what the hell we were doing. Things have seriously changed. And everybody with a half a dozen stands under their belt is an expert, and quite willing to share their knowledge. Umm, like kit up with binoculars and now, this is like WILDLIFE VIEWING in a NATURE PRESERVE, and it may well be? Hell, you can always splice stuff and let's face it, one coyote looks pretty much like another.

OK I've probably made my point and if not nobody cares anyway....besides my buddy ko ko, he's my "wing man!" Where was I going with this? Never mind.

Good hunting. El Bee

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No worries, Koko will get to the bottom of all this and get it straighten out.

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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 06:06 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Kokopelli's been bobbing around all day in a canoe poking arrows at carp.

Here's a reason to carry binos; Hunting out of state with out of state plates. Walking into or out of a stand and you see some deer. Just to check them out you put the rifle scope on them. Nice deer. A couple of bucks. Unfortunately you were seen by a rancher 'aiming a rifle at the out of season deer'. By the time it's told around the coffee shop that out of state guy is out there trying to poach deer.
Much better to use binos to scan stuff than a rifle scope. Trust me on this.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted April 09, 2023 08:51 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
A bit of a reach, on that, ko ko. Yes, I have heard of ranchers tying a bandana around the neck of their horses, and maybe writing COW on their stock. But really! Out of staters are serious, it’s the weekend locals that they should be concerned with.

Good hunting. El Bee 🐝

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Icon 1 posted April 10, 2023 03:45 PM      Profile for Jay Nistetter   Email Jay Nistetter         Edit/Delete Post 
Pretty much agree with everything.
I'm old school because basically of my age.
Other than a firearm plus revolver and a couple of calls, the only other things I carry to a stand are a 3-legged camp stool, camera, pack of cigarettes and lighter.

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Yeah, Border Patrol has encouraged me to discretely carry a handgun when I'm hunting down near the border with my bow.
It's a brave new world. Not always for the better.

Soapbox alert;
Now about those smokes .............
You might want to research how to read the info on a heart monitor. B/P, pulse rate, O2 levels, etc.
No one will tell you squat about what's going on when you're laying on a gurney in E.R. other than "You have non-specific abnormalities in your blood work." I will never forget that phrase.
End of lecture.

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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2023 06:41 AM      Profile for TA17Rem   Email TA17Rem         Edit/Delete Post 
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Now about those smokes ..
I'm in same boat as Jay I carry a pack of smokes along as well and even smoke on stand. On stand if a coyote gets down wind of it, it's going to smell me regardless, you can't fool a coyote nose.
Been smoking since I was 16 years old and the year the wife got sick, I made a doctor's appointment for a checkup. x-rays, blood work and few other things. The report came back clean. A few weeks before wife passed away, I had another checkup due to a a pain just below my chest which turned out to be bad heartburn. I had x-rays done again as well as blood work and a new doctor. The Doctor was really surprised with my results and wanted me to come in every six months so he could check me over (do follow ups) as he couldn't figure out why I was so healthy for someone that smokes for as long as I have. Sure, the crap will probably kill me someday, but not today.

Little bow hunting story for Koko:
Years ago, when i use to bow hunt, I'd set up along a fence line that was 100 yards from a large woodlot and just sit or lay on the ground and wait for the deer to come out just before dark. I was smoking at the time and had a little button buck come out of the woodlot and it got to my down wind and for some reason it took interest in the smoke from my cigarette and approached me to about 15 yards and just stood there. I picked up a small dirt clump and kind of tossed it at the button buck and it ran off into the field to feed. Year later I'm set up in same spot laying on the ground and here came a nice little 6-point buck that took interest in the smoke from my cig., Came to about 20 yards and I took a couple of pictures this time and then off the buck went. Another season has passed and here I am set up on the fence-line again smoking a cig. and all of a sudden here comes a nice 12 pt, zooming in on my scent. I slowly lower my hand to the ground and put my smoke out and got my bow ready and took a broadside shot when deer got about 20 yards away. I saw the arrow fly through the field behind the deer and thought the bugger jumped the string and I missed. [Eek!] The deer ran into the field and then just dropped like it got hit in head by a hammer and then I noticed all the blood on the ground, oh my there was a lot of it! The rack is now on the wall and my biggest bow kill to date.

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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2023 08:31 AM      Profile for Jay Nistetter   Email Jay Nistetter         Edit/Delete Post 
Tip:
Back in the trapping days, when setting a leghold we'd light a menthol cigarette and gently lay it over the dusted pan and let it burn down after leaving. Worked great for coyotes and cats.

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Understanding the coyote is not as important as knowing where they are.
I usually let the fur prime up before I leave 'em lay.

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Icon 1 posted April 11, 2023 09:47 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
[Smile] Yeah, when I was trapping I emptied the contents of an ashtray into a dirthole set and put in a urine post set about 25 feet away just for yucks & giggles. Two days later I caught a double there.

Caught my share of coyotes with scents from the fishing aisle at Wally World, too.

Had a few coyotes (that I know of) come in from the downwind back when I was smoking.

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