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Paul Melching
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posted May 21, 2020 05:06 AM
Had the fireplace all clean and put up till next winter, runnin a fire this AM yesterday was colder than a well diggers ass could not do it again today !
It was 30 this morning and only 60 in the casa ! too cold for me !
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Leonard
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posted May 21, 2020 07:37 AM
They got this gas, butane or propane that is capable of heating several rooms, not just the one where the fireplace is.
For efficiency, it beats the hell out of a fireplace. You should look into it!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted May 21, 2020 09:23 AM
I have one it was on the other side of the property Not makin that trip in the dark !
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Leonard
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posted May 21, 2020 12:56 PM
I new you'd have an excuse!
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earthwalker
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posted May 21, 2020 02:32 PM
Last few days have a fire night and morning. Just enough at night to warm the house then let it go out and mornings the same way.
Sounds like by morning will need it. Suppose to snow over night but not stick. Hope we don't lose the power again.
The other morning at 0230 we were up and moving plants into the garage because a transformer blew and took our power out for 4 hours or so.
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Paul Melching
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posted May 22, 2020 04:49 AM
I go to bed the house is 82 I get up its in the low 60's ! It is very well insulated and retains is heating and cooling well I'm not getting this ! My petunias made it thru my calla
s are gorgeous my geranium's are toast !
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Leonard
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posted May 22, 2020 07:51 AM
Nobody will miss those stinky geraniums! I have one, in a clay pot that my son gave me 6 or 8 years ago. The damned thing just won't die, but I keep hoping! What anybody sees in geraniums is beyond me? Keep them pruned level with the ground and you might get lucky!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted May 23, 2020 04:08 AM
This is the first time for geraniums up here just wanted the color, would not try to cultivate them I got some unusual colors and thought I give em a try ! most are close to ground level now the weather seems to be going in my direction! 47 outside this morning !
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Paul Melching
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posted May 23, 2020 04:26 AM
Everything I am growing is in pot up off the ground on tables or plant stands anything on the ground will be eaten ! Except my Iris nothing eats them !
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Paul Melching
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posted May 23, 2020 06:10 AM
I have a full house propane system with floor vents throughout the house cant stand the noise ! I like the wood stove it heats well and the heat lasts unlike propane.
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Leonard
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posted May 23, 2020 08:14 AM
I'm starting to think that you have made a few improvements up there since I was there last? I assume you still have that canvas Quonset Hut? But now you speak in terms of "throughout the house"? What House?
Raised beds sound like the way to go with those resident rabbits under the house?
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted May 23, 2020 09:54 AM
I bought and installed a manufactured home 17 ft. by 72 ft. sitting on engineered pads. I put in complete solar and a 2500 gal water tank have my own pump house just like white folks ! I been busy , built a 9x29 quilting room for my wifes 14 ft. Gammill
Weeze just fancy up here in the sticks! Have not done a garage yet that's next not bad for a 70 year old geezer !
Inspector told me the cleanest installation he had ever seen in Ash Fork not sure if that a commentary on Ash Fork or a compliment
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Leonard
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posted May 23, 2020 01:57 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't know either, but I know what he meant! Codes are for the dudes down in the Valley.... right?
But, you sure did the smart thing. I hope the appraisers are kind on your property tax base improvements.
Like I said about my solar roof. You wouldn't believe what that did to my assessed evaluation!
Good hunting. El Bee
edit: about how far down is the water table? Is a well feasible?
edit: how did you come up with 17X72?
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Paul Melching
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posted May 24, 2020 03:39 AM
I did not come up with 17x 72 the mfgr. did it was as big as I cold get in a single wide don't want a double and the problems that come with that ! I am no geologist but have worked construction long enough to understand expansive soils .
How is the Faucchi flu treating everybody My life has changed not one bit except to stand in line at Costco!
Thanks Bill Gates !
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TRnCO
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posted May 24, 2020 05:58 AM
I've still been burning a fire too, most mornings. Mostly just because my wife works from home and her office space is in the basement and we all know it's always chilly in the basement. She loves the fire box, and honestly I'm like Paul, I prefer the silent heat from the fire compared to listening to the heater running.
Denver did set a new high record last week. But it was a one day flash in the pan. Back to normal, well, below normal today. We do have a chance for rain finally. Probably won't be enough to pull us out of the drought that we're slumping into. Fingers crossed for an inch of the wet stuff today.
I ran into work yesterday afternoon and the amount of traffic on the road tells me that most people decided that this weekend was a good time to get out. It was the boat, RV, travel show. Not sure where they all were heading, but they were heading out.
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Leonard
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posted May 24, 2020 08:45 AM
I know, and appreciate a fire, and I do have a fireplace that I don't use because it needs cleaning afterwards. If the forced air makes noise upstairs, I don't hear it?
However, for all the intrinsic benefits of a fireplace, we have to admit, the heating efficiency sucks, ever with one of those blower gadgets, it's still warming basically one room.
And, I'm not knocking it. Except for hauling wood, maybe? You go up to the National forest and most of that dead wood has been harvested close to the road and around these parts, you better not be blazing trails. Then too, burning pine and cedar, everybody know the more expensive hard woods can be difficult without a log lighter. I just think a fireplace, while nice, has a few drawbacks.
And, lastly, in this state, they have outlawed fireplaces! How Oprah Winfree gets away with six of them, I don't know?
My brother who lives in God's Country, in Olympia has many "NO BURN DAYS"! Due to the inversion layer. That's specific to their romantic potbellied stoves and comfort fireplaces.
They got ya, coming and going!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Paul Melching
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posted May 24, 2020 10:13 AM
When I lived in Mesa and we had no a burn day that's when a I had fire in the back yard just a bad person fuk em!
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Leonard
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posted May 24, 2020 12:58 PM
Wow! Thanks! Everybody here spends a lot of effort covering for your picadillos and you just let the cat out of the bag!
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Kokopelli
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posted May 24, 2020 02:39 PM
Now I know somebody who's picadillo is on the internet.
Not sure how I feel about that.
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Leonard
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posted May 24, 2020 04:33 PM
Play safe and deny knowing the kreep!
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Paul Melching
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posted May 25, 2020 04:22 AM
There is a huge difference between a fireplace and a wood stove fireplace all the heat goes up the chimney wood the heat stays in the room.
The heat that goes up the chimney heats thin wall pipe to radiate more heat. The EPA had a hand in the design surprisingly the are very efficient and smoke very little.
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Paul Melching
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posted May 25, 2020 04:24 AM
I almost feel like a communist I said something nice about the EPA! lol
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TRnCO
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posted May 25, 2020 06:18 AM
I'm lucky in that I get free hardwood, other than my labor and chainsaw gas, from my families farm in KS. I never go back home without a trailer behind the pickup to get a load of the good stuff. Since there's always good wood laying around from mostly the rebuilding of fence lines that get over grown with trees, it makes it worth my while.
Was 34 degrees here last night. Lots of rain, 2.15" in the gauge this a.m., and even had a little snow as well. I didn't keep the fire going all night, but I did stoke it before bedtime.
With this rain, we might have some green yet this summer.
I live at elevation where we don't have, "wood burning restrictions". What we do have at times are "no outside burning" restrictions due to dry conditions. We have an outdoor fire pit but we only use it once, maybe twice a year, usually do smores when we have the fire.
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Leonard
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posted May 25, 2020 08:17 AM
Sounds like you have the issue well covered!
edit: Yes Paul. I appreciate the difference and that's what I'm talking about. My traditional fireplace is not efficient, mostly decorative, comes in handy for hanging stockings at Christmas time.
Oh, and mine has my parent's Burl hanging over it. My wife put her foot down on a muledeer over the fireplace mantle!
Good hunting. El Bee
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Kokopelli
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posted May 25, 2020 09:05 AM
Burl ???
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