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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted August 26, 2019 05:59 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
The coyotes are very vocal I have not noticed this in years past this is the time the young males of this year are pushed out to find their own way and the young females are retained to help with the raising of next seasons young. is any one else seeing this they go off every evening and every morning and not just a little they are really going at it ! Maybe something going on here I'm not aware of .

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted August 26, 2019 06:16 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
Well shit! If you don't know, nobody does?

But yeah, we get a version here, late summer with what we like to call: "Neighborhood Cat Patrol"

Could be broad daylight, even. One 'yote skims along the yards on one side of the street until he flushes a kitty that immediately runs across the street and straight into the jaws of his partner working the other side and at this point they pull the kitty apart and wolf in down, sometimes sawing off the lower legs and maybe the head. And it doesn't take long, if they fight over it, there might be some residual intestine left in the yard. Mostly late at night but when returning in the morning, they are still hunting. And, bold as hell!

Good hunting. El Bee

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Brent Parker
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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 07:18 AM      Profile for Brent Parker   Email Brent Parker         Edit/Delete Post 
Seems a little early for the fall dispersal. I would think more October early November.
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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 07:24 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Seems like this is an odd year.
Rain cycle is seriously messed up.
Saw two different does with twin spotted fawns this week up on the Rim. Really young spotted fawns, no less.
Cactus tunas are really late also.
Crazy. [Eek!]

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 09:08 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
What the fuk is a cactus tunas?

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Kokopelli
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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 09:38 AM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
Prickly pear cactus fruit.

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Leonard
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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 11:38 AM      Profile for Leonard   Author's Homepage   Email Leonard         Edit/Delete Post 
TY

I have a few varieties of cactus fruit that are very tasty. I don't even know the name of the one I like best? It eats like a semi sweet and crunchy white parfait with tiny black seeds. When they ferment, the birds get drunk on them.

Good hunting. El Bee

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Icon 1 posted August 27, 2019 12:21 PM      Profile for Kokopelli   Author's Homepage           Edit/Delete Post 
That would explain the chipmonk I saw chasing a cat yesterday. (Didn't end well.) [Smile]

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Leonard
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....and you let it happen> You sick hater!

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earthwalker
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Icon 1 posted August 29, 2019 04:02 PM      Profile for earthwalker           Edit/Delete Post 
Too early for dispersal.
Our does have a lot of young ones by there side up here, too.
I'll take the coyotes over damn cats and poodles.
Pups are just being lippy.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted September 03, 2019 10:31 AM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Coons are in the midst of dispersal here. Everywhere on every highway DRT.

Coyotes here disperse right about the third week of October, like clockwork. They are very vocal these days and I'm starting to get calls from farmers to come and thin them out as, as usual, the pups are earning their stripes by taking the low hanging fruit and killing farm cats and poultry. Went out Sunday morning in pea soup fog for one such call. Called two. One appeared skylined on a terrace and didn't offer a safe shot. The other burst out of the soup in front of us and was gone just as quick.

Our best honey-hole - the "Morgue" - won't be as good this year as the feedlot next to it is in the process of selling out. No cattle. That said, Kevin drove through on the access road a week ago and saw an adult and four pups. Said all four pups were only about a foot tall at the shoulders - very small for this time of year. Several other farmers cite this year as more coyotes than they've ever seen. Record rainfall in August - most ever - means lots of vegetation > lots of seeds > lots of rodents > lots of coyote food. The downside is lots of vegetation means that all that cover will make it hard to see them in the grass. Add to that the fact that all the fields have standing water in them, beneath all the milo, corn and soybeans, which means crops won't be cut early by any means. It'll be a crap shoot. Had guys cutting milo on frozen ground back on New Year's Day last year, so it ain't looking any better as far as that goes. Multiple floods have pushed deer and everything else out of the low country which has everything jacked up everywhere.

Quite a few of my tracts have sold or will be sold in the next few weeks so that creates quite a few ???'s for this season, and I went to a funeral this morning for one of my favorite landowners this morning who committed suicide this past week. Knowing how hard it is to be a farmer these days makes it even more important and rewarding that I'm able to offer them some help with coyotes so they have one less thing to worry about.

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Paul Melching
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Icon 1 posted September 04, 2019 02:40 AM      Profile for Paul Melching           Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you all for yur input I could not figure it out they are very vocal. Much more than usual.

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Brent Parker
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Icon 1 posted September 11, 2019 07:05 AM      Profile for Brent Parker   Email Brent Parker         Edit/Delete Post 
Paul,

Only my opinion they are the equivalent of 13-15 yr old boys growing a set. Challenge everybody, first sign of real trouble they run for mom and dad. This is the time of year they come up to the house and mess with my dogs. I give them a pass for a while. Once we have had a enough Ill shoot a few. Happens every year around this time. Normally could tie dispersal back home close to the first good hard frost seemed to get them moving.

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Cdog911
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Icon 1 posted September 14, 2019 11:24 AM      Profile for Cdog911   Author's Homepage   Email Cdog911         Edit/Delete Post 
Been thinking on this the past few days. I'm hearing reports of a lot more noise hereabouts, too. I've also been getting a lot more reports of young of the year coyotes, too. I've always used howling as an index to indicate relative changes in densities. Stands to reason that the more coyotes there are, the more the need to maintain spatial distribution between family groups and that's most often done through vocalizing. At the other end of the scale, fewer coyotes means less need to sound off since the chances of overlapping territories is low.

The higher number of young can be attributed to at least two different variables where I live. Coyote prices are very good right now and have been, so harvest pressure has been high leading to larger voids to fill with new pups. Add in the fact that we have had an abundance of precip last fall which kept us out of many hunting areas, followed by a record setting rainy spring and summer which produced phenomenal cover and bugs, all of which mean higher pup survival, and I'm betting a HUGE percentage of our pop'n this year is pups. and mouthy pups, at that.

One landowner told me he might see one or two groups of pups each spring, total. This year, he said he flushed pups from every field he worked the past month or so. Yesterday, another told me they had resident packs that had been vocal every night for a month on three different sides of their house.

[ September 14, 2019, 11:30 AM: Message edited by: Cdog911 ]

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