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Possumal
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posted August 08, 2010 08:09 AM
IMO, BOGgear is making the best shooting sticks available today, and their new model shows just how innovative their company is. BOGgear LLC announced the official release of its brand new BOG-POD tripod, the CLD-3S. The CLD-3S (Camo Legged Devil Short Tripod) is the compact version of BOGgear's already very popular, full-sized camo tripod, the CLD-3. With all the same great features of the CLD Series, the CLD-3S is a shorter and lighter model that is perfect for carrying when size and weight really matter, yet is still rock solid, reliable, and ideal for almost any shooting need.
Here is a link for you to take a look: http://www.boggear.com/cld_shooting_sticks.html
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posted August 08, 2010 10:21 AM
Good looking unit, but just a wee bit heavy of coin.
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posted August 08, 2010 11:09 AM
I much prefer the "Clod-Pod", thats my two elbows, propped securely on my two knees; has worked wonderfully for well over 30 years, and not wore out yet!
Seriously; I gave sticks a fair shot for two seasons, and found they just don't fit my style of hunting/shooting, I missed coyotes I should hav easily had shooting freehand. I tote them along in the truck, but only for the very wide open stand, that might offer the rare longshot or two I make each winter. For normal stands in my terrain, elbows on knees work just fine.
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posted August 08, 2010 03:31 PM
Those look like a downsized version of my Bogen 3021 camera tripods... very versatile and adjustable set up.
I wrote to Bogen/Manfrotto several years ago regarding a smaller tripod with those features but never got a reply! Guess I should have stayed after them!
I like being able to swivel and shoot and have my gun at eye level ready when calling.
Especially when using hand calls, which is most of the time for me. It also allows me to put my hands in a pocket occasionally to stay warm when it's below zero! I agree the price is a little steep but probably a one time investment.
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posted August 08, 2010 03:34 PM
Nice sticks , wee bit koko ? thats outrageously expensive! I used clod pods for years (still would if I could)till I found I couldnt sit on the ground anymore and needed a stool then went to stoney point detachables on a tip from Lenbo just add a mount to each rifle at the sling stud and havent looked back.It took a little getting used to.Think I paid around $34.00 for my first set 4 years ago still using them. They swivel and adjust easily and they are light.I,ve left them in the field a few times but that $34.00 bucks get you right back to em everytime.kinda like a tight ass gps
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posted August 08, 2010 06:31 PM
Yeah, way too expensive, and in my opinion, too much crap to move around on stand. I use a regular set of stoney point shooting sticks, and they can sometimes tangle up in grass and debree when moving around to get on a coyote. I would think the bulky tripod system would complicate matters. I understand Vics theory, but sitting on your ass in our taller grass creates visibility problems. I prefer a short stool with my rifle on sticks,bent forward at the waste and my elbows on my knees. To me that is rock steady. I can easily pick my sticks up and rotate 90deg in both directions with little unnecessary movement and noise, and be quickly locked down ready to shoot.
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posted August 08, 2010 07:27 PM
Less is best. Those are way too bulky to be of much use to me. I just cannot shoot offhand worth a damn anymore - like I ever could. LOL But my sticks will go to a tripod and I have yet to see any benefit from that. In fact, the couple times I did deploy the third leg, I was unable to reposition and it cost me a shot. With just two spindly legs, I can get around pretty well. Combine that with the fact that I can make a set of sticks that work just dandy for less than ten dollars and work just as well if not better, I guess that explains why I don't get a lot of freebies in the mail. LOL It has to be functional before I have any use for it. Two 30-inch lengths of 5/16 stainless rod, a couple flat washers, bolt, nut and a 12-inch length of 5/16 fuel lineand a welder and you're good to go. KISS.
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posted August 08, 2010 08:39 PM
I agree, the tripod is too much to carry and too expensive.
But I don't like the stoney point sticks either after getting them stuck in the mud and then trying to reposition them on a coyote, they came apart and were useless.
I went to a stony point mono pod, it isn't as stable but is easier to reposition and is stable enough.
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posted August 09, 2010 04:50 AM
At the recommendation of some fine fellers on here, I purchased a couple pair of Vern Howie sticks a couple years back. They have worked great. No complaints, other than something else to carry.
At the recommendation of a big time coyote killer on here, I bought a backpack last weekend to carry my new call in, and it will hold a rifle, shotgun or bow, and there is a place for sticks. It will be nice to carrry everything I need easily and not have my hands tied up. Damn thing even has a deal to carry 2 liters of water and a hose to drink out of. That may come in handy on some long days and long walks. Kinda nice to know I can take a rifle and shotgun to the stand if I want to. If me and my boy are hunting together, he normally carries a rifle and I carry a shotgun for charger. I was taught that way years ago. Now I can do it on my own just like Les Johnson. ![[Cool]](cool.gif) ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted August 09, 2010 05:46 AM
What pack did you get Andy?
I've looked at Eberlestock, Mystery ranch and Kifaru. Bought a MR Crew cab but sent it back as it wasn't what I wanted. Always looking for a good pack.
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posted August 09, 2010 06:16 AM
This particular model is more expensive than their other models, no doubt due to it being harder to build. It allows you to shoot in any position from prone to kneeling. The cradle pivots 360 degrees which keeps you from having to reposition the sticks if a shot presents itself at a different angle. Very compact and light but strong. Like other hunting accessories, it won't be for everybody.
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posted August 09, 2010 06:27 AM
Tom, its a Cabelas brand, Bow and Rifle pack. Comes with hydration system, like I said. Big enough to carry my crossbow too.
It has one part of the pack, where you take it apart to put your gun in, that you can use as a fanny pack if you want. Pretty kewl pack. It has great padding and straps. The frame itself is firm enough to keep it from swinging around and yet light.
They had two models, one was scent lock and one wasnt. I went without. I dont really believe in that stuff. And, I went with Realtree so it will match my call and camo.
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posted August 09, 2010 06:32 AM
Tom, I forgot to say that you take a couple of straps loose, it basically comes in half and you velcro your gun or bow inside. Also, there is a piece that is adjustable that drops down out of a pouch at the bottom that will hold your gun butt, or bow, or gun barrel if its rainin and you want it upside down, then you fold it back over and cinch it down.
Besides the camo, it has a hunters orange strap that is the length of the pack in a pouch you can pull at the bottom and attach at top if need be.
Pretty Kewl. Ive never had or used anything like that. Ive always either used a simple fanny pack, or just stuffed my pockets. I think Im going to like this in certain situations. I know for a fact there have been some deer hunts and elk hunts I would have given a nut for something like this.
See how it works for calling. Im sure I wont use it every time I go calling, but when walking a long way or wanting two guns, it will be handy.
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posted August 12, 2010 12:20 PM
Andy I totally agree. The Howey sticks are by far the best I've used.
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posted August 12, 2010 01:16 PM
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posted August 12, 2010 02:01 PM
Those look good, Paul, but how durable is the top end where it snaps onto the sling stud? How much range of motion do you get, and how does it stay tight and still allow you to reposition? Unless there's a top cap that stays snug and has a pivot or swivel point between the top cap and the crotch where the legs attach, I'd think those would wear out pretty fast the way I hunt.
I have grown fond of my Sniper Styx from Brent Rueb along with the 9-13 Harris on my rifle which allows me to shoot from a seated position, or drop the legs on the pods to go prone when low cover allows it and don't see the need to change much. I just drop the pod legs, nestle the rifle in the sticks and, if the need arises, I can roll forward to prone off my butt pad allowing the sticks to support the rifle to the ground and onto the already-deployed pod legs. Have done that several times and it works quite well.
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posted August 12, 2010 03:17 PM
They actually work very well and have proven to be quite durable although the rubber at the top may not hold up as well in frezeing weather. i have heard some complaints from people in cold climates about the durability but for me they have been good and held up well . took a little time to get used to. I have used the sniper sticks as well they are a fine product with the exception of the arrowhwad inserts on the bottom ,the field points come loose and lost a little loctite would cure that.
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posted August 12, 2010 03:33 PM
I agree. What we did was unscrew the field points and loctite them back in after placing a washer around the post to keep them from sinking into soft soil and sand.
I have always been a fan of the Howey sticks and may just order a set of them.
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posted August 12, 2010 04:07 PM
MF! I did a indepth review and lost the damned thing with a careless keystroke.
Anyway, the unique thing about the stony point is the swivel attachment which is accomplished via a groove and detent ring and a spring loaded ballbearing. It stays put very well and allows complete direction sideways, and the rubber yoke allows you to tilt it for any sort of angle required. But the nice thing is, nothing comes apart as with a cradle, it doesn't even slide forward or back. It's on there and there is no slipping, at all. In other words, it's steady, yet maneuverable.
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posted August 12, 2010 05:21 PM
Pussies....can't even make a simple 40 yard shot without a gawd damned portable benchrest; you old fuckers are showin' yer age!---Wink---- ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted August 12, 2010 05:49 PM
Gee thanks Vic , I was already feeling little depressed about my age and infirmities you just finished it off! Think I'll go out back and bury myself.
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posted August 12, 2010 06:57 PM
To finish up.....
The legs telescope, evenly or unevenly, just twist and there is some sort of eccentric inside that locks whereever you want it. In relation to the predator styxs, which I have and have used quite a bit, the stoney points are not whippy, at all.
You have to dedicate a rifle to this set up. I notice that now they $ell the stud part that attaches to the rifle separately. Therefore, you can use the sticks on any number of rifles, once you install the stud attachment.
These sticks work more like a Harris bipod rather than regular crossed shooting sticks, which you have to hold on to or everything will/can fall over. The difference is, you have to carry them separately because they do not transport well attached to the rifle.
Anyway, I like them. They are much lighter than a Harris bipod and they are long enough to use while sitting on a stool. As far as I have been able to discover, Harris bipods work sitting on the ground, or prone, (depending on model) but they are not tall enough to use while sitting on a short stool.
Good hunting. LB
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posted August 13, 2010 09:20 AM
I can't consistently make a 40 yarder anymore even with my portable benchrest. I've been using the Verne Howey sticks for years though and it would be hard to get me to switch. Leonard makes a good argument for the Stoney Point though!
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posted August 13, 2010 11:11 AM
Thanks, Dave.
I really like the stoney points, if you notice?
I think if people actually looked at them, set up, they would appreciate them a lot more because the features are hard to explain, and you can't tell a damned thing by looking at a picture.
But, plugging them in and setting it up and then taking it down should convince a lot of people; people that figure it is one of many, with similiar features. But, that figuring would be incorrect.
Good hunting. LB
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posted August 13, 2010 11:58 AM
LB,
I had the Rapid Pivot system on three rifles, and unfortunately sold them and all of the hardware in favor of Sniper Sticks.
I regret doing it to this day. What I liked about that system was that I could put the hardware on as many different rifles as I wanted and just grab the legs, the rifle I wanted to use that day, and go.
This discussion has made me realize how handy they were!
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