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Author Topic: Chukars opened earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 19, 2021 04:16 AM                   Yesterday chukar season opened. We just drove up one road and the first thing got a grouse in a spot we've never seen grouse. then up around the corner got into some chukar. Got one out of the mess. Drove to the end of the road and didn't see one grouse where they usually are. On the way out pulled over for a out of state pickup (Oregon) guy wouldn't look us in the eye say thanks. Ran into a guy and young gal (daughter) walking up the road with a shotgun no birds in hand. Got down almost out and jumped more chukars. Took off after them one flew up and low and behold got it on the wing. Took the dog to find it. Not a bad morning for me. But I also was holding the 20 ga. Probably the only birds I get this season. Don't shoot enough to be a good wing shooter anymore. Yes my shoulder told me all about the treatment last night. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted September 19, 2021 07:15 AM                      Chukar; Big quail from Hell. Chase 'em to the top and then watch them fly to the next bottom. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7580 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 19, 2021 09:38 AM                       Boy! That's exactly right, ko ko! Chucker are possibly the most difficult and challenging game bird we have. Sage grouse are difficult but for different reasons. Mountain quail, same thing, spend hours climbing and suddenly, when you least expect it, they flush. Without a bird dog, we pretty much solved CA Valley Quail; run them and block them toward some kind of elevation and stop; then take one more step. Easy Peezie! Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted September 19, 2021 10:22 AM                      Actually ........... most difficult bird to hunt would be the Himalayan Snowcock in the Ruby Mountains of Nevada. Extremely wary, very skittish and often found above 9000'. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7580 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 19, 2021 11:51 AM                       I've passed by the Ruby Mountains hundreds of times and was unaware of any snow cock, Himalayan or otherwise. Now you tell me! Good hunting. El Bee edit: besides, I did say, "possibly"? [ September 19, 2021, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ] -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted September 19, 2021 08:37 PM                      Well, if you had just stopped at a gas station to ask for directions to the Cat House you wouldn't have had to drive past those mountains so often. Do what Paul & I do when we're in Nevada; Pull into the gas station or diner and announce "Hi, my name is Leonard Bosinski and I'm looking for that brothel that I heard about around here somewhere." Works for us. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7580 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Paul Melching Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate" Member # 885 posted September 20, 2021 05:29 AM                   coming out of the bunker for a minute , on the birds I wont hunt them without a dog its a waste of time Shoot six quail and lose 5 in a bush chukar or Hungarian partridge are a blast! Pheasant are easy and pretty tasty ! Never been to a brothel but when I do go you can bet Ill drop Leonard's name and tell them I have a free pass from KoKo itchy dick from Safford ! back to the bunker, call me when you need my rifle !!!!! -------------------- Those who value security over liberty soon will have neither ! Posts: 4188 | From: The forest ! north of the dez. | Registered: Jul 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 20, 2021 09:56 AM                       I've been in several of those Nevada cat houses. Nanc was always a little uncomfortable when ever discussing such things with girlfriends. Most of them were shocked and said; and you believe him? I did a lot of hunting in Nevada with Pat who wasn't married and not your average charmer, he would want to check out a house of ill repute, when all the coyotes were skinned. Well, what was I to do, wait outside in the cold? No, just curiosity got me inside and after establishing that I was just with my horny friend, they could be friendly and offer coffee or sell me one of those half pint beers. I even watched Neal Armstrong set foot on the moon with a college girl prostitute, while all the other girls went to their rooms, and Pat went with the one with the biggest tits. I don't know if I'm cheap or what but besides being married for 44 years, I don't believe in paying for sex, now that she has passed away. She never told me not to go into a whorehouse, but it was obvious that she didn't know what to make of it. And, those kind of "girlfriends" sowing doubt didn't help much. Eventually, Pat got married. It's no doubt a unique relic of the old west to have a red light whorehouse on the other side of the tracks, quite literally. I think there are around 21 counties in Nevada and all but two allow legal prostitution, of course, Clark and (is it?) Storey? Reno and Las Vegas. It's not quite the same "mystic" in a doublewide. The first one I ever entered was Ash Meadows, which has a landing strip and was reputedly owned by Sinatra? Actually had a wrought iron black cat mounted on the roof over the front door. Even had an authentic black Madame. And the girls were first class. That's where I watched that moon landing. I think Ash Meadows is some historic thing, now a days, legit? That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 20, 2021 01:23 PM                   One chukar today. Did see others but already had a big head start and I wasn't going up a steep face on loose rock. Nothing yesterday didn't even see a grouse. Just one doe and fawn. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged NVWalt Does not claim to be overly bright! Member # 375 posted September 20, 2021 01:38 PM                   Good ol chuckars. Lot of work unless you catch them on the road and can ground sluice them. The other type of birds were still plentiful in Nevada when I left there with just a few I knew very well and were friends. Even had a sister in law that worked the ol Sagebrush ranch til she married my brother in law. My daughter almost took a job at Moonlight Ranch keeping books for the people that own those places.Ended up doing books as head of Keno for a casino in Carson that for some strange reason went through a few owners and belly up. Funny how the Mafia types don't exist in Nevada. On the subject of binocs I have found most cheap 7x35 easiest to use either birding or just glassing for dogs. And cheap ones don't make you cry when you mess them up but you can't brag about owning cheap glass if you wear LLBean LOL. -------------------- Support Communism and help destroy the United States of America ! VOTE DEMOCRAT. "In the end, they aren't coming after me. They are coming after you!" D.Trump Posts: 636 | From: Tellico Plains, TN | Registered: Aug 2004  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 21, 2021 03:38 AM                   We bought a pair of Swaro binoculars quit a few years back. 8x10. I use them not big or heavy. Other half bought a pair of Vortex razors. Now this year I've used them and they are clear for me. Last couple of years I had a hard time getting them to clear up for me. Nikon won't touch them anymore. For some reason their quality has went down the tubes at least for us. Scopes or binoculars doesn't matter. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged Kokopelli SENIOR DISCOUNT & Dispenser of Sage Advice Member # 633 posted September 21, 2021 04:59 AM                      A friend of mine, who's a very successful bowhunter, has a routine of setting up on a ridge at daybreak with the sun to his back and glassing the opposite hillside then moving to the next glassing position until he spots the critter he wants to stalk. Once he's got his animal spotted he'll 'put it to bed' meaning that he'll watch it bed down and then try to plan a stalk on it. If he doesn't like the situation for a stalk he'll back off and come back the next day to spot it again. His recommendation has always been to buy decent glass and mount it on a good tri-pod with an adapter. It's amazing the difference the tri-pod makes compared to propping the binoculars up on your knees. -------------------- And lo, the Light of the Trump shown upon the Darkness and the Darkness could not comprehend it. Posts: 7580 | From: Under a wandering star | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged Paul Melching Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate" Member # 885 posted September 21, 2021 06:30 AM                   That's a shame about Nikon they were always good to me haven't bought a pair in years must have gone Chinese ! -------------------- Those who value security over liberty soon will have neither ! Posts: 4188 | From: The forest ! north of the dez. | Registered: Jul 2006  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 22, 2021 08:15 AM                       And yet, I have this recollection of Paul swearing by Burris as the best guldarn scope on the planet? I own a 6X24 Burris that has been on, and off several rifles over the years, doesn't even have an illuminated reticle is how old it is, but for certain colony work, it's adequate. Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Paul Melching Radical Operator Forum "You won't get past the front gate" Member # 885 posted September 23, 2021 04:43 AM                   Leonard we were talking binos all my rifles have Burris scopes none of my rifles have binos !LOL -------------------- Those who value security over liberty soon will have neither ! Posts: 4188 | From: The forest ! north of the dez. | Registered: Jul 2006  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 23, 2021 06:36 AM                   -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 23, 2021 06:39 AM                   Both sides of the shoulder are sore now. Every 3 months go in for a cortisone shot in the bad shoulder. Got the 3 monther yesterday. Have a real good bruise on the top of the bicep muscle from not having the 20ga in the right spot on the shoulder when I shot the other day. I have a ton of scar tissue in this shoulder and he just couldn't find the sweet spot to get the med in. Fun day in paradise. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 23, 2021 09:49 AM                       My mistake, Paul! I was thinking "optics" in general terms. You slice it a bit thinner than I....which is ok, generally. SHEESH! -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 23, 2021 12:13 PM                       Getting back to Chucker. I do not ever remember getting a limit on Chucker? What the hell is it, anyway? I'm not worried, I'll never get there. I still think Mountain Quail are one of the most difficult upland birds. At least around here, in the San Gabriel Mountains, which are by themselves, among the most challenging terrain I've ever experienced, and I've been up a friggin' mountain or two! Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 24, 2021 12:29 PM                   Nothing today. Didn't see a bird one. Tired and a sore aching flexor muscle in the top of the right leg. Just had to see where that stupid skid trail went. It went straight up and up. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged Leonard HMFIC Member # 2 posted September 24, 2021 02:28 PM                       I remember one time, way up in northern Nevada, we came upon a sort of Abattoir. Really remote this place was, you can't find a more remote place in the lower 48, I'm pretty damned sure of that! So, anyway. What the hell was going on? There were old 55 gallon drums and they were plumb full of offal from Sage Grouse, or Sage Hens, take your pick. I'm not talking about a few dozen, and these are large birds, just guessing but the might approach the size of a snow goose, perhaps? From what we could see, it looked like somebody had processed (who knows) we didn't count legs and wings but this was a bunch. Years later, and maybe I knew it at the time, this was where that Clyde asshole shot and killed a couple game wardens while he was trapping bobcat and potting a couple mule deer for camp meat. This is remote country, you can believe it and sometimes these birds can be pretty stupid. For instance, I have waded into a flock once or twice while retrieving coyotes and cats at night. They don't even hardly move out of your way. I'm not suggesting all this evidence was due to braining them with a club, I just don't know how someone managed to kill so many, I just know that the coyotes were getting into them, scattering wings, heads and legs, etc. Kind of a puzzling situation, it was. And this was quite a few years ago although I can't say for certain if it was before during or after that warden killing episode? There weren't any vehicles around when we happened on it, so I'd just have to speculate. I've hunted Sage Grouse around Mono Lake, when they had a short season years ago. They flush far out and not like any other upland game bird I've ever seen before. More like an eagle, kind of a ponderous take off, big slow flapping and not much effort to gain elevation, which was a distinct problem. It was like they used the brush, hardly got up in the air until they were way out there, ya know, out of range, and you needed a full choke to attempt a shot, if you had one? Me? I never even killed one but 2 or 3 in our party did, to be sure the wardens were documenting everything at their choke....I mean check points. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Good hunting. El Bee -------------------- EL BEE Knows It All and Done It All. Don't piss me off! Posts: 31462 | From: Upland, CA | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged earthwalker Cultural Editor & middleweight arm wrestling champion/Intermountain Region Member # 4177 posted September 24, 2021 03:50 PM                   I learned with sage grouse the minute you kill them you're too late in the cleaning of them it seems like. Leave them any length of time and they'll taste like rubberized sagebrush. -------------------- another long hot smoky summer coming Posts: 1105 | From: Intermountain region | Registered: Jul 2012  |  IP: Logged

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