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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted September 24, 2019 07:33 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
The ENVIRONMENTAL MOVEMENT is becoming more dictatorial every day. They can't motivate you with their manipulated data, so they shame you with children who have been brainwashed their entire lives to believe the world will end in 12 years and even MORE ridiculous, the conviction that humans can alter the climate. This Swedish kid is never going to forgive us, if we don't save the world.

There are deep reasons behind this stuff and I'm not real sure what they want....ULTIMATELY, besides control?

Anyway, read about the "wonder kid" scolding adults that are neglecting her CRUSADE, here:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/how-greta-thunbergs-rise-could-backfire-on-en vironmentalists.html

edit: alternative theory with proof:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/09/toplevel_climate_modeler_goes_rogue_criticizes_nonsense_of_global_warming_crisis.html

[ September 24, 2019, 08:23 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted September 24, 2019 08:56 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Manipulating children that's what Hitler did !

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Icon 1 posted September 24, 2019 09:19 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
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This is amazing! How humans can be manipulated into believing CHICKEN LITTLE-THE SKY IS FALLING! They have NOTHING in the form of proof and this hysterical teenager with a talent for drama is lecturing grownups on issues she has been fed without sound, legitimate facts. It's hard to believe that people are this gullible!

But, they ARE! Shut down jet planes, kill cows, and worst of all with zero evidence, BAN PLASTIC STRAWS! Yeah, that's going to help. People are so stupid, I'm gobsmacked!

Good hunting. El Bee

[ September 24, 2019, 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Leonard ]

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Icon 1 posted September 24, 2019 09:32 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
MORE

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/greta-thunberg-climate-activist-united-nations/

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Icon 1 posted September 25, 2019 12:30 AM      Profile for NVWalt           Edit/Delete Post 
Like Paul said about Hitler and the Nazi's
manipulating the youth. The Hitler Youth movement was VERY effective in that sense and led to some of the most blood thirsty units the SS had during WWII. And they were very young and brainwashed just like our education system is doing today in America. And apparently around the world also.
Welcome to the Globalists New World Order!!!

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Icon 1 posted September 25, 2019 09:40 AM      Profile for Semp           Edit/Delete Post 
That 16 year old kid is emotionally and psychologically challenged. Her mother wrote a book about her. She has been diagnosed with asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective autism.

Here is a short synopsis:

Greta Thunberg book

And now she is lecturing the world on climate change. WTF?

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted September 25, 2019 12:34 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't have enough interest to look it up, but it sounds like the kid's parents have succeeded in fucking her up, and probably for a long time? Using a kid to advance a flimsy Global warming theory that is suspect and cannot be proved and they are so outrageously dishonest about the facts that it's laughable.

So, she has a mental condition and speaks with the pomposity of a Rhodes Scholar, mouthing the theme over and over; you know, HOW DARE YOU! A NAZI propaganda speech where she repeats it (lost count, 10-12 times?) which is intended to show how polished is her delivery. It's obvious that it was written by someone else with great care and studied DRAMA.

But, this is crazy time. CLIMATE CHANGE is a suspicion and a desire and has never been proved or adequately demonstrated. They have zero facts and they see every climate event as proof of the world ending in 12 years or at least by the year 2100, based on fabrications.

I have a girlfriend that was involved on one of the dating sites and she told me how amazed she was that so many men that she talked to have swallowed this "Climate Change" bullshit, hook, line and sinker. Fucking "Girly Men" worried about the earth and are determined to do something about it, starting with banning plastic straws! This shit is indoctrinated via brainwashing, no longer in question, it's beyond fact, it's a religion, based on faith. Therefore, needs no facts and happily, every event proves the theory....really meshes nicely, there's no negatives, it all fits!

The BIG LIE. Repeat it often enough and it becomes a well known fact. People are stupid, fucking drones! They will LITERALLY, believe anything!

But, the people behind this CLIMATE CHANGE don't believe it, they are using it for world domination. It's Yogie's 2 minute hate, all over again. As has been pointed out, even if it were true, IT'S A GOOD THING! Imagine a longer growing season to grow more crops? Imagine more CO2, the essential building block of life? Plants love it! Why are we worried about something we can't do anything about? It's all based on Solar Cycles, These Liberal Idiots are going to harness the Sun? Good luck with that!

Right now, maybe half of the people believe this shit. IT'S CACA!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Not even close to half thats what the complicit media would have you believe !

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Icon 1 posted September 26, 2019 06:28 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, that's right. I hear that the committed Liberals are only about 20% of the population, but they are motivated, and convinced that everybody must be forced to do it their way.

This is how you get one radical on a crusade to ban plastic bags or plastic straws, and the radicals jump on the bandwagon because anything that forces people to do something is a step in the right direction.

Naturally, the sheep all want to do what's right, and they have to be told what's right, then it's made mandatory to get the slackers in line.

I'm so damned sick of Liberal tactics I could spit! WE aught to round them up and put them in those cages they use for the poor children of illegal immigrants. Give them something to worry about. Make no mistake, it's a mental illness and they are dangerous!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted October 01, 2019 12:01 PM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Here's an article from a few months ago about this twisted sister. It gives you some background, on how she is coddled and allowed to dictate to adults and her parents.

Greta Thunberg Has No Patience For Democracy Or Your Lifestyle
How an intolerant teenage environmental scold now sailing to America is helping transform the left while attacking democracy and the global economy.
Jonathan S. TobinBy Jonathan S. Tobin
AUGUST 5, 2019
The heroine of the environmental movement is on her way. Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old Swedish celebrity protester, has finally figured out a way to bring her extremist message to the New World.

Thunberg, who has been the focus of adulatory coverage throughout Europe and in mainstream American outlets such as CNN, the New York Times, and a cover story in Time magazine, is a teenage sensation leading a movement of angry European children. Thunberg and her fans are demanding that their country’s governments act to stop global warming. What’s more, they are denouncing as sellouts even those who agree with their goal but are reluctant to adopt the extremist measures such as those Thunberg’s ally Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) put forward in the Green New Deal.

To promote her cause, Thunberg skipped school every Friday for the last year (she’ll be taking the 2019-20 school year off) and held a weekly vigil outside the Swedish Parliament in Stockholm. Reportedly, tens of thousands of fellow students have been following her lead to play hooky.

Thunberg’s notoriety is based not only on her activism but on the example she seeks to set by leaving no carbon footprint. Unlike her fellow tree-hugging celebrities, such as Britain’s Prince Harry, Leonardo DiCaprio, and former President Barack Obama, who all attended the so-called Google Camp event on the environment at a Sicilian resort and arrived there in 114 private jets (which will pump an estimated 784,000 kilograms of carbon into the atmosphere), Thunberg not only tries to avoid plastic wrappings on food, she also takes trains to climate change shindigs, where she lectures her elders on what they should do.

Faced with the problem of how to attend such events elsewhere on the planet, she joyously announced a solution on Twitter. She was, she said, able to attend a U.N. Climate Action Summit in New York this month and another such event in Santiago, Chile, in December with the help of the owners of a sleek 60-foot sailing boat. So, thanks to the Malizia II, a $10 million luxury racing yacht that a grandson of the late Princess Grace of Monaco will pilot, Thunberg will bring her brand of intolerant scolding to the shores of America in August.

Children Can Do No Wrong
Thunberg and her movement operate with some clear advantages. Since they are a children’s crusade, they are credited with the best possible motives and not asked to fully or coherently explain their goals or how they might be achieved without doing more harm than good. Their impatience with the business of democracy in which one must persuade people rather than merely issuing diktats is similarly depicted as evidence of their high ideals rather than ignorance or anti-democratic sentiments.

As for journalists who point out the flaws in these young people’s arguments, the inconsistency in their behavior, or ponder whether children should be skipping school to pursue a political agenda, progressives denounce them as bullies picking on nice kids. Politicians who have the temerity to push back even mildly against the lack of respect and common courtesy that Thunberg and her followers consistently demonstrate must expect a tidal wave of criticism for their so-called insensitivity.

Anyone who doubts this needs only to think back to what happened when Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) had heard enough from a group of teenagers who lectured her about what she should do and the viral video that came out of their exchange last February, in which she attempted to teach them how democracy works.

Environmental Extremists Created Greta Thunberg
The behavior of Thunberg and the kids she has helped inspire is an understandable product of the apocalyptic rhetoric of environmental extremists. Thunberg’s extremism is a direct result of the tactics of environmentalists who realized they got more attention with wild predictions of planetary doom only loosely tethered to reality than more measured discussions about the climate.

No one should be surprised that children are behaving in this way when extremists are teaching them that the world is basically coming to an end and that we’re all going to fry as a punishment for the sin of benefiting from the prosperity the Industrial Revolution and capitalism created.

Many Americans mocked Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal plans. But Thunberg and her fans see it as a messianic blueprint to save humanity that must take priority over a lowered standard of living for humanity, economic development, individual rights, and the basics of democracy. Rather than being shocked at the children’s willingness to ride roughshod over even those who share their worries about the climate but don’t wish to get rid of modern conveniences that make everyone’s lives better, save lives, and create prosperity, onlookers cheer these children as righteous crusaders for a noble cause.

Devastating Personal Troubles
As a revealing profile in the New York Times published in February made clear, Thunberg’s personal story is not a happy one. The daughter of an opera star and an actor, she was a bright student but fell victim to the pressures of adolescence and bullying at school.

At the age of 11, she “had fallen into a deep funk. She stopped going to school. She stopped eating. She stopped growing. She spoke only to family, and, at school, only to one teacher.” According to her own account at a Stockholm Tedx talk, she was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive-compulsive disorder, and selective mutism. Thankfully, she eventually pulled herself out of this depression by focusing on her worries about the climate.

She now says that “being on the spectrum” of autism is an advantage because it allows her to see the world as a place where “almost everything is black and white.” Making it clear that her activism is a form of life-saving therapy, she has told The Guardian, “I feel like I’m dying inside if I don’t protest.”

While Thunberg’s achievement in surviving her devastating personal troubles is to be applauded, it has bred in her an absolutist attitude that is far from attractive. She bullied her mother to give up her career because it involved air travel, and forced her parents to adopt a vegan diet although she publicly complains that her mother sometimes sneaks cheese into the house for late-night snacks.

Thunberg, who, as the Times noted, doesn’t smile much, is happier now that advocacy on the climate has given her life meaning, but her primary means of communication is lecturing. Like the kids who told off Feinstein, Thunberg has no patience for any discussion about the havoc that might ensue if her absolutist views were enacted. Nor did she seem to bother much with trying to persuade her listeners when she stood vigil during her weekly truancy sessions, dubbed “Fridays for the Future,” which other kids on the continent began to emulate.

A Love-Hate Relationship with the Left
The same is true even when interviewers fawn all over her, such as the time Fareed Zakaria on CNN treated her as a role model rather than an angry teenager armed with only a rudimentary understanding of science and none of economics and democracy. Her politics appears to be a matter of people listening to her and then doing as she says.

But not all environmentalists are thrilled with her celebrity. Many understandably see her emphasis on personal behavior and people giving up meat, cheese, plastic, and air travel as bound to undermine their cause. They want the sole focus to be on governments, not the forlorn hope that people living in the 21st century will be content to live like they are in the 19th because Thunberg tells them it will save the planet.

But it’s likely these concerns will be forgotten in the collective mainstream media swoon for Thunberg when she sails into New York sometime later this month and lectures Americans to ditch their comforts in order to be counted among the righteous. However, it would be a mistake to focus the discussion about her activities on whether she’s wrong about the imminent doom of the planet if we don’t stop eating cows and using airplanes.

Few are noting the children’s profound hostility to the democratic process, something that necessitates treating opposing views with respect and bothering to answer criticisms. It’s not just that Thunberg is helping to distort the debate about the climate, but that the spirit of her activism is indicative of the way the left treats discussion of any issue, whether it is health care, guns, or taxes.

Greta Thunberg’s liberal cheerleaders fail to see that validating an approach that sees the only way to achieve objectives as shaming and silencing opponents does more long-term damage to democracy than anything their political opponents do.

Jonathan S. Tobin is editor in chief of JNS.org and a contributing writer for National Review.

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Icon 1 posted October 01, 2019 01:01 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
My suggestion to the Greenies that I've run into is that if you really want to reduce your carbon footprint, shut off your air conditioner.
Usually doesn't take too long for the excuses to start and the explanation that that wouldn't work.

Buncha friggin' hippy-o-crits.

[ October 01, 2019, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Kokopelli ]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2019 07:17 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Umm, ko ko....think about it. Your suggestion would make most of the central part of Arizona uninhabitable. You can't exist in that state without at least a swamp cooler!

Now, for me, I've always been able to tolerate the high temperatures. But my wife, absolutely rebelled at the thought of living anywhere in the central Phoenix valley. I could try the local solutions, plan your activities around avoiding the heat of the day....NO DICE!

You know, some people just can't handle climate extremes. Nancy would get all splotchy in her lower legs every time we visited a humid, tropical climate. She was prescribed some kind of water pills to take before, during, and after visiting those paradise destinations.

It's just like me. I friggin' hate cold climates. Trust me, I know Minnesota winters, growing up. Fuck that! Everybody's different. But, look at how people are swarming to Florida. The tradeoff is bugs, insects, humidity. At least AZ has that dry heat, at least for the most part.

And, there is the conundrum. I have yet to decide that perfect location, but Dove Mountain keeps my interest, about 20 miles northish of Tucson, it's a beautiful area and maybe ten degrees cooler, on average, than Phoenix....which is still HOT, no getting around that fact.

I don't know, I'm really running out of time? The idea of dying, as a resident of this fucked up state is tragic, I've waited so long that I need my ass kicked! If I could afford a second home, that might find me some peace and contentment? Maybe I just don't have the balls to forge full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes, take no prisoners!

That Real Estate outfit that sent me info on a few properties in Safford, none of which set my heart aflutter. There must be a cute, modest little house somewhere with my name on it?

I know, y'all are tired of hearing about my bullshit.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2019 10:29 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't say that I was going to shut off MY air ……. I just suggest that they shut off THEIR'S !!! [Big Grin]

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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2019 10:51 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, one of the very questionable situations in AZ is the cost of energy. I'm surprised that residents put up with the electricity rates? I have heard that some people are looking at $600 a month electric bills. Around here, for an average size home, I think it's more like $150 per month.

And, I hear water ain't cheap, either? My cousin used to get up in the middle of the night to flood her lawn on a specific schedule. She would open a valve and it might take an hour to fill her sunken yard with about 6 inches of the Salt River Project's water. What I don't remember was the schedule, be it weekly or monthly? Kinda cool though, and very reasonable. And, I think those lucky people that have the service are quite satisfied with it even considering that they have to do it at all hours of the night. I don't even know if it's well known, I certainly don't hear much about it?

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted October 02, 2019 12:17 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, energy can be a factor, but it's not all that bad.
For a few months, the air's gonna run a lot.
A few other months, not so much; mostly afternoons.
Once in a while, a fire in the woodstove in the morning and air in the afternoon.
Then a few months of woodstove / fireplace enjoyment.

Bear in mind if you buy over this way; Not all air conditioner units are created equal. Older units are going to cost more to operate. Adds up over time.

As far as water; if one landscapes Amazon Rainforest, they're going to pump a lot of water. I live in the desert. I landscape with cacti, agave and such...….. and I'm on a well.

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Leonard have you thought
about Camp Verde or Cottonwood?

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Icon 1 posted October 04, 2019 05:55 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
You know, Paul. I had a bone scan yesterday, for my osteoporosis and it's been like that with treatments and tests and I want to get down that way, but I'm a little too committed, right now. I've been around Cottonwood and passed by Camp Verde, in the past because my brother in law is in Sedona. As you might remember, I tried to make that campout in January but had to turn around in Phoenix and was back home before the sun came up. The girl at the counter gave me one look and didn't charge me for the coffee I needed for fortification, bless her heart!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Speaking of a camp-out ………………………………………………. ?????

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Hey KOKO I received a bill from my solar panels the balance due was o.oo !

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Yes Koko, when and where is this campout you speak of? I am saving a day or two to come back to AZ this winter.
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Paul;
Good !! Now you can invest in sugar. From what I can see, you're going to need it when these humming birds head back north.

Dustin;
Not sure; ……… Who all's in ???

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Icon 1 posted October 04, 2019 09:19 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I've held my tongue, (wow, that's not like me?) for some time about Huntmaster's campouts. I think it's a noble idea to get together and get to know these people in other states that we only know via the Internet.

My personal Waterloo occurred a few years back when our discussions were being finalized and we were seeking commitments and conformations. That was when our very esteemed member, DAA suddenly backed out, in a limited field, for personal reasons that superseded his previous intentions. At that point, since he had been dangling the possibility for several years on attendance, I just said; fuck it, if nobody cares, why am I wasting my time?

And, yeah, I know how it looks at this point because it seems like somebody has decided to pass judgement on my actions, and I had the distinct odor of a kiss off and, without being stated, exactly, and after a probably 20 year relationship. Of course, the place ain't the same without him, everybody knows that, as with Fred making it a double whammy. Of course, I could be wrong?

Anyway, I still support the idea and concept of a campout. I feel a strong sense of commitment, even though I had to abort this last ronde for significant reasons. What I'm saying is, say what you mean and mean what you say. Nobody will twist your arm, but if you want to travel and meet these people that we have a relationship with and we are compadres and we think alike and share the same experiences with, then I guess it's a good thing and has value. But, if you treat it as nothing, that affects the others as well and then we have a bunch of non answers: "yeah, whatever, that place is ok and that week is ok and whatever y'all want to do, etc. etc."

So, if our members really want to do this, or just a few loyal people take the trouble to get involved in discussion and planning and committing to the event, then great. Once I see any level of interest, I'm also interested but it's not for my own benefit, it's for the rest of you that I have an affection for and would love to get together and swap lies and spit in the fire.

What it is, is kinda late to be talking about it but not impossible if we really want to do it. And, it's not a BFD, either. But, that's kinda where I stand, we would need positive concrete input, not vague "yeah, whatevers"

In what particular order, location, dates and other minor details, I don't know? Maybe agreeing in theory should come first? But, damn, this is October already, this could be setting us up for a pretty cold January, if not later?

Anyway thoughts?

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Ok …………………………… True & true enough that last year's 'campout' was not overly attended. However; those of us that were there had a pretty good time and we reduced a fair amount of firewood (Thanx TedO) to ashes. Between the storm forecast for Sunday and Ariel's truck malfunction we agreed to cut it short.
Sometimes poo-poo just occurs.

So...……….. I'm looking at the first week-end in Dec. Fri.-Sat.-Sun. 6th, 7th & 8th.
Same place as last year.

Comments ?? …………. Yae or Nay ????

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